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reply posted on 25-12-2008 @ 03:09 PM by magnetik

I consider myself christian and know better then to celebrate pagan holidays. If you as a christian feel fine celebrating pagan holidays such as holloween, easter, christmas, etc then go ahead. just because it feels good doesnt make it so

We like to knock Jehovah witnesses but aside from some weird ideas and changing a few worlds in their bible their the closet America has to christians that follow the bible correctly

Bless up

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reply posted on 25-12-2008 @ 03:13 PM by andy1033

I see someone dressed up as santa in usa and went on a shooting spree, in a house. Interesting the rituals are going public.

Showed what xmas is really like, and meant for.

reply posted on 25-12-2008 @ 04:14 PM by The time lord

Originally posted by andy1033
I see someone dressed up as santa in usa and went on a shooting spree, in a house. Interesting the rituals are going public.

Showed what xmas is really like, and meant for.

I saw that story being scrolled on the news and before it said Calafornia USA I knew it had to be an Ameican incident, I could not imagine it being Australian, although I did quickly rule out the UK for such behaviour since we have less guns although we are catching on with the nut case behaviours.

reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 03:13 PM by civilized mammal

Originally posted by The time lord
Jesus hates the ideas that people practice and maybe not so much the individual, its more the group or social effect rather then what each person thinks. But if Jesus was a Plan from God then he has a right to keep it on a straight path and maybe that is why he hates counterfeiters and the idea of his name being highjacked and frauded. This was going on since the Babylon ages before the Egyptians and the Greeks with their gods because this was a plan from the Devil throughout history to currupt the true path and journey of the Messiah figure.

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Logically, one would not expect Jesus to love the enemy of God. As for whether He hates, I don't know. He does have the authority to judge on the last day. I see how that makes hate quite unnecessay.

reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 08:31 PM by The time lord

Well in the Book of Revelations it does say that the devil when he was in Heaven tormented God and swore at him day and night, meaning a long time before the Arch Angel Micheal decided to kick his but, Jesus and his Dad have a score to settle including 21 plagues and the lake of fire to come.

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reply posted on 2-1-2009 @ 12:26 PM by Anonymous ATS

I have gone back and forth about this Santa Claus thing my whole adult Christian life. Santa, the Easter Bunny and such, are just ways inwhich non-believers can celebrate holidays. Christians celebrate the birth of Christ in solemn yet joyful ways, pagans celebrate with drinking and mayhem. You will know true believers by their fruit. On the other hand, if a small child is enchanted by the fact that a harmless, jovial, red-suited fatman brings them a gift to celebrate the birth of Christ-whats the harm. You've got 364 days to teach your children about Jesus. If one's faith is endangered that much by a harmless, funny, tradition-maybe we should spend more time on Jesus instead of television and video games. Can this Santa thing be overdone? Certainly. Can a benign tradition be used to make the birth of Christ even more fun? In proper perspective, yes. I ask you-what is wrong with enjoying the sights, sounds, smells, and traditions of Christman when celebrating His birth as long as it doesn't include the immorality and debauchery of the unbelieving pagan world. I think God has better things to worry about than whether we enjoy a string of beautiful colored lights adorned on one of His majestic pine trees. On the other hand-a person who is just concerned with their own frivilousness will no doubt celebrate through drunkeness and immorality. No matter what traditions a nation or society adheres to, a Christian will only partake of things that do not grieve the Spirit of God. Santa Claus, gift giving, decorations do not violate scripture. Drunkeness, immorality and revelliing do.

reply posted on 16-1-2009 @ 04:26 PM by The time lord

I guess its not just down to one day's celebrations but the changing of the Biblical principles in the action of people, Christianity is not dead because of Christmas and no one sees Santa as a God anyway but a mascot for christmas. But I guess its the people who run the nations and try and justify Biblical meanings in pagan fashions rather than than tell the truth that hurts because many will still see Christmas as a Christian thing anyway regardless of the pagan undertones.

reply posted on 21-12-2011 @ 04:38 PM by The time lord

I don't believe that Nicolatians has connections with Father Christmas or Saint Nicolas unless it is meant to mean something from the same route words. Should have added a question mark to the thread.

en.wikipedia.org...

Saint Nicholas (Greek: Ἅγιος Νικόλαος, Hagios ["Saint", literally "Holy", Latin: Sanctus] Nicolaos ["victory of the people"]) (270 – 6 December 343),[3][4] also called Nikolaos of Myra, was a historic 4th-century saint and Greek[5] Bishop of Myra (Demre, part of modern-day Turkey) in Lycia. Because of the many miracles attributed to his intercession, he is also known as Nikolaos the Wonderworker (Νικόλαος ὁ Θαυματουργός, Nikolaos ho Thaumaturgos). He had a reputation for secret gift-giving, such as putting coins in the shoes of those who left them out for him, and thus became the model for Santa Claus, whose modern name comes from the Dutch Sinterklaas, itself from a series of elisions and corruptions of the transliteration of "Saint Nikolaos". His reputation evolved among the faithful, as was common for early Christian saints.[6] In 1087, his relics were furtively translated to Bari, in southeastern Italy; for this reason, he is also known as Nikolaos of Bari.
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Question: "Who are the Nicolaitans mentioned in Revelation 2:6, 14-15?"

Answer: The exact origin of the Nicolaitans is unclear. Some Bible commentators believe they were a heretical sect who followed the teachings of Nicolas—whose name means “one who conquers the people”—who was possibly one of the deacons of the early church mentioned in Acts 6:5. It is possible that Nicolas became an apostate, denying the true faith and became part of a group holding "the doctrine of Balaam," who taught Israel "to sin by eating food sacrificed to idols and by committing sexual immorality." Clement of Alexandria says, “They abandoned themselves to pleasure like goats, leading a life of self-indulgence.” Their teaching perverted grace and replaced liberty with license.

Other commentators believe that these Nicolaitans were not so called from any man, but from the Greek word Nicolah, meaning "let us eat," as they often encouraged each other to eat things offered to idols. Whichever theory is true, it is certain that the deeds of the Nicolaitans were an abomination to Christ. They, like the Gnostics and other false teachers, abused the doctrine of grace and tried to introduce licentiousness in its place (2 Peter 2:15, 19; Jude 1:4).

Jesus commends the church of Ephesus for hating the deeds of the Nicolaitans as He does (Revelation 2:6). No doubt the leaders of the Ephesian church protected their flock from these destructive heresies and kept their people from committing the same evil deeds. All sin is hateful to Christ, as it should be to His followers, as we hate men’s evil deeds, not the men themselves. For the church at Pergamos, Jesus had not commendation, but censure. Unlike the Ephesians, they actually embraced the teachings of the Nicolaitans (Revelation 2:15). Jesus warns them that unless they repent, they are in danger of the judgment that is sure to fall on those who teach false doctrine, attack His church, and destroy His people. The sword of judgment is poised over their heads, and His patience is not limitless (Revelation 2:16; 19:15).
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reply posted on 21-12-2011 @ 04:43 PM by Shminkee Pinkee

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er...correct me if I'm wrong...which I rarely am...but isn't the whole point of Jesus Love not not Hate? Therefore, ergo, Jesus is incapable of hating anyone or anything. Please ask your doctor for more medication. Thank you call again :-)

reply posted on 21-12-2011 @ 07:49 PM by nii900

Originally posted by The time lord
In the bible the Virgo star sign represents Virgin birth,.....

KaumAra

कौमार kaumAra adj. virgin [ anat. ] edit
मालिका mAlikA f. garland
spokensanskrit.de...
मलिक malika m. king

edit on 21-12-2011 by nii900 because: 10-? 1-969 -? 1969 Man walks on the moon ?-tan?matra?

edit on 21-12-2011 by nii900 because: persona grata?

reply posted on 22-12-2011 @ 07:33 AM by The time lord

Originally posted by Shminkee Pinkee
reply to post by The time lord

er...correct me if I'm wrong...which I rarely am...but isn't the whole point of Jesus Love not not Hate? Therefore, ergo, Jesus is incapable of hating anyone or anything. Please ask your doctor for more medication. Thank you call again :-)

Does Jesus love Satan? No, but if he did Satan can not give it back, does he love people who want to destroy the world No? Maybe he does not hate anyone but he hates the actions in what man does in his own destruction.
Does Jesus like people who says he is fake and they go to other gods, not sure he likes that action, he can hate if he likes it is part of resolving the problem, you hate in order to resolve, how else does it get stopped if he just lets the world get blown up if he did not hate that idea.

reply posted on 23-12-2011 @ 03:29 AM by Shminkee Pinkee

Originally posted by The time lord

Originally posted by Shminkee Pinkee
reply to post by The time lord

er...correct me if I'm wrong...which I rarely am...but isn't the whole point of Jesus Love not not Hate? Therefore, ergo, Jesus is incapable of hating anyone or anything. Please ask your doctor for more medication. Thank you call again :-)

Does Jesus love Satan? No, but if he did Satan can not give it back, does he love people who want to destroy the world No? Maybe he does not hate anyone but he hates the actions in what man does in his own destruction.
Does Jesus like people who says he is fake and they go to other gods, not sure he likes that action, he can hate if he likes it is part of resolving the problem, you hate in order to resolve, how else does it get stopped if he just lets the world get blown up if he did not hate that idea.

Yawn zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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reply posted on 23-12-2011 @ 01:38 PM by The time lord

Originally posted by Shminkee Pinkee

Originally posted by The time lord

Originally posted by Shminkee Pinkee
reply to post by The time lord

er...correct me if I'm wrong...which I rarely am...but isn't the whole point of Jesus Love not not Hate? Therefore, ergo, Jesus is incapable of hating anyone or anything. Please ask your doctor for more medication. Thank you call again :-)

Does Jesus love Satan? No, but if he did Satan can not give it back, does he love people who want to destroy the world No? Maybe he does not hate anyone but he hates the actions in what man does in his own destruction.
Does Jesus like people who says he is fake and they go to other gods, not sure he likes that action, he can hate if he likes it is part of resolving the problem, you hate in order to resolve, how else does it get stopped if he just lets the world get blown up if he did not hate that idea.

Yawn zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Last time I checked Jesus loves man, not sure what happened to the The Legion when they were cast out, apparently they jumped off a cliff into water, so I doubt Jesus could love something so that is beyond repair.

reply posted on 23-12-2011 @ 01:38 PM by The time lord

Originally posted by Shminkee Pinkee

Originally posted by The time lord

Originally posted by Shminkee Pinkee
reply to post by The time lord

er...correct me if I'm wrong...which I rarely am...but isn't the whole point of Jesus Love not not Hate? Therefore, ergo, Jesus is incapable of hating anyone or anything. Please ask your doctor for more medication. Thank you call again :-)

Does Jesus love Satan? No, but if he did Satan can not give it back, does he love people who want to destroy the world No? Maybe he does not hate anyone but he hates the actions in what man does in his own destruction.
Does Jesus like people who says he is fake and they go to other gods, not sure he likes that action, he can hate if he likes it is part of resolving the problem, you hate in order to resolve, how else does it get stopped if he just lets the world get blown up if he did not hate that idea.

Yawn zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

2nd line