Jesus hates the Nicolatians and Father Christmas.

Jesus hates the Nicolatians and maybe Father Chrismas too here is why?

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In the Bible it says this about this about the Nicolatians.

Revelation 2:6 - "But this you have, that you hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate."

Revelation 2:15 - "Thus you also have those who hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate."

So who are the Nicolatians and why we could be worshipers of this deceptive pagan religion and its orgins that are Satanic in nature.

First of we have all heard of Father Christmas. But where does he originate from and why is he part of the Christmas scene when Jesus should be?

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We can not blame our selves because we have been brought up on these traditions, although with a positive message of good will gifts and the continuation of the birth story of Jesus it can not seem all that bad-right?
Well it has its pagan routes too with Father Christmas dominating the scene and other origins from the Babylonian Gods and pagan related rituals. The Bible says that God hates these practices, which have infiltrated the overall message of Bible with false doctrines and beliefs. So would Jesus hate Father Christmas today? I think he might if it spoils his message and is used as his opposite.

If we go deeper into the scene we see world leaders like Tony Blair visiting Egypt every Christmas and even David Icke has caught onto this behaviour of this hidden pagan worship which he attributes with shape shifting and demonic reptilian behaviour rituals which probably has more to do with channelling demonic entities and worshipping satanic forces during the times of the winter solstice, maybe to gain spirtual forces to help with international duties-who knows but I know some believe things.

Yes the false Christmas pagan side has seduced us all, but atheists don’t mind father Christmas as long as they don’t have to believe in Jesus anyway, it won’t harm them? But at the same time the season of ‘Good Will’ as they like to politically correctly call it is still practiced in a non-religious manner but is still learning towards ancient paganism which many do not see the harm in - well as long as JESUS is not the centre of attention why even try to be atheists when they infact celebrate the Good Will of gift giving which is more in line with occult and pagan religious beliefs anyway? So I guess unless the truth is told the double standards of trying not to be too Christian during that time of year in their nutreul beliefs have in fact turned into another substitute which has more do with Satanism even if they realise it or not, and the idea of it all is to destroy the original doctrines with a deception which many ask no questions about or do anything about.

The idea of this post is not to be anti-Christmas, trust me it’s a good tradition at heart but does have an element of anti-Christian doctrines which people would rather support because they say they are not religious and all the while they are doing the devils work which God hates anyway. What do you think, I accept all views, would be interesting to hear a few?


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Father Christmas is more a part of Christmas than Jesus because it is a pagan Holiday, not a Christian one. Hence, mistletoe, Santa and Xmas Trees. You can't get round that. I mean bloody hell, Jesus was supposedly born around June or April or something.

Invent your own holiday instead of trying to augment other peoples. You did it with Christmas, Easter and St Valentines day.

Get a hobby.

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What a bunch of hate filled hate speach. I for one am appalled. wowed. shocked and awed.

I for one stopped reading when I saw "Jesus hates..."
If Jesus is God on earth and God is supposed to be all LOVE than Jesus could not be God on earth if he "hates."
I am having less and less faith in the Bible and Christians as I learn more.
I do believe that the Bible is corrupted.

In the bible the Virgo star sign represents Virgin birth, which is supposed to be the September month of the real birthday of Jesus. The star signs represent the story of the Messiah for example Leo the Lion as a king and the Bible refers Jesus as the Lion from the tribe of Judah. A lot of the ancient celestial star alignments have said to coincide with Biblical events and another example is the star of Bethlehem, which many are trying to work out what, it could have been.
The Egyptians tried to use this knowledge to discover immortality since many of the Israelites had Godly knowledge and some of it was used as a bargaining tool of escape from captivity, but historians will argue the influence being the other way round.

If Santa Claus and Christmas is originally a pagan holiday, then Jesus et al are Johnny Come Latelys and have jumped on the Christmas bandwagon, so Santa is the REAL voice of Christmas.

The point of this that God has a justice system and he can not let all things evil win, you have sides to pick, we are like God in knowing that, we know what is Good and bad we calculate it in terms of sanity and order. God is infinite enough to cause this reality we call earth, this is just preperation for man becomeing God him self in heaven this is just childs play for greater things.

Someone or thing keeps crashing my computer everytime I write or finnish a reply so that i have to write things again.

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i thought that the spectacle we are celebrating originates from the good old days and is a mixture of rites ,

when servants became masters for one day and their masters would take on the servants role,

others speculate that "christmas" was the time before roman high times when no one would be punished

then we have thouse who celebrate that the days tend to get longer sometime during the end december.




but i guess if you are a true christian , you dont even celebrate xmass , you just sit on your tushie and turn the cheek while you wait for easter to arrive before your alowed to eat...

but as you see , we already have 4 ways of celebrating this time of the year,

3 of them pre date jesus and santa claws

YEAH!
I second that emoticon.

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God is not a "HE"
This virtual reality we call earth is controlled by Darkness.
Picking sides means to divide and conquer. Something that is not a God quality
Man preparing to become God in Heaven is preposterous.

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Here is some interesting reading that I will leave up to the reader whether you want to believe.

History is repeating itself - again. There was once a super race of aliens known to the ancient people of the Earth as the Anunnaki. For many reasons, the Anunnaki have been reduced in power today. This race of beings thrives on conquest and enslavement of those who are under them.

This is my account of the story of Nibiru and the Anunnaki:

In recent years, there have been many speculative writings about Planet X, which is also known as Planet Nibiru. Most of these writings are based somewhat on Zacharia Sitchin's book, The Twelfth Planet. Sitchin, like Velikovsky and Darwin, used his own theories to support his claims. A question arises: Is Nibiru real? The answer to that is a resounding "Yes".

There are those who believe that the Anunnaki of Nibiru are coming back to Earth soon. They believe that Planet X is going to pass by Earth, in May or June of 2003, on its 3,600 year orbit around our sun. Such believers are terrified of the consequences that a close pass by Nibiru might bring. They fear this will cause earthquakes, tidal waves, severe flooding, food shortages due to climatic conditions, diseases, meteor fire storms, volcanic eruptions and the like. They are afraid that it will result in a great catastrophic infliction of loss of life on Earth.

Planet Nibiru (Ne.Bi.Ru) is known by many names, such as: Planet X, The Twelfth Planet, Marduk, Paradise, "Heaven" and the "Kingdom of the Heavens" and etc. in various cultures. Although Nibiru has been called The Twelfth Planet, technically it is not a planet of our solar system. In fact, it is a planet from another solar system and the star that was the sun of its solar system has been extinguished. Nibiru was never visible from the Earth but the star which was the centre of Nibiru's solar system was visible in the skies from Earth. The orbiting pattern of Nibiru gave the Anunnaki the advantage of having a mobile observatory from which they could observe and investigate many other planets near its orbit.

The early people named Planet X as Nibiru in Sumerian, and Marduk in Babylonian. It has been said that the ancient Mesopotamians believed that Nibiru was the twelfth planet in our solar system and that it was "heaven" where their gods resided and came from.

Nibirians, the people of Nibiru, are often referred to as Anunnaki, Nephilim, Elohim (plural for god), and Mardukians. I shall refer to them as Anunnaki as this is what the general population was known as by the Sumerians and by those at the present time. The word "Anunnaki" literally means "those who came from heaven to earth". In the Old Testament these "heavenly" visitors are called "Anakim".

Nibiru was populated by a reptilian super race and governed by elite aristocracy known as the "Nefilim" in Hebrew, which means "they who have come down from the heavens to earth". The Anunnaki were one of the many technologically advanced alien races at the time. In fact, their civilization was advanced far beyond most others of their time. The Anunnaki called their home star (sun) "ZAOS".

The Anunnaki are a belligerent and conquering race. They are fierce, evil, lustful, incestuous, bloodthirsty, deceitful, jealous and domineering. They are also carnivorous and are often cannibalistic. They also demand human sacrifices of virgins from those they conquer and from their own kind whom they enslave.

If you imagine the worst characteristics you can conceive in Satan, you have well concocted an impression of the Anunnaki. They specialize in mind control. They also nearly perfected economic control with the development of money and the usury system. They have conducted extensive genetic engineering and have genetically engineered among other things, a super reptilian race which the Anunnaki called the "Ducaz".

The Ducaz are used for conquering and controlling the Nibirian population and those of other conquered races. Thus, the Ducaz are Reptilians. There are different types of Reptilians amongst them. Their masters, the Anunnaki Elite, are not the Ducaz. Like anything associated with the Anunnaki, there is a rigid, inequitable and regimented class structure amongst the Ducaz.

The Reptilians, or Ducaz were sent by their "masters", the Nephilim or Elohim to fight in wars with other alien races and to serve as their spies, bodyguards and police force. There are many factions amongst the Anunnaki. One of the most bitter enemies of the Ducaz call themselves the "Pers-sires", a group of aliens for which I coined the word "Vulturites" many years ago. They are called Vulturites not because they look like vultures, as some have claimed. In fact, they don't look like that at all! There are very apt reasons why I have called them Vulturites which I will not go into in this discussion.

Ironically, the Pers-sires are just a different faction of the Anunnaki race. However, the Ducaz (Reptilians) and the Pers-sires (Vulturites) have always been bitter enemies even to this day. The descendents of these two groups are now on Earth vying for supremacy of the world. Many of these are currently in political, financial, scientific, religious, legal, medical (especially in blood banks), entertainment, military, agrarian or commercial positions, and also in the sex industry. Most of these aliens are not consciously aware of their alien origins.

The Anunnaki are flesh-and-blood, biological beings with abounding pride, arrogance, uncontrollable urges for adult and child sex partners (whether they be willing or forced participants), and they have a great appetite for conquest and control. This warlike race has an insatiable thirst for control of other beings and dominion over other races, and the less privileged classes of the Anunnaki. The Anunnaki developed and imposed complex, oppressive cast and gender systems. They are misogynists. That was why they eliminated the worship of the Divine Mother of the early people on Earth whom they conquered when they arrived. There was so much resistance to the elimination of the worship of the Divine Mother that the Anunnaki set up replacement "mothers" for various cultures such as the 'earth mother', 'mother nature' and thereafter further corrupted the Divine Mother's image by falsely attributing Her with lustful, vengeful and jealous qualities.

The Nicolatians were a Christian sect that truly believed they were saved by grace, not by works. That's why they felt it was okay to "commit fornication" and eat food sacrificed to idols.

So in truth, it's actually exactly the opposite of what you said.

I think the opposite to your Alien Agenda theory in terms of the Biblical point of view in which different beings and maybe good and bad Angels have a war going on earth and heaven. We have different aspects of their manifestations, which are various combinations. For example Vampires, Wolf men, guardian Angels, watchers, fallen angels, demon entities, locusts, angel-human fused hybrids, genetic hybrids of both, chimeras, human shape shifting demons, reptiles, angel technology enhanced types and a few outside the earth realm but can influence. I know for sure they are Aliens from other planets and even if they were I think they have been told a lie by their ruler as a deception to form an army against God and his Angels and man on earth before the Tribulations comes underway, because during that time, the end and the beginning of time meet at both ends, the devil can go back to any time period to try and wreck creation it self and no better than the start of man’s race to manipulate the world before it even begins. But since Jesus won his role on the cross not much can be done to annihilate mankind for the sake of his Angel armies and hybrids that cannot be saved which many perished in the flood and were hunted down by Moses and also few by King David. Looking at it from a distance it’s the same old repeated story and what better ways to bring man off course by false doctrines and beliefs and Greek God Titan worship of maybe Angels that have fallen but love to be worshiped as Gods themselves.

As for father Christmas I have not yet come to many conclusions, I am posing theories and questions and would like to hear other views concerning this, maybe open a few eyes since its that time of year and the subject worth thinking about. I know that there is a Christmas for Christians and a Christmas for partygoers for the holiday seasons and further down the line a more sinister look at Christmas that is made to corrupt the original message and used by pagans and secret societies for their own bizarre uses. What I am trying to find out how deep it goes and what is the truth, what is a Nicolatian? Does it have anything to do with Saint Nicolas-Santa Claus and why do passages in the Bible hate such a sect? It’s not too well known but it’s there Biblically and maybe it was a warning afterall for the future believers of the Christian religions not to be decieved by this.


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Jesus doesn't hate anyone; He created everything and everyone; including beings from other dimensions and planets or places we haven't even thought of yet!
There is free will and it's more like, hate the sin love the sinner in whatever case it is. I don't think father christmas is on the bad boy list and am not sure about the others; I guess it depends on their heart ~ if that applies ~ but ya'know what I mean.

Jesus hates the ideas that people practice and maybe not so much the individual, its more the group or social effect rather then what each person thinks. But if Jesus was a Plan from God then he has a right to keep it on a straight path and maybe that is why he hates counterfeiters and the idea of his name being highjacked and frauded. This was going on since the Babylon ages before the Egyptians and the Greeks with their gods because this was a plan from the Devil throughout history to currupt the true path and journey of the Messiah figure.

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Jesus never hated anyone the canon society that rewrote the bible for the masses in the 400 ad period did.... enough said.

Well I think Jesus hated Satan, he did not fall under his 3 temptations and even told him to go away. I think Jesus has some moral grudges but maybe not with man but with his own Sons the fallen Angels.

Why would Jesus hate Nickelodeon? It's just a TV show for kids.

Oh, Nicolatians, sorry.

Merry Christmas, anyway.

I too've come to have less faith in christianity. It's weird tho cuase I'm gettin' closer to Jesus...I was gonna write about the hate thing but you beat me to it. 1 gold star and a check plus.

Although its quite ironic asa joke I agree but what is the real meaning behid such a name of a TV channel, now that Nike is an Ancient Greek God related to this Nicolatians wording the more we go deeper in the route names the more we find the hidden meanings. I found the route word meaning.

The Nickelodeon (AE: nickel = 5¢-coin, Greek: Odeion = roofed over theatre) was an early 20th century form of small, neighborhood movie theaters. ...

Okay its only money.