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reply posted on 25-12-2008 @ 08:08 PM by Good Wolf
reply to post by Daniem



It's a crazy mixture of the power of suggestion and self hypnosis. I've seen it myself. And even as a christian I could tell there was a kind of 'Derren Brown' psychology going on.

It's the power of belief essentially that brings about this behaviour.



reply posted on 25-12-2008 @ 08:11 PM by GreenGlassDoor
reply to post by Daniem



Who are you to criticize how people worship? I didn't see any duress or force being used against these people. How they find God and spiritual fulfillment is their business, not yours or mine or anybody else's.

Good for them. They are looking for a higher power. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg how they do it, so I'll let them be -and so should you.

That fact that you are trying to besmirch their character by comparing them to drug users and mental patients is bigotry and shameful.


reply posted on 25-12-2008 @ 08:16 PM by Clearskies
reply to post by Obsrvr



Are you O.K.?
I notice a lot of your posts are strangely written.


reply posted on 25-12-2008 @ 08:18 PM by Obsrvr
Originally posted by Clearskies
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post by Obsrvr


Are you O.K.?
I notice a lot of your posts are strangely written.

And, I'm sure, literally dead-on. Unc will say otherwise.


reply posted on 25-12-2008 @ 09:01 PM by Daniem
reply to post by GreenGlassDoor



Im just beeing concerned for these people's health. So what if I'm against such strong drugs like LCD? Cant i critize people for doing something harmful to themself? My natural human instinct tells me that those fellow humans are not acting "right", and in my mind it looks like some of them are in a terrible mental state, or maybe on some drug. In no way am i making fun of those (poor?) people.

If they choose to act like that even though they are healthy humans, i think it is THEY who are making a mockery of mental patients and drug addicts.

Lol, besmirch their character? Around here christians already have a reputation of beeing nuts. And thats their own fault.


reply posted on 25-12-2008 @ 10:16 PM by Deaf Alien
reply to post by SleeplessInUS




What part of that video states or indicates that it is a christian gathering? I saw nothing.


What are you talking about? This IS a christian gathering.


reply posted on 25-12-2008 @ 10:19 PM by Deaf Alien
reply to post by GreenGlassDoor




Who are you to criticize how people worship? I didn't see any duress or force being used against these people. How they find God and spiritual fulfillment is their business, not yours or mine or anybody else's.


So you don't care that they are being scammed? You don't care that certain people are using them for money and power? The is the same technique used by Hitler and so man other charismatic persons.


reply posted on 26-12-2008 @ 01:01 AM by Good Wolf
reply to post by Kailassa


People who join it become different, as though they have been emptied and zombified, and you can feel something very evil and black in their services.


Yes I've seen in it my local church. It's a Flanders factory that just shrinks people's worlds. Some of my friends are like drones cos of that brainwashing church.



reply posted on 26-12-2008 @ 02:20 AM by Kailassa
Originally posted by Good Wolf
Yes I've seen in it my local church. It's a Flanders factory that just shrinks people's worlds. Some of my friends are like drones cos of that brainwashing church.

Frightening, isn't it?

And their vision of heaven is frightening too. Nothing living except God, Jesus, human souls and angels, because they don't believe animals can have souls, so they certainly don't believe plants can make it to heaven.

It's a garden-hating yuppie's wet dream. A palatial house of gold with a golden courtyard for each person and a golden harp to sing praises with.

For ever and ever throughout eternity.

It reminds me of a joke.

Frank had a real bad big bikie brother, Billy, who finally got mowed down by a semi-trailer. As Frank wouldn't pay the mob off for his dead brother's drug debts they shot him at Billy's funeral.

When Frank got to heaven he was horrified to not only find Billy there, but to see he had a gorgeous blonde and a full keg of beer. So he stomped up to God and demanded an explanation.

"Well, Frank, it's like this," explains God.
"It might look like Billy's in heaven, but he's really in hell."
Billy thinks he'd rather a piece of hell himself if that's what it's like.
"Nono, says God, look at him, see his face wet with tears?
You see, the cask has a hole in its lower end, and the lady doesn't."


I was just a kid when I first heard that, and my dad said any bloke with half an ounce of ingenuity could easily find a way around both problems. I didn't understand at the time why mum slapped him so hard.

Years later his pretty secretary explained.

Anyway, thoughts of a lonely, aseptic, golden heaven make me realise this Earth is not so bad after all.


reply posted on 26-12-2008 @ 02:24 AM by Clearskies
reply to post by Kailassa


No plants or animals in Heaven?
Have you read the Bible?
The Lion and The Lamb, even snakes and cows!
The Tree of life, which has twelve fruits for the twelve months, and it's leaves are for the healing of the nations.


reply posted on 26-12-2008 @ 02:30 AM by The Great Day
I struggled deciding whether to post here as i don't like it when people attack my beliefs but i don't mind explaining them so maybe we should ask those of whatever faith this is what scriptures back up this behaviors or ritual assuming they use the bible to base their beliefs on. Because from the outside looking in it does look like they are filled with a spirit but not with spirit from an orderly supreme Omnipotent being.

scripturetext.com...

there are many examples of order and Christian conduct found in the bible. When in doubt look to how Jesus conducted himself, i don't recall him doing the funky chicken ever, not even at his going away party

But far be it for me to judge(though my imperfect human nature really wants to)

Kind of curious about the barking as well





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[edit on 26-12-2008 by The Great Day]


reply posted on 26-12-2008 @ 03:05 AM by Good Wolf
reply to post by Kailassa


Frightening, isn't it?


Quite so. The upsetting thing is that there is very little I can do about it. I can't pry without seeming aggressive or defensive or otherwise some sort of threat.


reply posted on 26-12-2008 @ 11:04 AM by Kailassa
Originally posted by Clearskies
reply to
post by Kailassa


No plants or animals in Heaven?
Have you read the Bible?
The Lion and The Lamb, even snakes and cows!
The Tree of life, which has twelve fruits for the twelve months, and it's leaves are for the healing of the nations.


It's my understanding that the verses you are referring to are prophesies relating to the Earth of the future, rather than descriptions of heaven.

A tree with leaves for healing nations would be useless in a place where there were no nations. ;-)
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