Scores killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza

Don't buy an iota of it. This is Israeli psyops and very clumsy too. All they did is produce a bunch of 3D graphics, spin it around and tell what to see. What was the point of the 60 minutes programme at the head of the lies?

The first lie was the Palestinian police man getting shot. He moved pretty fast and landed flat without breaking his fall.

Go to 3:05 on the Youtube video and see the dust kicking up with the bullets flying in front of the ambulance. The narrator said there were no bullets. Kind of explains why the police man was dragged and bundled into the ambulance.

The rest of the video narration was about the mayhem and he tells you what to see. He comments about a man sheltering by the kerb and suggests that he is playing dead. I would do the same if bullets were flying about down the road from unknown directions.

What about the Palestinian shooting into the room from the outside? Perhaps he was shooting through it to the other side. Full metal jackets AK 47 bullets can go through breeze blocks. Maybe he was shooting through a window on the other side. How do we know, but I know the narrator was not there otherwise he would have been shot by the Palestinians.

Pallywood is a zionist invention.


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I found this today, and it is a telling story of how the criminal acts of Israel have affected Palestinian Christians (as well as all civilians in Palestine):

www.kawther.info...

(The author of this diary is Kawther Salam, a Palestinian, who fled to Vienna, Austria, where she currently lives a refugee.)

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I do not side with Israelis, Palestinians or Zionists.

I can not be swayed to "pick" a side and therefore try to remain impartial.

Al these posts are food for thought...that is a good thing

A sad, sick and sorry state of affairs for all.


respectfully,
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Anytime you wish to discuss History, feel free, what would you care to talk about?

I think others have answered your questions in that thread. Since the Jews are descendants of Abraham, perhaps Israel should be in the region that Abraham originally inhabitated? Now where would that be.......? Almost every nation on earth has carved their existence out by killing/displacing/assimilating other inhabitants of the region. Why pick out the Jews and the Palestinians? Perhaps the Arabs should give back Algeria, Morroco, Libya ect to the North Africans, if you want to use that train of thought. The vast majority of Americans better head back to their homelands....where they will displace the current reisidents.




What convulated logic, even a tinge of Sterotyping. So the Visigoths =Spainards, The Franks are the equivelent of the Modern French and the Germans= The Teutonic Knights and the Imperial Roman Empire= Italy. Just absurd.

Sure they did, every link they offer comes from a bias source.

Yes so let the zionist kill the Palestinians and take the land, bravo.
Not stating that the jews were not around long ago there also, but that you just can not push people from their land with force and not expect that they fight with whatever they have at their disposal.
Israel is the problem, it's causing problems.No Israel=no more problems.
The jews and the palestinians can create a state after the fall of the old one.Where you have mixed police, military and goverment.You can't create 2 states since inhabitants jews and palestinians alike are all over the place and lay claim to the land.Israel as a state will never have peace.
It was designed by some for this very good reason.


Yes and they take their heritage with honor and pride because they know what they are.



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Habitual, aren't you? As a zionist you disassociate the Palestinians from their land, history and their Semitism. Now you wish to disassociate the Germans, Spanish, Persians, and Italians from their proud and illustrious histories.

Yet in the midst of this denial of people's ancestral heritage, you probably peddle the hoax that the Askenazim are Semites on the strength of parts of ancient mitochondrial DNA. You go back far enough you'll probably lay claim to the continent of Africa.

We know that zionists are an effusive lot of atheist fanatics swallowing everything you want including falafels. Apparently falafels are Israel's number 1 national dish dragged over from the Steppes of Russia and all the way to the Promised Land.

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This has been in the making for a long time. Go get em'. Obama will be challenged in the first hours of his term.

will obama do the `right` thing in the name of the Christian heavenly father?? and send in the Marines to seperate BOTH sides and put his foot down and say ENOUGH to BOTH sides?


or will be be cowed by the heathen Israelies and do nothing?

you know this is what happens when terrorist organisations are allowed to run countries,(i don't think i would like 80 rockets a day being fired at my town), didn't people actually vote these terrorists into power, I feel sorry for those who have lost people in this but maybe they should choose their leaders more carefully, I do realize that terrorists do kind of put themselves in charge, they are like a disease, lets face it there's always going to be someone with an axe to grind, a reason to shoot or bomb someone or something, they have only their own interests at heart, selfish bullies and cowards.

Palestinians would be smart to embrace Israel, and the technological abilities they bring to the Middle East. This tit for tat game is soley a losing proposition for Palestine. Maybe this time, they will wipe out Hamas, and end the hostilities once and for all. That would be a good thing.

Well, maybe, and maybe not!

1) There was a huge difference in the polls before the election and what the results were! Were people just lying about who they were going to vote for before the elections?

2) There was also a HUGE difference in what the exit polls (poll taken of who people voted for after they voted) and the results of the elections were!Were people AGAIN just lying to the pollsters about who they voted for?

Were The Palestinian Election Results Falsified In Favor Of Hamas?



Don't know why people would lie about who they voted for at the election polls AFTER they voted, but MAYBE a whole lot of people did!

So,according to polls and statistics, ...



So, there are some people who do believe that all is not what it seems when it comes to Hamas winning the election.

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Obama will do what he's always done. He'll vote PRESENT.

There will never be peace in the ME, Hamas yes they may be an extremest group, but you have to understant that the Israelis were like that before and did that too.Hamas dies another group is boren and so on.
The region never knew peace and it never will , not that I insist upon it but the state of Israel will never have peace.They have to learn to live with each other and that can only work in a mixed inviorment, the two state solution will never work.

I really do wish for peace in this region of the world. Let's stop blaming and trying to incite hatred toward either side; all it does is create more pain.

I think the best course of action is for the IDF to stop its military operation in that area, remove blockades from the area and allow UN peacekeeper forces to control Gaza. Besides killing many civilians (whether intentional or not), Israel is REALLY hurting its image in the international community, much more so than they seem to realise.

Am I defending Hamas militants for firing rockets? Not at all. It's just the civilian death toll is much higher on the Palestinian side - regardless of if Hamas militants hide behind normal people or not, the civilian toll just seems way too high for attacks that are meant to specifically target militants.

Israel: Welcome in UN peacekeeprs and allow them to control the area. Any further actions of aggression is only going to cause more trouble for your own interests and those of innocent civilians.

Hamas militants: Stop the rockets! They are not helping you in ANY way, seriously. If you really care about your family and loved ones, you will agree to a ceasefire and allow UN troops to control the area. Like Israel's military actions, these rocket attacks are severely weakening your chances to achieve peace!

Look im no expert i just think this might be a logical approach to somewhat resolve this horrible situation. Once again, blaming and antagonising will not lead to any positives for either Israelis or Palestinians...

THE ONLY HEATHEN Are the Hamas terrorist who target civilians with sucide bombers, rockets and mortars.

They want sympathy because they stated a war they are losing.

It is about time the world said enough and no longer tolerated these terrorist animals and their murdering ways.

They are the sole cause of death for both sides civillians.

tHE uN HAS ALREAdy proven they cannot or will not do their job.

They allowed Hezbolla terrorits to setup and fire rockets from their postion-useless.

There is absolutly no reason for Israel to stop while Hamas continues to attack.

iF THE Hamas cared anything about it's people, it would not bring death and distruction on them.

Yes, you adnmit they hide behind civillians, sick animals.

The only way to stop this is for the Hamas to be stopped and prevented from attacking, again.

No one has ever gone into Gaza with the idea of stopping the Hamas attacks.

If somone does go in, what will they do when Hamas again attacks from their post????

If Obama has any good sense, he'll keep his nose out of it. In the process, he might actually earn a shred of my respect.

The biggest mistake that the US has made since the end of WW2 has been attempting to act as the world's policeman. We do not need to be involved in this any more than we already are. It is not our fight and 15 minutes after US troops are withdrawn, they'll just start fighting again...IF they ever stopped. They're hell bent on killing each other and always have been.

Besides, US troops would be perceived as favoring the Israelis. You and I both know that.

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I'm sick of the war!

And I'm ashamed of my fellow ATS members.