KIRKSTERUK

Being straight is normal. Gay isn't as straightforward. What do you think the ratio of hetro/homo is? Homo is significantly less.

People who need glasses are a smaller group compared to those who don't need them.Are they abnormal then?

There are far less people with red hair than black,brown or blonde.Does that mean red heads are abnormal?




Lannock

My statement is not contradictory. If a child does not know about sex how on Earth can it know what it's sexual PREFERENCE is?

Which you yourself answered by saying,

Their answer is usually that they just knew.

How can they just know,if they don't know what sex or sexual preference is?

Reading through the previous posts will not change my OPINION. I never said I was right and you are wrong. You sound like someone who has a major stick up their behind. I wonder what happpened to you to make you gay...

This is why people need to read through the thread.
I have shared my story many times.I,like many many other gays,have never ever been attracted to the opposite sex.From the age of sexual awakening we have always been attracted to the same sex.

I have never been abused,I have parents that are neither over-bearing nor distant.They are both supportive and loving.As a child(like today)I had many friends of both sexes....

Now choice,as I've also said before,means that there has to be 2 or more things to chose from.I have never been attracted to men,so where is the choice? If a straight person says they chose to be straight,then it means they had a choice between homosexuality and heterosexuality.But so many don't even see that reasoning.They are blinded by ignorance.



[edit on 1-1-2009 by DantesLost]

I never recall being attracted to guys really. But i've always had an open mind and just do what feels natural to me.
Sometimes I know a good looking guy when I see one but I think most guys are pretty ugly
I think i'm on the same level as alot of girls are, as in they kind of check out girls sometimes sort of for comparison purposes or say 'she's hot', but they'd never do anything else.

For me this whole topic really isn't an issue, it's exactly the same as some people liking mcdonalds or they don't. It's that trivial for me, it's just a preference.
And I wish it were like that for everyone else too.

Originally posted by Lannock
I've had some interesting discussions regarding this with homo- and heterosexuals. The homosexuals always say they knew from childhood they were gay. My question has always been, what does a child know about sexuality to know that they are gay? Their answer is usually that they just knew.

It had nothing do with sexuality or the act. It was more so at 7 I became interested in guys as crushes never girls. More so puppy dog love. Nothing more, nothing less.

My theory is that homo-sexuals (usually male) had one or more of the following happen in their lives (and often due to personal weakness or character flaws) 'become gay':
1. Were abused as a child sexually, emotionally or physically. I don't have any figures but to the best of my knowledge a large percentage of boys who were sodomised become gay.
2. They might have preferred to play with dolls or even dressed up in their sister's clothes and were influenced into thinking they were gay.
3. Had a weak father or their father was never around.

1. Never happened to me. At age 35 I've only met one gay person whom claimed to be molested out of thousands I have met.

2. I played with everyone, boys and girls with toys. I didn't want dolls but, did play with both. I had no sisters to play dress up with and have never had a desire to wear a woman's clothes or be transsexual. The majority of gay men aren't what you think. Most gay men you would not recognize unless they told you. My main toys growing up were GI Joe, M.A.S.K., Transformers, Voltron, and a few others.

3. My father was in the military at one point. He was a very strict father whom loves all the heterosexual things like women, sports, hunting etc. He was always around. If one questioned his manhood in person he would likely make that person lose a few teeth.

As for when we choose to be straight? We are influenced into being straight. It is the "norm". If a boy goes to a new school his dad doesn't ask him "any cute boys at the new school?" does he? Boys take girls to the prom, not other boys and many other things including the media, movies, etc.

My dad asked more in line what my test scores were and what homework I had. I took a bisexual guy to the prom.

[edit on 1/1/2009 by toochaos4u]

[edit on 1/1/2009 by toochaos4u]

Originally posted by DantesLost
KIRKSTERUK

Being straight is normal. Gay isn't as straightforward. What do you think the ratio of hetro/homo is? Homo is significantly less.

Would the term defect be better? It is obvious that poor vision is when your eyes are are not working properly, so maybe being gay is a sexual defect....

Does that sound better?

[edit on 1-1-2009 by Xtrozero]

July 15, 1996 is the day I chose my sexual identity.

Anyone that says that they haven't chosen their sexuality is lying. Whether you are openly gay, closeted gay, straight, bi, transgendered, into bondage, incest, pedophilia, or bestiality, there is one single event in your life that you WILL look back on as the day that you CHOSE by your -actions- what your sexuality will be.

I'm attracted to women...always have been...never was a choice and IMO being gay usually isn't either

-Kyo

Likewise, Christians DON'T need to judge what's beyond their understanding, yet they make it their business to do exactly that.

Well said...

I have no idea why people can't let the god they believe in be the real judge. Isn't that how's it's supposed to be?

-Kyo