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Who will bring all the religions together?


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reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 04:19 AM by 12.21.12


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Okay I am going to respond by saying take a look at the Georgia Guide Stones. They will kill atheists too no doubt. The 144,000 Illuminated ones are all parts of these bloodlines. Which means basically that everyones gotta go except of course they will need to save something as they can not only inbreed. DNA database maybe??

Christians of course would be the easiest, cause they are so hyped on the antichrist and will be the first to rebel. Atheists also will go at the same time. Well lets face it they are atheists, they will not believe it either and will rebel.

The mayans had a bit of a different understanding. 144,000 people must achieve a global consciousness to activate the changes in our DNA that will occur. the illuminattis only hope is to stop that from happening for us before it does.



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reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 04:29 AM by Boniouk06


Originally posted by 12.21.12
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Okay I am going to respond by saying take a look at the Georgia Guide Stones. They will kill atheists too no doubt. The 144,000 Illuminated ones are all parts of these bloodlines. Which means basically that everyones gotta go except of course they will need to save something as they can not only inbreed. DNA database maybe??

Christians of course would be the easiest, cause they are so hyped on the antichrist and will be the first to rebel. Atheists also will go at the same time. Well lets face it they are atheists, they will not believe it either and will rebel.

The mayans had a bit of a different understanding. 144,000 people must achieve a global consciousness to activate the changes in our DNA that will occur. the illuminattis only hope is to stop that from happening for us before it does.


again, interesting, but to assume the Bible is all fake, and that this second coming can be staged with technology to implement th eNWO... all that is a realistic, down to earth, alternative to believing in the Bible and all the far fetched things right? but then you say that this will change our DNA?

DNA changing for 144,000 people on its own, is something id probably say was more unlikely than the Bible being true. Just my opinion.

I still think Project bluebeam is a plan to hijack the second coming, and that the Bible is true and will be followed by the real Christ. Just an opinion. Either that or both are false, nwo, and the bible, and that 40 years from now, people will still be predicting dates and watching them uneventfully pass by lol.

interesting though dude.



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reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 04:43 AM by 12.21.12


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Oh well your totally right IMO about Bluebeam.

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reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 04:53 AM by Kandinsky


I'm confident such a thing is beyond us. Historical texts are like rorschach tests. Look at the book of Revelations for example. Read it. Now look at the incredible amount of interpretations people gain from it. There's no consensus. Some take it at face value and some apply it as a template to modern society. Others see it as predicting our future. No consensus. Subsequently, there are hundreds and thousands of predictions made by armchair prophets and book selling prophets. Out of all these somebody picks one they like and applies it to their own world view.

In at least 3000 years there has been no peace in the Middle East. Conflict rages along old tribal divides and religion fuels the process. Shia, Shi-ite, Sunni etc. In the US, there are dozens of different Churches worshiping God in their own way and tut tutting at the others. In Ireland, there's still conflict along Protestant/Catholic lines. India and Pakistan? Two nuclear nations on the brink of war for political reasons shrouded by Moslem/Hindu conflict. I could go on, but we already know all this.

In my own labored way, I'm questioning why anyone believes that religions will come together? If it's based on prophecy, why choose one prophecy over another? Why trust the assertions of any one person claiming direct revelations from a higher power? If it's based on blind optimism and a hope for the end of conflict, I agree and support the idea.

Buddhism and Hinduism are not compatible with Christianity and Islam. How can they be brought together by anyone? More importantly, these prophecies are predicated on the idea that we each subscribe to a religion. Unlike the past, millions are no longer religious. Human nature, in conflict and peace, is incapable of being united under one leader, Whether Buddha, Christ, anti-Christ , Mohammed or anyone else appears, they will not unite humanity.



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reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 04:58 AM by Boniouk06


good post dude. Will certainly be interesting to see somebody try. Altho you might want to read up on project bluebeam, that could unite the masses if done correctly.



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reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 05:04 AM by 12.21.12


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Thanks. Thats why I'm on ATS. I haven't read much on Bluebeam, but what could they tell me that I haven't heard before? Anyways I received confirmation about some of this earlier today from a source I can not say, this whole thing is going to explode all over the internet just wait. We will get our 144,000.



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reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 05:18 AM by Boniouk06


Thats if the internet is still around come this new regime?!

Virgin are already looking to implement a new type of internet laws.
No free speech. Shocked? why would we be shocked? We dont get free speech on television, radio, in the newspaper or in magazines...
Now they are going to do the same to the internet. Official websites only. No others.

That or just cut the internet off full stop. Remember that huge cable in the middle east that got cut? Shut off the internet to millions for months... good trial methinks.



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reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 05:19 AM by Zeus187


whoever does, i hope they bomb the crap out of them...

^ read that again ^



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reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 07:02 AM by Lenbenhear


Originally posted by flyingfish
I am curious if anyone has any info on a leader who will converge all the religions on earth.

I know about the anti-Christ story,but that's not where I'm going here.
There has got to be stories that predate.

Any info?


>>> THE ONLY PERSON IN RELIGIOUS AND OCCULTIC LITERATURE that fits that description is the person of "The Mahdi" "the false messiah" "the antichrist" "The Maitreya-Buddha, - THE GREAT WORLD TEACHER" and deceiver *who proceeds the return* of Jesus Christ, The TRUE Messiah.

Fact is: MOST PEOPLE are all ready to receive such a false messiah and deceiver. It has to do with A BIG LIE: "I AM *my own god* in charge of MY OWN destiny!" ... satan has most people right where he wants them.

the pride and ego of fallen man is like putty in the hands and spirit of satan/lucifer: the great tempter and deceiver.



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reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 07:12 AM by Lenbenhear


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Thank you for your very knowledgeable and thoughtful post on this issue.

WHERE IS THE PLACE OF SAFETY??? ... See:

Psalm 91. Psalm 51. ---> John 14:1-6 & 15:1-9.

* John 17:3 *
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These are scriptures worth seeing and receiving.

YESHUaISTHELORd1 4ever.
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reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 08:21 AM by TheRandom1


I see most of you folks saying antichrist this and antichrist that, but tell me, can you ind the word antichrist in the book of revelation?

No, you can't, it's not in there, it's in other books of the Bible, but not in the ook of revelation. The media and the maintream church has created this bs antichrist, there will be no antichrist, there will be The Beast (which is a one world government), The False Prophet (which I believe is what you people are calling the antichrist) and then there is the red dragon, which is satan.

Who will "bring all the religions together"? Well first of all what makes you think that anyone has that agenda? Some religions are polar opposites (e.g. Satanism vs Christianity), people will not except any of this "spiritual blending", there is one way though, it wont be through the pope or anything like that, remember are good ol' uddies the Raelians, yep, they're "gods" will be the ones that bring "world peace".

-Lahara



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reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 08:48 AM by Boniouk06


The beast is used in the Bible to mean country, not one world goverment. Although the word woman is also used to mean church.

The "woman sits on the beast with 7 heads"

could mean

The church that sits on a country of seven hills

Vatican has its own country and Rome is known as the city on 7 hills...

Maybe the vatican is our antichrist?



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reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 10:14 AM by runetang


The religions of Earth can never be truly unified.

It is simply impossible, they will never get along because they'd all have to agree. Just the 3 monotheistic main religions would be a nightmare in itself. You'd have to have a story that all 3 groups agreed on or else you'd have no unification.

This means that the new religion as I like to think of it would have to have the following traits, just off the top of my head:

1) they'd have to recognize Muhammad as a divinely inspired prophet.
2) they'd have to recognize Yeshua (Jesus) as the Messiah of Jewish Lore.
3) they'd have to clear up a plethora of minor difference in the existing stories, ie; in the Koran, Ishmael is almost sacrificed by Abe, in the Bible, it's Isaac who is almost sacrificed by Abe, and there are many more things like this.

Currently Muslims accept that Jesus was born from a virgin Mother, and revere Mary quite highly. They recognize his prophet status, but since God is not a flesh and blood human, God cannot have sons and/or daughters, except for the entire human race as a collective. Therefore Jesus cannot be teh *literal* son of God, or God fully incarnated into a single man. They do think he was divinely sent by God, but they do NOT believe that he was crucified. They believe someone was crucified in his place and he was taken up into Heaven by God in the flesh while still alive. They believe Jesus will return in the end of days.

Currently the Jews don't accept Jesus was born of a virgin mother OR that he was a divinely inspire Prophet. They certainly do not think he is the Messiah, and outright denied him when he was here in the flesh. Jews also do not believe that Muhammad was a divinely inspired prophet either. They DO believe Jesus was crucified, but not that he rose from the dead. They do not believe Jesus will return at the end of days, but are awaiting their Messiah (or so they think).

Currently the Christians will not accept Muhammad as a divinely inspire prophet. Some individual Christians may do so, but collectively they do not, and no Christian organization has endorsed such an idea. This means none of the major Churchs of the world accept him as a prophet, including the Roman Catholic Church, as well as the Church of England, and even American Baptists and Evangelical Churchs. They believe Muhammad existed and they accept his history, but that is as far as it goes, much like Jew's attitude toward Jesus. They believe Jesus was crucified and rose from the dead on the 3rd day before ascending to heaven. They believe he is the Messiah, and they believe he will return in the end of days.

So as you can see here, Jews and Christians would have to accept Muhammad as a divinely inspired prophet. Jews would have to accept Jesus in the same manner that the Muslims do at the least, ie; that he is divinely inspired, sent by God, is a bonafied prophet, was born of a virgin mother, etc. They'd also have to accept him as Messiah in order to believe that he will return at the end of days, because if they did not, Christians would not join into a single religion with them.

The only way this could happen and will happen is when Yeshua(Jesus) returns to gather his flock and make war with the Beast and the Antichrist and all of that good stuff. Once Yeshua is on the scene and supernatural things are taking place for the world to see, the Jews would be much more apt to officially designate him as their Messiah you see. Islam already states that he will return in the end days to do battle with the evil doers, just that he'd be doing it alongside the Imam Mahdi (yes, its written that they do a sort of tag team on Satan lol). Muslims would have to accept the Holy Trinity, and you KNOW that isn't gonna happen ... they see it as Polytheism.

So yeah, "Jesus" needs to return and then a 1 world religion will take form. Here's the catch: Jesus explicitly stated that when he returned, he would have a new name, and that no man.. not even Jesus at that time of saying this, would know what that name is until the time comes. So this means that when Jesus returns, his name won't be Jesus, and this will cause a problem within itself due to people who will doubt him. But more importantly, the believers can all rally around him, and this would be the "new religion" of all 3 combined. It would be Jews who accept Jesus as Messiah, Muslims would have to accept that this man/being with a name different than Jesus (though IS Jesus returned) is the same man written of in all the texts, and would thus also need to accept the Trinity doctrine if that turns out to be truthful. Certain Christian sects do not believe in the Trinity as it is presented by Catholicism.

So as you can see, if you are a Christian and have read this far, my opinion on it is that the faithful who are around shortly after Jesus returns will be from all three monotheistic religions. You'll have quite a few so-called Christians denouncing the real Jesus out of confusion and fear. You'll have Jews who witness the miracles and other supernatural things that will be taking place and recognize him as Messiah. Lastly, you'll have Muslims who realize that it is Jesus returned or Isa as they call him, and that his "side" and whatever doctrine being spread at the time of his presence will be the doctrine to follow. So really the end times faithful will be a motley crew, and there will also be a lot of people who call themselves Christians not being saved, joining the Beast out of fear and confusion, and denounce the real Jesus returned for the very same reasons. Should be quite interesting ... just remember..

WHEN HE RETURNS HIS NAME WONT BE JESUS/YESHUA! HE SAID SO HIMSELF TO LET US KNOW.

[edit on 12/27/2008 by runetang]



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reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 01:02 PM by cosmicpixie


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Yes- Maitreya and the organization that fronts him (Share International).
I began a thread about it a few days ago :

Maitreya, One World Religion Planned

Share International's Website



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reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 01:25 PM by flyingfish


Wow! What a good read .
It's good to be able to bring up such topics and be able to get some real feed back.
Thanks.



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reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 01:29 PM by 12.21.12


Originally posted by TheRandom1
I see most of you folks saying antichrist this and antichrist that, but tell me, can you ind the word antichrist in the book of revelation?

No, you can't, it's not in there, it's in other books of the Bible, but not in the ook of revelation. The media and the maintream church has created this bs antichrist, there will be no antichrist, there will be The Beast (which is a one world government), The False Prophet (which I believe is what you people are calling the antichrist) and then there is the red dragon, which is satan.

Who will "bring all the religions together"? Well first of all what makes you think that anyone has that agenda? Some religions are polar opposites (e.g. Satanism vs Christianity), people will not except any of this "spiritual blending", there is one way though, it wont be through the pope or anything like that, remember are good ol' uddies the Raelians, yep, they're "gods" will be the ones that bring "world peace".

-Lahara


So your saying China is the devil. Or better yet communism is the devil then right? Gotcha.

Just kidding. The book of Revelations is an outline for One World Government.



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reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 01:32 PM by 12.21.12


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Look up the Queens Beasts on wikipedia.



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reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 01:34 PM by mystiq


Converge all the religions? Converge patriarchal fascism that suppresses feminine energy and cooperation and sharing by villifying women, and creates scapegoats in homosexuals, and other groups, all under the original makers of these oppressive religions, the renegades, followers of Enki/Enlil. Not likely. We don't need them converged. We need to grow up and modify our faiths. I for one like the message Jesus brought out of all the world religions, but also like some of many thoughts, from shamanism, to native beliefs, to some eastern knowledge. Jesus was either an et on assignment or someone speaking from the mutliverse/all-verse real hidden God. In order to be spiritual and truly humane, you have to ignore most of all religions.

Theres been some talk of uniting religions by trying to bring into being a form of christianity that resembles Sharia Law, and takes the scripture literal, ie. hang gays, and adulterors, and eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth kind of nonsense. In other words, bring the world back thousands of years into barbaric, foolish nonsense. Perhaps this is their intent after depopulating earth of 6 billion.



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