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Terrorist Attack, Washington DC, Inauguration Day


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reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 01:30 AM by antar


My thoughts are that if your Dad really had intel or great concerns, he would make you leave the city during that time. Really, thats how it works.



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reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 01:50 AM by Majorion


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Osama bin Laden carried out the attack. He admitted it on video three different times. Why doubt him? Not only did he do it, but he warned the US years in advance that such an attack was coming. Again, why doubt him?



Just because someone sent out some threats doesn't necessarily mean(or prove) that he/she/they carried out that particular threat. If anything.. this proves that U.S intelligence were admittedly aware of such an attack prior to it ever occurring. And when it comes to the so called "videos".. I think that the contradictions and unverifiable identities of those in the videos marks as much credibility as UFO vids. I can't remember what this one recent thread I read was titled here on ATS, but there was a video or a sound recording or something where Bin Laden makes one of his first statement after 9/11 in which he denies involvement with the attack on the WTC buildings and the pentagon.



Also, who said that the "Magnificent 19" were uneducated, slobs, who were religiously motivated? The fact is, Al-Quada is politically motivated, and the 19 were well trained and educated.



Magnificent 19?... did I mention anything to do with the number 19 and it's followers?... FYI a man named Rashad Khalifa is the one started this cult (in the U.S) based on the premise of Islam but twisting it into it's own new sect. The fact of the matter is that Islam is in no way affiliated or associated with this man(Khalifa) or his newly formed doctrine based on numerological data presented as proof of him being a messenger. So even if a bunch of number worshipers carried out the attacks of 9/11, that proves that they weren't Muslims to begin with.

Al-Quada?...Oh, you mean "Al Qaeda". Yes I'm very aware of the much promoted group by the media you get your so called information from.



If you live in Saudi then you know that the 19 are celebrated as heros and not CIA stooges. So, if you are honest with yourself, you know that the 19 were in fact Muslims. Maybe not the sort of Muslims you would want to hang out with, but they were who they were.



No, this is false, who the hell told you that Saudis celebrate terrorists or "number worshipers" for that matter? .. I AM being honest with myself and others, you are the one putting out false information about us and accusing me of lying to myself. I repeat.. we do NOT condone, support or associate ourselves with such people/groups. In fact, we too have had buildings and complexes blown up throughout the years here in Saudi and we also have our own fight against terrorism, they mostly kill Muslims I might add. If I were to ever show any support for such acts than I would probably be put in jail. That is our political policy. We are as much anti-terror as the U.S is.



I won't spend much time on the fact that 17 of the 19 were Saudi and the other two were Kuwaiti. There can be no doubt that this is because Osama trusted others of Saudi and Kuwaiti origin more than others. Since Osama's family is Saudi but of Kuwaiti origin



All this is media blabber and speculation with no real proof. Do I really need to get into a debate with you over the CIA and Zionist control of the most powerful media organizations?.. in short, these higher groups with agendas are the ones who put out this information to the likes of you and others. Believe what you wish.

And if this were true, then why haven't the U.S attacked/invaded Saudi Arabia as a response to 9/11 instead of invading Iraq who turned out to have NO WMDs?



I also won't spend much time on the fact that Osama bin Laden was a former Saudi Intelligence Officer. Something that the Saudi's don't like to admit for obvious reasons. It was widely reported however, back in 1979, when Osama was sent to Afghanistan to help the rebels at the request of the Saudi government.



I don't doubt that Osama has been linked and "rumored" to be working for many intelligence organizations including the CIA. I just don't state any of this as "fact" like you do.



So, we don't have to look too far to find a political connection for Osama but it aint the Jews.



Well you better start looking, because you're gonna need a telescope to see far enough through this issue.

Jews? nah.. it couldn't be God's chosen people!! could it??

whatreallyhappened.com... eisraelis.html

www.commondreams.org...

www.foxnews.com...



Peace all,

Majorion

[edit on 27/12/08 by Majorion]



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reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 07:24 AM by wdkirk


I could see our own government setting up an attack on this day with the purpose of lighting a fire in the hearts of Americans thereby giving them a reason to stay at war against an new target. A target that has already been picked for us to release our anger against.

my 2 cents.



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reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 08:21 AM by enigmania


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It is one thing to say that you believe otherwise, but don't assume that everyone takes it for a fact that your wild eyed conspiracy theory is a fact.



I'm sorry, you're right, it takes people with at least half a brain to see this is a fact.

But, but, I saw Bin Laden say he did it.

Do you speak Arabic? Do you know Bin Laden personally? All I saw was a guy with a beard speaking Arabic.

There's a hundred things I want to say to you, but this not the place, nor will it do any good, since you are still on the "Muslims did it" vibrational level.

Well good luck.



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reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 10:37 AM by horsegiver


It's really quite dreafull that, owing to previous 'World Events' we are expecting to see either a terrorist attack, or an assasination at the Inauguration.
However, I have always 'seen' Hillary Clinton as the next President, when she failed to get the nomination, I thought 'oh well, maybe she'll be Vice President first, and take up the Presidency following an assasination'.
So now for this to happen, it will be necessary to assassinate BOTH the President and the Vice President ! If something like this has been planned, then an indiscriminate bombing would make it too dangerous for Hillary to attend. So the question arises, will she be attending? if yes, then maybe a shooting, if not, then it could be a bomb.
In short guys, if Hillary is going, you should be 'safe', if not, there may be a bomb threat, so stay away!

It is just so sad to even feel the need to entertain such thoughts, but after 9/11 clearly anything is possible.

Stay safe my friends,

Regards,

Horsegiver.



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reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 10:52 AM by antar


Going on 5 pages and the OP has really not said anything about his plan or if Dad ever clarified his original warning. Matter of fact all he said after the Op was to leave Dad out of it. Dad may be the only one we can rely upon to make decisions prior to the inauguration as to stay in town or leave.

PRESS your Dad, tell him you have close friends in DC and want to know that they will be safe, and if a dirty bomb goes off, just how dangerous will it be for you ONLY 5o miles away?

What are the prevailing winds and what evacuation plans does he REALLY see you able to do in the aftermath of a detonation? 50 miles is well within the blast area. If he loves you and is really concerned he would give you tickets to a safe location prior to the inauguration.

Look at the line up of scheduled guests, do you really thnk the richest woman on the planet is not on the inside track of what will or wont go down? Now if none of the biggest supporters are a no show, I would say get the hell out asap.

I am seriously beginning to doubt this entire thread although it brings up the same question many many have considered.

It is appropriately placed in skunkworks. IMHO.



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reply posted on 28-12-2008 @ 01:57 AM by Djdoubt03


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Haven't really talked to my father since the first post.


My plans are to wait it out and see what happens, unless my dad says, son it's time to pack your wife and my granddaughter up and head out. I promiss if I get any more info from my dad I'll let everyone here know. And Thanks for all the great posts on this topic.



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reply posted on 28-12-2008 @ 02:57 AM by tiso_us


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So Majorion, In your own words, is it possible that these terrorist could have been Zionist Jews, reason I asked this because I saw an old video that shows how they go into a country like roaches, and dress like them just to blend in.

Here is the video I was referring to(fellow ATS'er video)

Link

Back to the OP, This Event should be avoided at all cost....to risky. all the news media from around the world will be there. Just think about that for awhile. not only that everyone in D.C. will be to.



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reply posted on 28-12-2008 @ 10:48 AM by Anonymous ATS


I believe that something will happen on inauguartion day. I mean think about it 5 million people and there are thousands of countries and religious leaders that would like to have alot of Americans dead.

I'm going on a school trip to Wa, D.C. for the inauguration. It will be a fun an great experience. I'm not going to let thoughts or ideas hold me back from going. If something does go down then it was just my luck.

No one knows what tomorrow will bring, but I am glad to go and say I was and will be apart of that and tell people I was one of the 5 million there.

In true fact I believe that something will definitly happen.



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reply posted on 28-12-2008 @ 05:18 PM by enigmania


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In true fact I believe that something will definitly happen.





If something does go down then it was just my luck.




How bout taking your fate back into your own hands, and not going near D.C. that day?



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reply posted on 28-12-2008 @ 05:56 PM by lunarminer


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LOL!

Aside from the personal attacks, what evidence do you have that the US Government did it?

What evidence do you have that anyone other than OBL and his buddies did it?

There is a mountain of evidence that it was in fact OBL. One piece of evidence is that OBL admits it himself. As for speaking or understanding Arabic, no I don't but al-Jazera has plenty of people who do, and they did the translation into English. Oops!

As for having "half a brain" multiple degrees in math, engineering, and computer science. Oops!



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reply posted on 28-12-2008 @ 06:13 PM by enigmania


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What evidence do you have that anyone other than OBL and his buddies did it?



Please, there's a site full of evidence right here.



As for having "half a brain" multiple degrees in math, engineering, and computer science. Oops!



So, you've been through the system. Surely, you must be familiar with the laws of physics then.

Maybe you should apply them to 911 and see what doesn't add up.

Or make some calculations, engineer a scale model, run a computer simulation!

Or, just try to use the other half of your brain, the one on the right side.



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reply posted on 29-12-2008 @ 12:09 AM by Majorion


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So Majorion, In your own words, is it possible that these terrorist could have been Zionist Jews, reason I asked this because I saw an old video that shows how they go into a country like roaches, and dress like them just to blend in.



In my own words, yes.. I think it is possible, IMO more probable than the Bin Laden/AlQaeda explanation. One reason I believe this to be the case.. and to be candid.. I don't believe that Arabs and Muslims(in general) are smart enough to pull off an attack of this magnitude without the prior knowledge of NSA and/or CIA. And this is coming from an Arab Muslim guy so you won't hear those words uttered too often.

Even a previous conspiracy master here on ATS called John Lear believes that 9/11 was a joint operation between CIA and Mossad. Of course most people think that John is either a disinfo agent or simply insane but either way it's noteworthy that he's a former CIA pilot.

In my previous post on this thread, I provided links to Zionist involvement in 9/11 dubbed 'the five dancing Israelis'

BTW I haven't been able to watch that video you gave the link to. Buffering takes too long.

Peace all,,

Majorion



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reply posted on 29-12-2008 @ 09:35 AM by Shadow_Lord


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I couldn't agree more. Way to many people use theories, or conspiracies as "fact". Then build facts, around those "facts".



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reply posted on 29-12-2008 @ 09:30 PM by BornPatriot


Cool the worlds first mass terror attack on live television --- gee, what will these muslims think up next... how to take away our freedoms... someone still has to explain that one to me... we are taking your freedom because that is what ben laden wants to do, so what bush beat him to it .. is that it..?



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reply posted on 1-1-2009 @ 05:45 PM by Dr virus


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your in a fantasy world fella u have no idea



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reply posted on 1-1-2009 @ 05:46 PM by Dr virus


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your also in a fantasy world downut



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reply posted on 1-1-2009 @ 05:53 PM by enigmania


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Comming out the mouth of someone that doesn't know about capitals and punctuation, and has absolutely nothing to add, I'm sure they will be devastated.



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reply posted on 9-1-2009 @ 12:02 AM by Anonymous ATS


terrorists dont care who runs our country and arent going to waste time trying to Kill Obama. Im working right by there and im not really worried...



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