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reply posted on 29-12-2008 @ 10:01 PM by rockandroll84101

why would God care about religions when he is looking for who believes in his son that he sent, to die on the cross for mankinds sins, so that they can pray for forgiveness to his son and then his son can judge whether they can be worthy of the father or not, why does he do this, he is resting, and when he was present people who followed after him were working hard day and night as hard as they possibly could just to be worthy of him, now he invites all who love him to follow his son!, he is pleading with every man to the day he dies, follow my son!, so i'm telling you never mind religions, religions means people who do not believe in following the son of god or they would be doing that, they want whatever it is that they want, if they wanted to live they would be doing the work of the son of god.

reply posted on 30-12-2008 @ 01:37 AM by Malankhkare

reply to post by flyingfish

All of the 'Jesus' story comes from Ancient Egyptian theology. Even the name is the same. It was Iosa then and it is still Iosa in Gaelic. Iosa was called Iessous by the Greeks and this is translated into the English Jesus - there never was a letter 'J' in the name, though it does exist in Egyptian - the hieroglyph 'Cobra' pronounced like 'D' in the French 'Dieu'.

Christ comes from the Egyptian KHRST which means 'Burial' and was on the coffin lids of mummies who had been 'annointed' with embalming fluids.

We have identified most biblical patriarchs as Egyptian Kings - the Joshua's (Djoser meaning Sacred), Jacob, Cain, Abel, Abraham, Isaac, Joseph, David, Solomon, Peleg, and a number of lesser known bible figures.

Lower Egypt was Israel - see wheresjesus.multiply.com...:journal:880&replies_read=19

The Heprew (plural for Hepre - Creation) were the rulers and not the slaves. The names of God, 'I Am, 'YY' (YahWeh - plural for the moon god Iah or Allah), Amen all found in Egyptian Temples.

reply posted on 30-12-2008 @ 08:34 PM by Anonymous ATS

reply posted on 30-12-2008 @ 08:58 PM by Anonymous ATS

reply to post by Malankhkare

well, I have finally got through this entire thread. Here's something to think about.
Some believe the A/C has already came, although it is said there would many anti-christs. I'm thinking that one of the signs of the Son of Perdition would be that he would change time and laws, that he would persecute the believers, or anyone not believing in his ways. If you think of the Roman Catholic Church and the power of the early Popes, they fit this to a tee.
One sure sign of identifing early believers of Yahashua (Jesus),was the 7th day Saturday Sabbath. Constitine changed the laws of worship to Sunday, and made it madatory by death. That was a changing of the times and laws (the 10 Commandments). Further down their history, we are all aware of the bloody Inquisition. If you ask me, anyone joining the Catholic church should do a little history on their own about the organization they are joining.
There is a still time coming when the Son of Perdition who appears before Messiahs return will take the stage.
I don't think you can say the Bible is a hoax, there has been to many prophecies fullfilled to think that. In Daniel, the days were counted to Yahashuas birth, to the year. In Eziekiel, he prophecised the scattering of the House of Israel, the northern kingdom. He also said how many days it would take them to repent, and that day is very near, some estimations had it this year. Yahashua prophecised the destruction of Jersalem in 60ad, so the evidence is to much in favor of it's own validity. And there are many others I don't know.
The word christian, what is it. You have to know who Yahashua was/is before you can really know who a real christian is. A real christian isn't identifed by just saying, "I believe in Jesus", Satan believes in Jesus. Yahashua said to follow His commandments. That is how you identify a real believer.
Cathloicism means universalism, they redefined religion for believers and pagans. Your own curiosity on christian ways should give you a clue on this, the idols(Mary), 7 sarements (the trinity), 1st day Sunday worship(pagan Suns day), these are just a few clues, and the Vatican does sit on the 7th hill.
One thing that is to clue us to the Son of Perditions arrival is a time of world peace that the world has never seen, then all hell is to break lose.
Speaking on the illuminati, Satan is their god, they claim to be the enlightened Ones, the Adept, or something like that. There lower pyramid structure of power doesn't have a clue of this. And they are very real, and very serious. As far as I know, their history doesn't date back to BC, and I'm pretty sure they were not the first secret society.
The 144,000 is another subject that hard to determine, but there are some good sources out there that's helping me understand more on them.
Somone said the Hebrew beliefs came out of Egypt. Another thought is that Egyptian beliefs were all pagan, many gods. When Josheph was taken to Egypt, he took along his Hebrew beliefs. Could it be possible that the Egyptians blended Hebrew beliefs with their pagan beliefs, instead of the other way around? The Hebrews has always had their same beliefs, it was recorded all the way back from the days of Moses onward, eventhough they were guilty of following pagan gods many times throughout there history.
Anyway, I guess that's enough for now.

Peace to everyone

reply posted on 30-12-2008 @ 09:05 PM by Blue Flowers

A: Religions are formed around stories and traditions or events.

B: Stories and Traditions are factual or skewed trinkets of a past time of people.

I dont like the idea of big religion, or coming together. It scares me. The Catholics got together, and we saw ritual murders..which they asked for forgiveness, but then there were muslims and the crusades..

ideologies are useful if your like satan. But if you want to be truly free you need to let it all go. Opinion, doubt, faith, joy, trauma, let it all go..and then see what i mean.

I grew up lutheran, molested by the catholic cataclism (in a lutheran church-can we say N.W.O. and 666) in my mind at age 12 or something..
This modern religion is to me a sick joke that needs to end. and the sad part is in self pitty and searching, people accept that part to redirect the mind. Thats why I believe the real God made us plants that alter our minds.. to avoid cheesy false starts. Like our modern paradigm and why we have the problems we do.

p.s. try mental time progression travel expirementation. Its randomly informative, and God allows it!

(crowd gasps in awe)
I came to know parties, and people. And found church a drag.

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reply posted on 30-12-2008 @ 09:25 PM by Stormdancer777

Someone not of this world will bring all faiths, and peoples together.

Christ was not a Christian,

Psalms 22:27 All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.
28 For the kingdom is the LORD'S: and he is the governor among the nations.
29 All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul.

Psalms 72:8 He shall have dominion also from sea to sea, and from the river unto the ends of the earth.
9 They that dwell in the wilderness shall bow before him; and his enemies shall lick the dust.
10 The kings of Tarshish and of the isles shall bring presents: the kings of Sheba and Seba shall offer gifts.
11 Yea, all kings shall fall down before him: all nations shall serve him.

Isaiah 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return,

That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Romans 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

Philippians 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

reply posted on 30-12-2008 @ 11:27 PM by WhiteFeather

You are right, Christ was not a christian. I understand that the word 'christian' was already around. His followers were called Nazarenes according to Acts 24:5...
For we have found this man (Paul) a pestilent fellow, and a mover of sedition among all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the TextNazarenes:

The religion known today as Christianity is somewhat a conspiracy. That doesn't mean that all the believers within christianity are living a lie.....although they celebrate Christmas with the tree and Santa Claus, and Easter with the bunny instead of Passover, (do a wickipedia on Easter and read the pagan origins). It just means that they need to wake up and do some homework and learn the truth.

The return of Yahashua (Jesus) is suppose to be forwarned by a loud divine trumpet that everyone will hear. That should be a real clue for believers and everyone alike, concerning the Antichrist. The main thing is to live your daily life in the way that Yahashua instructed us and we will be taken care of.

It is true... it is said that even the very elect would be decieved by AC... if it was possible.
Matt 24:4 TextJesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you.

Matt 24:24TextFor false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. 25See, I have told you ahead of time.
(The whole chapter of Matthew 24 deals with the events of the endtimes).

He is telling us of the extreme effort, that will be put forth in order to pull off such a deception worldwide; that anyone, even the elect will be fooled for a while. But, Yahuah (The Father) will make sure that the elect will not be decieved as described by saying, Textif it was possible, which means it isn't.

And Daniel 12:4 describesText why the elect will not be decieved
Text"But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end, many shall run to and fro [world travel will increase dramatically] and knowledge shall increase."

Up until that time, even the elect will buy into the deception (conspiracy), but because of the prophecy of 'increase of knowledge' (the internet source for one) the elect will learn the truth and come out of the conspiracy. You can see a sample of this knowledge coming forth on this website.

As far as who will be AC, and when will it occur, we can only speculate. Alot of things are pointing to 2012. The first US black Presidents term will take in 2012....which many sees as a messiah in itself. Aggression is really heating up in Israel nowdays. I see where Yellowstone is having a lot of seismic activity, a real time bomb they say. Then I hear the planet Jupiter is a real threat, being in reality just a blast away from being another star. The Earth was destroyed by water once. It is said that it will be by fire next time....there are some senarios that seem possible, but I don't think it will be in the days of human existence, a lot of things must happen first.

Peace

reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 03:23 AM by spellbound

reply to post by 12.21.12

Caesar did not rule the earth.

reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 03:25 AM by spellbound

reply to post by Stormdancer777

Storm,

How ridiculous to say "Christ is not a Christian" - where do you think the name came from?

reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 03:32 AM by spellbound

reply to post by Stormdancer777

Also, Storm, you are so right about someone not of this world...that person is Jesus Christ our Lord.

reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 07:34 AM by WhiteFeather

reply to post by spellbound

Hello Spellbound,
Yahashua (Jesus) was not a christian. There is a good website that goes into great detail on Messianic subjects like this. www.fossilizedcustoms.com

I am a believer like yourself, for over 40 years; thinking like everyone else....for instance, thinking the word christian came from the word christ, a follower of Christ. All those years, I was in the dark about a lot of things. I didn't know, did you know the name Jesus cannot even be translated into Hebrew as a proper name?, even though it is a Greek name, meaning 'Hail to Zeus", or "Son of Zeus". Pretty clear to me now, the je means hail, the -sus sufix means Zeus. In Hebrew, jesus means horse. That's not a worthy name for a King. A lot of the cities ended in sus, like Ephesus, Tarsus, ect, they were pagan believing peoples who worshipped deities like Zeus.

The Bible translators got the name Satan correct, the Hebrew is Shatan, but they couldn't get the name above all names correct, Yahashua, meaning "Ya (Our Father) is our Salvation". Psalms 68:4 says the name of our Father, Yah.... in a good translation that is. Most will say Jah, substituting the letter J for Y. The letter J, like someone previously mentioned, was not even around until several hundred years ago. Halleluyah is another mispelling, meaning "Praise you Ya".

You know ATS is a conspiracy website. Some of the Bible bashing is upsurb, but not all of it is. Even this kind of Bible info maybe shocking at first, but if you do some extra research on it, you will see what you don't know you thought you did know.

Afterall all, what is deception..... such as that prophecised in Matt 24:24. It is, "THE GREAT CONSPIRACY".

Peace

reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 08:37 AM by SmallManGeorge

I think this could either be done by some sort of cataclysm or something very bad happening that forces them together, or someone or something very special bringing together. It's most likely that it isn't going to happen for a very long time however.

reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 08:59 AM by cosmicpixie

reply to post by 12.21.12

12-21-12, can I ask where you got the idea of the need for 144,000 of us to raise our consciousness to a certain level in order to tip the scales in our favour....the only place I ever heard the 144,00 figure mentioned was in Revelations. How come you link it to the Mayans, have you any sources I can read or is this just an idea you had come to you ?

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reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 09:07 AM by Flighty

Everyone is barking up the wrong tree IMO

The one thing that will bring all religions together is ATHEISM.

If an athiest got in control of the world and made it illegal for ANYONE to practice any RELIGIOUS FAITH, then yes, all religions would unite together to put an end to such ungodliness.

So, the catalyst would be Atheism.

reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 06:03 PM by ReelView

Not sure what your asking but aside from any Devil/political/NWO manipulations there will come a time when a good many people who have followed the old social religions will realize they are ineffective for true salvation. Perhaps even those following the "Pagan" practices and leading the NWO efforts will themselves realize they have a real opportunity that begins by abandoning their corrupt ways and practices and embracing the true path. How close that time is, I don't know, but I suspect it will follow a serious amount of humbling and checking of the outward tendencies of peoples minds. A great many people will realize and be willing to face the temporal nature of the world and embrace their own spiritual welfare not just because of a sickness of the worlds of matter but because they will clearly realize the solution is really here, now and they're only hope is to embrace that opportunity while they have the human birth with which they can come to know the true supreme being and finally go home. Sincerity and the right karmic state will be the keys by which such an opportunity will avail itself.

reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 06:23 PM by 12.21.12

reply to post by cosmicpixie

First, the mayans knew of the 144,000 which become apparent when aligning mayan tablets on top of each other revealing the number 144,000 on the forhead of Lord Pacal. This mainly has to do with meditation and creating light reaching outward to the cosmos when chakras are opened. So basically the 144,000 can also be described as what happens inside of ones consciesness/body during meditation. The idea behind this is that we are all of a global consciescness and to truly wield this we as a society must reach a critical mass to attain.

Hope that clears that up. Also watch some David Wilcocks videos that might help provide further understanding of the subject.

reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 10:16 PM by Boniouk06

Don't read up on David Wilcock, the guy is 100% bananas.
believes in stargates, roswell, atlantis, and thats hes the reincarnation of some prophet. Hes nuts!!

Very amusing, but NUTS.

If people do genuinely believe what he's saying, then please stop, and just question your own sanity. A thirst for knowledge is healthy and admirable. But please follow the truth, not just anything thats told as the truth.

reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 10:23 PM by Cio88

Not to tease with a one liner ... but im sure Master Obama will have the answer