SHADOW GOVERNMENT

George Bush announced that we now have a "Shadow government". Question- What happens at the end of Dubyas term? Is the "Shadow" government disbanded? And when the next "election" comes around, wouldn't it be a waste of time to vote? Say the democratic party wins, who will be running the country? The new democratic government or Dubyas "Shadow". ?????????? Would this be a good time to suggest you do a search for the article "Shadow of the swastika"? Or" The Elkhorn Manifesto"? Strange days indeed.

[Edited on 21-1-2003 by tr]

I read a book Underground Bases and Tunnels which discussed there was an 'unelected' government that runs over several presidential terms regardless of party status, Demo or Repub. This has been going on for a long time.

It makes sense though in my opinion because if all chains of power were wiped out in say a nuclear attack on Congress, you could get either the army take over in a bloodless coup, in which case it becomes a military state.

This secret government would be able to come out and pass orders and keep the chain of command and government running, and keep the country going. It is an excellent back up plan to have in case of any disaster.

The problem is that shadow government officials aren't elected by the people. In that case, the government is not a democracy or a republic.

I was under the assumption that the "fallout shelter" for the existing government existed for a long time: Mt. Weather. But Bush was the first one to come up with the idea of a "shadow government," where the members are kept secret. The members of the shadow government serve shifts; usually it is 90 days.

I'd be interested if anyone knows the executive order or piece of legislation that makes all of this so.

Edit: It isn't one executive order that puts the shadow government in place; the planning goes all the way back to Reagan.

Check out this link:
www.washingtonpost.com...

The last executive order Bush issued with regards to the S.G. is 13228, which creates the Department of Homeland Security. The DHS has the authority "for ensuring the continuity of the Federal Government." Yeah, Bush was the first to actually implement the Shadow Government & chose members.

Edit: One more informational link:

www.wsws.org...

[Edited on 1-1-2004 by logiclock]

[Edited on 1-1-2004 by logiclock]

From what I have read, the Shadow Government is supposed to be part of a contingency plan in case the 'real' Government is wiped out.
This is to ensure that government continues and people can't just go around being free to do what they want to do. (Freedom ? - we can't have that now, can we ?)

I can only assume that the Shadow Government stays the same no matter who is voted in, but that is just conjecture.

[Edited on 1-1-2004 by ThePook]

Yes, the SG is supposed to be a just-in-case scenario.

Each administration will probably pick the members of the SG ("probably" because Bush is the first administration to do so) since the executive branch is in charge of the "continuity of government" and has the ultimate control. But that's why it sucks, because there's no checks and balances, and this situation is basically the same thing as martial law once you throw in a few commando groups (i.e. delta force for "terrorism prevention"). You have the executive branch running the whole show.

from my studies the shadow government is a government which is unelected and instead of voting a president, you are really voting for a spokesmen to speak for the SG.

The SG members are unkown.

Is it only the USA who have a shadow government, or do other countries ? (The UK comes to mind, especially with Tony Blair copying virtually everything George Bush does)

UK government does have a shadow government but not in the sense as the US. The shadow government in the UK is referred to the opposition party (party which came second in the elections) and has shadow members

"George Bush announced that we now have a "Shadow government"".

I'd like to see this quote. This would be some great NWO material. =)

Secret, shadowy governments have been around for a long time. The official Shadow Government is part of the "Continuity of Government" program. But I refer to any of the shadowy factions that run our country as the "Shadow Government."

When did Mr. Bush make this announcement? I haven't heard anything of this at all....

-wD

I don't think the president actually announced it, but he didn't deny it when asked - in fact, he sidestepped the question (twice) when asked by the media:

www.whitehouse.gov...

Most of the "Continuity of Operations Plan" information comes from unnamed government sources in news articles. Most of the evidence can be found through the executive orders.

[Edited on 1-1-2004 by logiclock]

I have an obligation as the President, and my President has an obligation to the American people to provide -- to put measures in place that should somebody be successful in attacking Washington, D.C., there's an ongoing government. That's one reason why the Vice President was going to undisclosed locations. This is serious business and we take it seriously.



[Edited on 1-1-2004 by oconnection]