Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by masonwatcher


A dull analysis of the situation. The conflict is not about God but a struggle for self determination. Unless you take a more learned approach to the Israeli problem and the geopolitical dynamics, kindly keep you limited comments to yourself. It is a waste of space on this thread.

Thought police your not.
This always boils down to some old guy on either side stirring the pot of hate and resentment and young people die!

They always die.

You can try and hide behind the old and tired view of an eye for an eye.
But I like many who have watched this situation go on now for over 40 years get tired of this old news

Both sides are acting like children. Color it any color you want it's still Imature and People die!

More cliched and useless commentary. This is evidence of a dismissive mind when there is too much information.

OK if that is the points you are making but you will have to back up your opinions. Can you kindly refer to any facts concerning the God aspect of this current assault on Gaza? Also who are these 'old men' fomenting hate and how are they achieving their ambitions?

Originally posted by masonwatcher

When was the last time a Qassam rocket killed an Israeli. None recently. Tit for tat implies an equally matched opponents. That is not the case; it is a one side conflict.

The present situation is just yet another extension if ignorance that has been going on for decades from both sides! ok so now Isreal is the bad guy just wait in a few weeks or months the tables will be reverse AND then they are the victims.

It's always a case of one upsman of who was the biggest victim and now we have a right to " Defend or retaliate"

Those stupid Kassams. Hamas Radio "155 now dead."

Originally posted by masonwatcher
When was the last time a Qassam rocket killed an Israeli. None recently. Tit for tat implies an equally matched opponents. That is not the case; it is a one side conflict.

Ahem, makes no difference those rockets are fired at Israel to cuase damage, death and confusion. It's like 2 people facing each other with guns, the first person fires and low and behold he misses, the 2nd persons fires and shoots him dead. Moral of the story is you don't wait for him to chamber the next round because he missed with the first. Hamas are incredibly stupid and purposely provoke the Israeli's into responding. Hamas incites the death of its own people at the behest of the Iranians to further whatever pointless political end. The irony is the Palestinians are too stupid or timid to tell Hamas enough is enough.

This last aspect of 'disappearing' is a psychological attrition tactic to gut Palestinian society. Historically Stalin and Pinochet employed the method of 'disappearing' an individual going about their lawful business to crush community spirit.

Really do you actually have and stats for this ? Or are you trying to fit a square peg into a round hole ? "to gut" Palestinian society you imply mass disappearances by referencing Stalin's Russia and Pinochets Chile.
The Americans in Iraq have probaly snatched and "disappeared" more poeple in Iraq than the Israeli's ever have - just some food for thought.

Originally posted by RFBurns


This little back and forth battle goes much further back in history than just recently. Both sides have carried this over decade after decade. It was so darned close to being resolved back in the late 70's but nope, and again it came very close to being resolved in the early 80's, but nope.

Exactly!

I'm so sick and tired of this. It always seems just as the moment of something wonderful happening somebody cranks up the heat and people die! It happens to be Isreal this time.

"oh no but this situation is differant"

Give me a break! An eye for an Eye is dead! stick a fork in it!

Originally posted by Zapataman
Lets pray and hope the lives of the innocent don't get entangled in this mess.

I hate to be dissolute and insensate, but I fear it is too late for that. The Middle East is still lacking a tutelage, but I do not despair because chaos cannot sustain itself.

Peace is an absolute.

Actually, IMO this major issue will never be resolved as along as Israel has it's way. Israel don't want peace, they want to kick the Palestinians out of their land and keep them confined to less and less territory as the years pass.

Remember when Clinton was getting close to establishing peace in the region?... amazingly at the same time he got caught in that scandal with that Jewish prostitute Monica Lewinski and was being set up for impeachment.

Remember the motto of the Mossad-- "By way of deception, thou shalt do war"

The United States invaded Iraq for worse reasons then Israel bombing Palestine. The reason this is a big issue is because Israel has better tactics when it comes to war. The way I see it, the Palestinians have the power to
end this conflict. Give up the people launching rockets, help Israel and you will
receive help in return.

Israel is doing this in retaliation against being bombarded with rockets. Although the rockets haven't done as much damage as Israel's retaliation, it is the principal that counts.

BBC. "Israeli killed by Hamas rocket strike." Woops, they stuck lucky this time. That will not help the civilians living in Gaza one bit. When the suicide nutters start blowing up the buses it's going to get silly.
BBC. "Airstrikes continuing."