I believe there is an antichrist.John said there were many during his time period.But states there is an ultimate antichrist.My research shows that
this ultimate antichrist isn't necessarily a person.Judgement day is closer than you think.Before christ comes to claim our lords children, the
antichrist will arise and I think the ultimate antichrist is science.The science thats trying to prove Jesus was a myth.I've been seeing this claim
all over T.V.This opposes that that christ existed and that is an exact definition for the antichrist.
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reply posted on 26-12-2008 @ 03:49 AM by silo13
reply to post by 12.21.12
If there is someone being groomed.
And that *someone* will be called the Antichrist.
And that someone will usher in a new world religion.
Then it will be the Antichrist.
No one said how the Antichrist would get here (despite movies linking his birth to a woman being raped by a rotwieller etc)...
So, you've only just proven that in fact, there is, or will be an Antichrist.
Bummer, and here I thought you'd proven the bible wrong.
lol
*P*E*A*C*E*
Sure, there is a man who is being groomed to play this role. This person is also being groomed to appear to many as the "One" to usher in the New World Religion.
If there is someone being groomed.
And that *someone* will be called the Antichrist.
And that someone will usher in a new world religion.
Then it will be the Antichrist.
No one said how the Antichrist would get here (despite movies linking his birth to a woman being raped by a rotwieller etc)...
So, you've only just proven that in fact, there is, or will be an Antichrist.
Bummer, and here I thought you'd proven the bible wrong.
lol
*P*E*A*C*E*
reply posted on 26-12-2008 @ 04:43 PM by 12.21.12
reply to post by -zLFz-
Jesus Christ was not a myth. He was a real person. Historical data links this man to Caesarion the son of Julius Caesar, which has become the basis for my antichrist theory.
Caesarian was the last reigning pharaoh of Egypt Ptolemy XV the founder of the Holy Roman Empire and the Greatest Lie Ever told.
Julius Caesar also elevated his status to God Status, but in reality he was nothing more than a fascist dictator.
So yeah, there are many antichrists. But the AntiChrist told about in the Bible is a man groomed by the Illuminatti to fulfill the prophecy of the Antichrist as told in the Bible.
However, since this man that we are told was Jesus Christ was nothing more than a mortal man, there will not be a second coming if not only in the form of a reincarnate.
You may read more about Caesarion in the thread and post our comments about this theory in the following threads.
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Jesus Christ was not a myth. He was a real person. Historical data links this man to Caesarion the son of Julius Caesar, which has become the basis for my antichrist theory.
Caesarian was the last reigning pharaoh of Egypt Ptolemy XV the founder of the Holy Roman Empire and the Greatest Lie Ever told.
Julius Caesar also elevated his status to God Status, but in reality he was nothing more than a fascist dictator.
So yeah, there are many antichrists. But the AntiChrist told about in the Bible is a man groomed by the Illuminatti to fulfill the prophecy of the Antichrist as told in the Bible.
However, since this man that we are told was Jesus Christ was nothing more than a mortal man, there will not be a second coming if not only in the form of a reincarnate.
You may read more about Caesarion in the thread and post our comments about this theory in the following threads.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
reply posted on 26-12-2008 @ 05:21 PM by MatrixProphet
reply to post by InvisibleHeroes
Actually this is my point, only seriously!
They are against the idea of there actually having been a Jesus, so it fits.
I would label it; the secularists. It has found its home in academia and the dis-allowance of ID being mentioned or taught. Certainly creationism is out of the picture in schools.
A real movement to keep God out of everything (who some religions consider to be Jesus).
Unfortunately, secularists confuse God or ID with religion, which to me, has very little to do with each other!
Actually this is my point, only seriously!
They are against the idea of there actually having been a Jesus, so it fits.
I would label it; the secularists. It has found its home in academia and the dis-allowance of ID being mentioned or taught. Certainly creationism is out of the picture in schools.
A real movement to keep God out of everything (who some religions consider to be Jesus).
Unfortunately, secularists confuse God or ID with religion, which to me, has very little to do with each other!
reply posted on 26-12-2008 @ 05:23 PM by MatrixProphet
reply to post by 12.21.12
Actually I thought that Cleopatra was the last reigning Pharoah of Egypt!
Caesarian was the last reigning pharaoh of Egypt Ptolemy XV the founder of the Holy Roman Empire and the Greatest Lie Ever told.
Actually I thought that Cleopatra was the last reigning Pharoah of Egypt!
reply posted on 26-12-2008 @ 06:06 PM by 12.21.12
reply to post by MatrixProphet
Well that is also partially correct, sh and her son Caesarion were both co-rulers. Just look up Caesarion on Wikipedia.
Well that is also partially correct, sh and her son Caesarion were both co-rulers. Just look up Caesarion on Wikipedia.
reply posted on 26-12-2008 @ 10:50 PM by Elisha4Yah
reply to post by 12.21.12
There are many antichrists.
2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
There are many antichrists.
2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 01:44 AM by 12.21.12
reply to post by Elisha4Yah
Jesus was not born of a virgin. Jesus was not a messiah. Jesus was Caesarion the son of Julius Caesar and Cleopatra.
WE ARE ONE.
There are no messiahs, there are no antichrists other than those who oppose a man called Caesarion.
So yeah, I am antichrist. But I have not come here to rule over the world or into lead others into "holy wars". Just here to help others find the truth for the sake of a better tomorrow where mankind can become free from it's oppressors.
[edit on 27-12-2008 by 12.21.12]
Jesus was not born of a virgin. Jesus was not a messiah. Jesus was Caesarion the son of Julius Caesar and Cleopatra.
WE ARE ONE.
There are no messiahs, there are no antichrists other than those who oppose a man called Caesarion.
So yeah, I am antichrist. But I have not come here to rule over the world or into lead others into "holy wars". Just here to help others find the truth for the sake of a better tomorrow where mankind can become free from it's oppressors.
[edit on 27-12-2008 by 12.21.12]
reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 03:28 AM by 12.21.12
reply to post by spy66
Ok, to answer this question I would recommend taking an in depth look that the mandelbrot set. www.abovetopsecret.com...
This is a model of the divine proportion.
So in the bible it tells us that there were twelve lost tribes of Israel. In the painting of the Last Supper we see these twelve figureheads. These are the same ones who we read about in the Bible who have children with the sons of god. So there are these twelve bloodlines and an additional 13th bloodline which becomes the bloodline of Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene. The Merovingian bloodline.
In sumerian texts it tells us that these gods came to power according to astrological precession according to the Zodiac and the proper sign for that particular age. Often times there were wars among these bloodlines as to those who felt should be in power but were not. Much like the Rockefellers and Rothschilds today.
Anyhow the Merovingian bloodline was the same bloodline as the Queen of England and that same bloodline has been in power since the days of Ancient Egypt. This was done by the fall of Ancient Egypt and the rise of the Holy Roman Empire. Established by Caesarion. Cleopatra his mother called herself Isis after Isis the mother of Horus. Horus of course born of a virgin and had all the attributes that we are told Jesus had. Cleopatra was in succession to the crown from the same powerful bloodline that spawned Horus.
So in modern day, we have the succession to the crown in which now is the Queen Elizabeth II.
The twelve tribes of Israel went on to become mighty men of valor and renown and wouldn't you know they have governments established all over the world to this very day.
So in reality all these old wars we here about where Jews or what have you were executed. We have the Roman Catholic Church which has recovered all these sacred texts pertaining to sacred geometry and the origins of life as far as man has recorded. Remember I told you earlier that the architects of the Pyramid knew the exact distance from the earth to the sun.
Jesus the Sun of God who died and was resurrected after three days obviously represents the winter solstice. The Bible goes on telling the actual story of the age and the things that would occur according to the 13 month zodiac, which of course was the reason for Julius Caesar establishing the 12 month calendar in 46 BC as he was also given the task to create a 2000 year plan to establish a one world government.
Well taking a look at Mayan Pallettes, they also knew about the 144,000. This was discovered by taking palettes of Lord Pacal and aligning them on top of each other in different orientations which revealed a larger picture. One of which had 144,000 inscribed on the forehead. It turns out that the 144,000 had nothing to do with the twelve tribes of Israel at all but rather a massive shift of global consciences that must go beyond 144,000 people strong to attain. So once we hit this critical mass of global consciousness humanity will evolve being able to communicate telepathically as well as many other things and the powers that be will not be able to stop it. Thats is of course unless they can stop it before it happens. That is why there is fluoride in your water, that is why music was changed to 440 hz from 432, the list goes on and on.
The point about god is that we can attain enlightenment by knowing that we are all one. We are God.
There is no one and only son of God. God is every living thing and we may not attain enlightenment or evolution if we are consumed with hatred and violence. Killing a part of ourselves. Take a look at a coral reef and what happens to the life around it when it dies, it all dies.
Ok, to answer this question I would recommend taking an in depth look that the mandelbrot set. www.abovetopsecret.com...
This is a model of the divine proportion.
So in the bible it tells us that there were twelve lost tribes of Israel. In the painting of the Last Supper we see these twelve figureheads. These are the same ones who we read about in the Bible who have children with the sons of god. So there are these twelve bloodlines and an additional 13th bloodline which becomes the bloodline of Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene. The Merovingian bloodline.
In sumerian texts it tells us that these gods came to power according to astrological precession according to the Zodiac and the proper sign for that particular age. Often times there were wars among these bloodlines as to those who felt should be in power but were not. Much like the Rockefellers and Rothschilds today.
Anyhow the Merovingian bloodline was the same bloodline as the Queen of England and that same bloodline has been in power since the days of Ancient Egypt. This was done by the fall of Ancient Egypt and the rise of the Holy Roman Empire. Established by Caesarion. Cleopatra his mother called herself Isis after Isis the mother of Horus. Horus of course born of a virgin and had all the attributes that we are told Jesus had. Cleopatra was in succession to the crown from the same powerful bloodline that spawned Horus.
So in modern day, we have the succession to the crown in which now is the Queen Elizabeth II.
The twelve tribes of Israel went on to become mighty men of valor and renown and wouldn't you know they have governments established all over the world to this very day.
So in reality all these old wars we here about where Jews or what have you were executed. We have the Roman Catholic Church which has recovered all these sacred texts pertaining to sacred geometry and the origins of life as far as man has recorded. Remember I told you earlier that the architects of the Pyramid knew the exact distance from the earth to the sun.
Jesus the Sun of God who died and was resurrected after three days obviously represents the winter solstice. The Bible goes on telling the actual story of the age and the things that would occur according to the 13 month zodiac, which of course was the reason for Julius Caesar establishing the 12 month calendar in 46 BC as he was also given the task to create a 2000 year plan to establish a one world government.
Well taking a look at Mayan Pallettes, they also knew about the 144,000. This was discovered by taking palettes of Lord Pacal and aligning them on top of each other in different orientations which revealed a larger picture. One of which had 144,000 inscribed on the forehead. It turns out that the 144,000 had nothing to do with the twelve tribes of Israel at all but rather a massive shift of global consciences that must go beyond 144,000 people strong to attain. So once we hit this critical mass of global consciousness humanity will evolve being able to communicate telepathically as well as many other things and the powers that be will not be able to stop it. Thats is of course unless they can stop it before it happens. That is why there is fluoride in your water, that is why music was changed to 440 hz from 432, the list goes on and on.
The point about god is that we can attain enlightenment by knowing that we are all one. We are God.
There is no one and only son of God. God is every living thing and we may not attain enlightenment or evolution if we are consumed with hatred and violence. Killing a part of ourselves. Take a look at a coral reef and what happens to the life around it when it dies, it all dies.
reply posted on 28-12-2008 @ 05:04 AM by cosmicpixie
reply to post by 12.21.12
" he was also given the task to create a 2000 year plan to establish a one world government. "
An interesting comment. Have you by any chance got any references to quotes/bits of text anywhere that support this idea of there being a definate plan for world government going back a couple of millenia ? Specifically the 2,000 year plan ....but anything will do.
I have only come across one thing, in Daniel 2 verse 44...but there may be others I've missed
" he was also given the task to create a 2000 year plan to establish a one world government. "
An interesting comment. Have you by any chance got any references to quotes/bits of text anywhere that support this idea of there being a definate plan for world government going back a couple of millenia ? Specifically the 2,000 year plan ....but anything will do.
I have only come across one thing, in Daniel 2 verse 44...but there may be others I've missed
reply posted on 28-12-2008 @ 05:20 AM by spy66
reply to post by Neo Christian Mystic
Yes this is the power of the human mind. We can read but not understand.
Yes this is the power of the human mind. We can read but not understand.
reply posted on 28-12-2008 @ 07:50 AM by 12.21.12
reply to post by cosmicpixie
The book of Revelations.
There are also some gems here
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The book of Revelations.
There are also some gems here
www.abovetopsecret.com...'
www.abovetopsecret.com...
reply posted on 28-12-2008 @ 08:21 AM by cosmicpixie
reply to post by 12.21.12
Revelations...yes, I am aware of the stuff in that book. The last 2 chapters in particular .
Am reading through the other link now, thanks.
One other query...bit off topic sorry....In your travels researching the Jesus - Caesarian link have you come across anything that might suggest an ET/UFO presence/involvement in the lives of Cleopatra , Caesar etc....?
Revelations...yes, I am aware of the stuff in that book. The last 2 chapters in particular .
Am reading through the other link now, thanks.
One other query...bit off topic sorry....In your travels researching the Jesus - Caesarian link have you come across anything that might suggest an ET/UFO presence/involvement in the lives of Cleopatra , Caesar etc....?
reply posted on 28-12-2008 @ 08:48 AM by 12.21.12
reply to post by cosmicpixie
Well there was the mention in Genesis 6:2, however I am coming to find they might have less influence than one would think.
What you have to pay close attention to is the 144,000. They are the illuminatti. The Illuminattis only weakness becomes exposed if us outsiders can create our own collective consciousness with 144,000 people or greater. That is what this whole thing really comes down to. Thats what the fluoride and the poisons and toxins are for. They are trying to basically not let us evolve as we would naturally. However this late in the game, there is not much they can do to stop it from happening. Thats where the mass depopulation fits in.
Well there was the mention in Genesis 6:2, however I am coming to find they might have less influence than one would think.
What you have to pay close attention to is the 144,000. They are the illuminatti. The Illuminattis only weakness becomes exposed if us outsiders can create our own collective consciousness with 144,000 people or greater. That is what this whole thing really comes down to. Thats what the fluoride and the poisons and toxins are for. They are trying to basically not let us evolve as we would naturally. However this late in the game, there is not much they can do to stop it from happening. Thats where the mass depopulation fits in.
reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 04:09 PM by Neo Christian Mystic
reply to post by Elisha4Yah
BTW the Little Horn of Daniel would be the Syrian king Antiochos IV Epiphanes (167 or 164 BC). Who sacrificed a pig onto Zevs in the outer courtyard making the whole temple unholy. This ended the daily sacrifice, but it was not even near the end in time. So a similar sacrifice will be done in the latter days, like Jeshu profess.
BTW the Little Horn of Daniel would be the Syrian king Antiochos IV Epiphanes (167 or 164 BC). Who sacrificed a pig onto Zevs in the outer courtyard making the whole temple unholy. This ended the daily sacrifice, but it was not even near the end in time. So a similar sacrifice will be done in the latter days, like Jeshu profess.
reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 04:13 PM by Neo Christian Mystic
Originally posted by spy66
reply to post by Neo Christian Mystic
Yes this is the power of the human mind. We can read but not understand.
Not? You wouldn't have made this remark if there wasn't something you have understood... or?
What if all the major religions started out with the same story and it slowly diverged from there
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