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Topic started on 24-12-2008 @ 04:49 PM by The time lord
Jesus hates the Nicolatians and maybe Father Chrismas too here is why?

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In the Bible it says this about this about the Nicolatians.

Revelation 2:6 - "But this you have, that you hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate."

Revelation 2:15 - "Thus you also have those who hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate."

So who are the Nicolatians and why we could be worshipers of this deceptive pagan religion and its orgins that are Satanic in nature.

First of we have all heard of Father Christmas. But where does he originate from and why is he part of the Christmas scene when Jesus should be?

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"Nicolaitans" means "Victorious over the people." It comes from the familiar word "nike", which is popular in our day. The meaning can be better seen in the phrase: "to conquer the laity" (from "nikos" - to conquer; and "laos" - where our word "laity" comes from). Laity means "the people, or the public". A practical example of this can be seen in the story of good old St. Nicolaus of Christmas fame. By contrast, the Gospel of Christ is a doctrine of salvation by grace through faith. But the doctrine of St. Nick is salvation by works ("If you’ll be good, then you’ll get a Christmas gift.") One depends on what Christ did. The other depends on what you do. The doctrine of Dead Works (see Heb 6:1) is used by some to control the laity just as parents use the doctrine of Santa to try and manipulate their children into good behavior. Jesus hates this doctrine because it tramples upon the very cross of Calvary itself. The whole purpose behind the doctrine of salvation solely by works is to get people to the point that they can be conquered and controlled. Jesus never set up nor endorsed a clergy - laity system. We are all one Body. There is no ‘high-archy’ nor ‘low-archy’. Christ alone is the Head.
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In Greek mythology, Nike is represented as the goddess of victory whose function was to proselytize or evangelize for Zeus, the Greek deity. If you look in Webster's International Dictionary under the heading Zeus, you will find a picture of Zeus sitting on a throne with Nike in back of him, in the act of putting a crown of laurel upon his head. Saint Nike-Laos, or Santa Claus, is of Satan the devil! What are the deeds of the Nicolaitans?

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In Greek mythology, Nike is represented as the goddess of victory whose function was to proselytize or evangelize for Zeus, the Greek deity. If you look in Webster's International Dictionary under the heading Zeus, you will find a picture of Zeus sitting on a throne with Nike in back of him, in the act of putting a crown of laurel upon his head. Saint Nike-Laos, or Santa Claus, is of Satan the devil! What are the deeds of the Nicolaitans?

Who were the Nicolaitans? The evangelists of Zeus! (Jupiter) who overcame or conquered the Jewish congregation. The Nicolaitans were not the followers of any leader Nicolas, but were NikoLaos themselves. The word Nicolaitans is a compound of the Greek words "Nike" and "Laos", Nike-Laos (Nicolas). Nike is the name of the Goddess of Victory, or the Winged Victory, and Laos is the Greek word for laity, devotees, or followers. Therefore, without any guesswork or speculation, we can identify the Nicolaitans, of the King James version of the Bible, as the Nike-laity, or Nike laos of the original manuscript of John the Revelator. And without any stretch of the imagination, we can identify the same old fellow, Saint Nike-Laos, or Santa Claus, who appears every year in the month of December, to remind us that Zeus, Jupiter, Mithra, Nimrod, Baal, Addon, Appolo, Tamuz, Bacchus, whose birthday is on the 25th day of December, is to be memorialized. He seduces the minds of the young, who in turn play upon the heartstrings of their parents, forcing them to celebrate, even against their will! Even the independent churches, when they originally came out from the worldly churches, had repudiated Christmas and Easter as pagan holidays; but now they have compromised and taken notice of these days. Why? Because it is a part of the Satanic deception. You cannot divorce Christmas from Saturnalia, with its tree worship, laurel, holly, mistletoe, cakes, and wine; nor from Easter with its hot-cross-buns (cakes to the Queen of Heaven, Astoreth), bunnies and the show of pride. All these were, and still are, part and parcel of the Babylonian doctrine perpetuated in the Christian churches today.

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We can not blame our selves because we have been brought up on these traditions, although with a positive message of good will gifts and the continuation of the birth story of Jesus it can not seem all that bad-right?
Well it has its pagan routes too with Father Christmas dominating the scene and other origins from the Babylonian Gods and pagan related rituals. The Bible says that God hates these practices, which have infiltrated the overall message of Bible with false doctrines and beliefs. So would Jesus hate Father Christmas today? I think he might if it spoils his message and is used as his opposite.

If we go deeper into the scene we see world leaders like Tony Blair visiting Egypt every Christmas and even David Icke has caught onto this behaviour of this hidden pagan worship which he attributes with shape shifting and demonic reptilian behaviour rituals which probably has more to do with channelling demonic entities and worshipping satanic forces during the times of the winter solstice, maybe to gain spirtual forces to help with international duties-who knows but I know some believe things.

Yes the false Christmas pagan side has seduced us all, but atheists don’t mind father Christmas as long as they don’t have to believe in Jesus anyway, it won’t harm them? But at the same time the season of ‘Good Will’ as they like to politically correctly call it is still practiced in a non-religious manner but is still learning towards ancient paganism which many do not see the harm in - well as long as JESUS is not the centre of attention why even try to be atheists when they infact celebrate the Good Will of gift giving which is more in line with occult and pagan religious beliefs anyway? So I guess unless the truth is told the double standards of trying not to be too Christian during that time of year in their nutreul beliefs have in fact turned into another substitute which has more do with Satanism even if they realise it or not, and the idea of it all is to destroy the original doctrines with a deception which many ask no questions about or do anything about.

The idea of this post is not to be anti-Christmas, trust me it’s a good tradition at heart but does have an element of anti-Christian doctrines which people would rather support because they say they are not religious and all the while they are doing the devils work which God hates anyway. What do you think, I accept all views, would be interesting to hear a few?


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reply posted on 24-12-2008 @ 05:14 PM by Good Wolf
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Father Christmas is more a part of Christmas than Jesus because it is a pagan Holiday, not a Christian one. Hence, mistletoe, Santa and Xmas Trees. You can't get round that. I mean bloody hell, Jesus was supposedly born around June or April or something.

Invent your own holiday instead of trying to augment other peoples. You did it with Christmas, Easter and St Valentines day.

Get a hobby.

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reply posted on 24-12-2008 @ 06:39 PM by prevenge
Originally posted by Good Wolf
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Father Christmas is more a part of Christmas than Jesus because it is a pagan Holiday, not a Christian one. Hence, mistletoe, Santa and Xmas Trees. You can't get round that. I mean bloody hell, Jesus was supposedly born around June or April or something.

Invent your own holiday instead of trying to augment other peoples. You did it with Christmas, Easter and St Valentines day. Get a hobby.

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YEAH!
I second that emoticon.

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reply posted on 24-12-2008 @ 10:38 PM by Muundoggie
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God is not a "HE"
This virtual reality we call earth is controlled by Darkness.
Picking sides means to divide and conquer. Something that is not a God quality
Man preparing to become God in Heaven is preposterous.

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reply posted on 24-12-2008 @ 11:05 PM by Muundoggie
Here is some interesting reading that I will leave up to the reader whether you want to believe.

History is repeating itself - again. There was once a super race of aliens known to the ancient people of the Earth as the Anunnaki. For many reasons, the Anunnaki have been reduced in power today. This race of beings thrives on conquest and enslavement of those who are under them.

This is my account of the story of Nibiru and the Anunnaki:

In recent years, there have been many speculative writings about Planet X, which is also known as Planet Nibiru. Most of these writings are based somewhat on Zacharia Sitchin's book, The Twelfth Planet. Sitchin, like Velikovsky and Darwin, used his own theories to support his claims. A question arises: Is Nibiru real? The answer to that is a resounding "Yes".

There are those who believe that the Anunnaki of Nibiru are coming back to Earth soon. They believe that Planet X is going to pass by Earth, in May or June of 2003, on its 3,600 year orbit around our sun. Such believers are terrified of the consequences that a close pass by Nibiru might bring. They fear this will cause earthquakes, tidal waves, severe flooding, food shortages due to climatic conditions, diseases, meteor fire storms, volcanic eruptions and the like. They are afraid that it will result in a great catastrophic infliction of loss of life on Earth.

Planet Nibiru (Ne.Bi.Ru) is known by many names, such as: Planet X, The Twelfth Planet, Marduk, Paradise, "Heaven" and the "Kingdom of the Heavens" and etc. in various cultures. Although Nibiru has been called The Twelfth Planet, technically it is not a planet of our solar system. In fact, it is a planet from another solar system and the star that was the sun of its solar system has been extinguished. Nibiru was never visible from the Earth but the star which was the centre of Nibiru's solar system was visible in the skies from Earth. The orbiting pattern of Nibiru gave the Anunnaki the advantage of having a mobile observatory from which they could observe and investigate many other planets near its orbit.

The early people named Planet X as Nibiru in Sumerian, and Marduk in Babylonian. It has been said that the ancient Mesopotamians believed that Nibiru was the twelfth planet in our solar system and that it was "heaven" where their gods resided and came from.

Nibirians, the people of Nibiru, are often referred to as Anunnaki, Nephilim, Elohim (plural for god), and Mardukians. I shall refer to them as Anunnaki as this is what the general population was known as by the Sumerians and by those at the present time. The word "Anunnaki" literally means "those who came from heaven to earth". In the Old Testament these "heavenly" visitors are called "Anakim".

Nibiru was populated by a reptilian super race and governed by elite aristocracy known as the "Nefilim" in Hebrew, which means "they who have come down from the heavens to earth". The Anunnaki were one of the many technologically advanced alien races at the time. In fact, their civilization was advanced far beyond most others of their time. The Anunnaki called their home star (sun) "ZAOS".

The Anunnaki are a belligerent and conquering race. They are fierce, evil, lustful, incestuous, bloodthirsty, deceitful, jealous and domineering. They are also carnivorous and are often cannibalistic. They also demand human sacrifices of virgins from those they conquer and from their own kind whom they enslave.

If you imagine the worst characteristics you can conceive in Satan, you have well concocted an impression of the Anunnaki. They specialize in mind control. They also nearly perfected economic control with the development of money and the usury system. They have conducted extensive genetic engineering and have genetically engineered among other things, a super reptilian race which the Anunnaki called the "Ducaz".

The Ducaz are used for conquering and controlling the Nibirian population and those of other conquered races. Thus, the Ducaz are Reptilians. There are different types of Reptilians amongst them. Their masters, the Anunnaki Elite, are not the Ducaz. Like anything associated with the Anunnaki, there is a rigid, inequitable and regimented class structure amongst the Ducaz.

The Reptilians, or Ducaz were sent by their "masters", the Nephilim or Elohim to fight in wars with other alien races and to serve as their spies, bodyguards and police force. There are many factions amongst the Anunnaki. One of the most bitter enemies of the Ducaz call themselves the "Pers-sires", a group of aliens for which I coined the word "Vulturites" many years ago. They are called Vulturites not because they look like vultures, as some have claimed. In fact, they don't look like that at all! There are very apt reasons why I have called them Vulturites which I will not go into in this discussion.

Ironically, the Pers-sires are just a different faction of the Anunnaki race. However, the Ducaz (Reptilians) and the Pers-sires (Vulturites) have always been bitter enemies even to this day. The descendents of these two groups are now on Earth vying for supremacy of the world. Many of these are currently in political, financial, scientific, religious, legal, medical (especially in blood banks), entertainment, military, agrarian or commercial positions, and also in the sex industry. Most of these aliens are not consciously aware of their alien origins.

The Anunnaki are flesh-and-blood, biological beings with abounding pride, arrogance, uncontrollable urges for adult and child sex partners (whether they be willing or forced participants), and they have a great appetite for conquest and control. This warlike race has an insatiable thirst for control of other beings and dominion over other races, and the less privileged classes of the Anunnaki. The Anunnaki developed and imposed complex, oppressive cast and gender systems. They are misogynists. That was why they eliminated the worship of the Divine Mother of the early people on Earth whom they conquered when they arrived. There was so much resistance to the elimination of the worship of the Divine Mother that the Anunnaki set up replacement "mothers" for various cultures such as the 'earth mother', 'mother nature' and thereafter further corrupted the Divine Mother's image by falsely attributing Her with lustful, vengeful and jealous qualities.


reply posted on 25-12-2008 @ 11:18 AM by The time lord
I think the opposite to your Alien Agenda theory in terms of the Biblical point of view in which different beings and maybe good and bad Angels have a war going on earth and heaven. We have different aspects of their manifestations, which are various combinations. For example Vampires, Wolf men, guardian Angels, watchers, fallen angels, demon entities, locusts, angel-human fused hybrids, genetic hybrids of both, chimeras, human shape shifting demons, reptiles, angel technology enhanced types and a few outside the earth realm but can influence. I know for sure they are Aliens from other planets and even if they were I think they have been told a lie by their ruler as a deception to form an army against God and his Angels and man on earth before the Tribulations comes underway, because during that time, the end and the beginning of time meet at both ends, the devil can go back to any time period to try and wreck creation it self and no better than the start of man’s race to manipulate the world before it even begins. But since Jesus won his role on the cross not much can be done to annihilate mankind for the sake of his Angel armies and hybrids that cannot be saved which many perished in the flood and were hunted down by Moses and also few by King David. Looking at it from a distance it’s the same old repeated story and what better ways to bring man off course by false doctrines and beliefs and Greek God Titan worship of maybe Angels that have fallen but love to be worshiped as Gods themselves.

As for father Christmas I have not yet come to many conclusions, I am posing theories and questions and would like to hear other views concerning this, maybe open a few eyes since its that time of year and the subject worth thinking about. I know that there is a Christmas for Christians and a Christmas for partygoers for the holiday seasons and further down the line a more sinister look at Christmas that is made to corrupt the original message and used by pagans and secret societies for their own bizarre uses. What I am trying to find out how deep it goes and what is the truth, what is a Nicolatian? Does it have anything to do with Saint Nicolas-Santa Claus and why do passages in the Bible hate such a sect? It’s not too well known but it’s there Biblically and maybe it was a warning afterall for the future believers of the Christian religions not to be decieved by this.


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