Challenge Match: semperfortis vs schrodingers dog: "All On The Same Date?"

The topic for this debate is “The Chinese New Year Should Be Synchronized With The Gregorian Calendar."

semperfortis will be arguing the pro position and will open the debate.
schrodingers dog will argue the con position.

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***This Debate Will Begin Sunday December 28th At 12:00pm EST***

[edit on 26-12-2008 by MemoryShock]

“The Chinese New Year Should Be Synchronized With The Gregorian Calendar."

semperfortis vs schrodingers dog:

Semper’s Opening

Good day to all:
Let me take a moment and thank my Opponent for his time and attention here in this debate. Memoryshock for his dedication to the Debate Forum and his setting up of this debate for us to engage in, and of course, You, the readers and the judges.

Now let us begin:

With a population of over six billion people, it may sound strange to say the world is getting smaller, but in the context of travel and communications, who could argue this.

Many people communicate in real time chat on the internet that reside directly across the world from each other. Jump on a plane and you are only hours away from a destination that not too very long ago, took literally months. Still we manage to separate ourselves quite nicely, and effectively with all sorts of things like language, borders and that dog gone calendar thing!!!

In this debate I intend on showing that with one BILLION, three hundred MILLION (as of 2007) Chinese souls, they need to “get on board” with the rest of us and start using our Calendar!!!! Especially when they have their “New Year”

Who doesn’t love the New Year? Here in the states it is a right of passage to go to “Times Square” and stand in the cold and watch as that magical glass ball descends towards the last few seconds of the old year; and scream as we bring in the New year…

Or if one can not make it to New York, one may choose to sit and watch Dick Clark and wonder if he truly did come over on the Mayflower, or if he really is Immortal.

Maybe just set some firecrackers off in the back yard and then sip some champagne by the fire.

Why, I ask are we denying the Chinese, or why are they denying themselves, the wonder and magic of celebrating with the rest of the world? ON ONE SINGLE DAY

I mean let’s face it; basing one’s New Year on a Lunar Cycle went out of style with the Native Americans and the Druids and it is FAR to difficult to set down and try and figure out. Especially when one has to order party hats, favors and enough Champagne to drown the mistakes of the previous year.

Why not just have it on the first day of the Gregorian Calendar like the rest of the world?

Sheesh

Here is a GRAND example of why this needs to be changed:


Wiki

Look at it this way.

As China takes an even more important role in the world economic and political make up, are WE to be expected the place our business and economic lives on hold while they run around shooting off firecrackers and hoisting dragons in the air?

Really!!!!

If they want to be a Major Player, they need to learn to act like one.

And COME ON what is the deal with this?


Wiki

So the country that invented fireworks, needs lessons from us on using them?

Socratic Questions:

1. What harm would there be if the Chinese celebrated their New Year in sync with the Gregorian Calendar?
2. Do you think that a modern country can afford a 15 day celebration where no business is conducted?

**Disclaimer**

To all of our Chinese friends and followers:

This is only a debate and we are having fun with it. Nothing said here is intended to bring discredit or shame on your celebration or to offend you in any way

Now with that being said, I shall turn this over to my esteemed opponent.

Just remember:

“The Chinese New Year Should Be Synchronized With The Gregorian Calendar."

Thank you

Semper

I will claim my 24hr extension.

“The Chinese New Year Should Be Synchronized With The Gregorian Calendar."

semperfortis vs schrodingers dog:

Semper’s Reply 1

Need to get moving on this:

Now, for a moment let us discuss the NOW, that’s New World Order for those that are uninitiated.

While those with close ties to their individual governments, a sense of patriotism or national identity, this will be abhorrent to them. But in many ways, a “One World Government” would benefit mankind.

Essentially war would be eliminated, disaster response would vastly improve and the digital age of immediate communications would go through the roof.

But we can’t.

Why not?

We live and work from different calendars!!!! And the Chinese take off for weeks at a time for some celebration!!!

How is it that a “New Year” can be celebrated for more than one day anyway?

Sheesh

Some history is appropriate I believe:


Wiki New Year

Now reading that, why is it that the Chinese still insist on their week long celebration AND the one day the rest of the modern world has set aside?

It has always been my impression that the Chinese people were an industrious people, but looking purely at this issue, it would appear they are a party people.

And what is this all about?


Wiki Chinese New Year

At least “3” different “Year One’s”…..

WHAT???

How do they even have any idea when it all started?

Now if you think that is confusing, look at this!!!



I mean look! It is 2009 for goodness sake and time to move past all the mysticism and pandering to the superstitious natures I guess that are inherent in us all and get on with the business of living.

We are in a Global Community and we have Global Economics and Global Communications and Global this and Global that. How can we all ever really come together when we can’t even decide what the New Year is?

Here is a Converter. Look at this and you can get the full impact of how confusing it must be for business people.

Chinese Calendar Converter

I particularly like this:


Chinese Calendar

No wonder everyone wants to live in the West. Enough to drive one MAD!

In the end, it is clear that:

“The Chinese New Year Should Be Synchronized With The Gregorian Calendar."

Thank you

Semper

Due to extraneous circumstances, schrodingers dog will forfiet this debate.

Congratulations to semperfortis.