There is NO Antichrist

I believe there is an antichrist.John said there were many during his time period.But states there is an ultimate antichrist.My research shows that this ultimate antichrist isn't necessarily a person.Judgement day is closer than you think.Before christ comes to claim our lords children, the antichrist will arise and I think the ultimate antichrist is science.The science thats trying to prove Jesus was a myth.I've been seeing this claim all over T.V.This opposes that that christ existed and that is an exact definition for the antichrist.

reply to post by 12.21.12

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If there is someone being groomed.
And that *someone* will be called the Antichrist.
And that someone will usher in a new world religion.
Then it will be the Antichrist.
No one said how the Antichrist would get here (despite movies linking his birth to a woman being raped by a rotwieller etc)...
So, you've only just proven that in fact, there is, or will be an Antichrist.
Bummer, and here I thought you'd proven the bible wrong.
lol

*P*E*A*C*E*

reply to post by -zLFz-

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Jesus Christ was not a myth. He was a real person. Historical data links this man to Caesarion the son of Julius Caesar, which has become the basis for my antichrist theory.

Caesarian was the last reigning pharaoh of Egypt Ptolemy XV the founder of the Holy Roman Empire and the Greatest Lie Ever told.

Julius Caesar also elevated his status to God Status, but in reality he was nothing more than a fascist dictator.

So yeah, there are many antichrists. But the AntiChrist told about in the Bible is a man groomed by the Illuminatti to fulfill the prophecy of the Antichrist as told in the Bible.

However, since this man that we are told was Jesus Christ was nothing more than a mortal man, there will not be a second coming if not only in the form of a reincarnate.

You may read more about Caesarion in the thread and post our comments about this theory in the following threads.

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reply to post by InvisibleHeroes

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Actually this is my point, only seriously!

They are against the idea of there actually having been a Jesus, so it fits.

I would label it; the secularists. It has found its home in academia and the dis-allowance of ID being mentioned or taught. Certainly creationism is out of the picture in schools.

A real movement to keep God out of everything (who some religions consider to be Jesus).

Unfortunately, secularists confuse God or ID with religion, which to me, has very little to do with each other!

reply to post by 12.21.12

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Actually I thought that Cleopatra was the last reigning Pharoah of Egypt!

reply to post by MatrixProphet

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Well that is also partially correct, sh and her son Caesarion were both co-rulers. Just look up Caesarion on Wikipedia.

reply to post by 12.21.12

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There are many antichrists.

2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

reply to post by Elisha4Yah

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Jesus was not born of a virgin. Jesus was not a messiah. Jesus was Caesarion the son of Julius Caesar and Cleopatra.

WE ARE ONE.

There are no messiahs, there are no antichrists other than those who oppose a man called Caesarion.

So yeah, I am antichrist. But I have not come here to rule over the world or into lead others into "holy wars". Just here to help others find the truth for the sake of a better tomorrow where mankind can become free from it's oppressors.

[edit on 27-12-2008 by 12.21.12]

Some more thought on this.

God is = Thee Spirit. Not of flesh. We cant see God.

Spirits (angels) = Spirits not of flesh. We cant see them.

Humans are = Spirits in flesh. We can see other humans.

Have do we communicate! Through our imagination, thoughts and actions.(the spirit of free will)

When we die where do we believe our energy(spirit) go. Well we believe that when our spirit leaves our flesh it will stand before the Spirit of God.

Why is this so hard to grasp. Well when we are in flesh we cant see other spirits. We just have our imagination and thoughts to go on.

No wonder we have problems with these issues. Nothing makes sense.

But if God is Thee main source he sure has intelligence and power. If he can create everything out from nothing.

Lucifer was a spirit A fallen angel. Not of flesh. We cant see him. I ask have do we communicate!
With our mind of course. Our spirit.

It all fits in with our understanding why this is so unbelievable.

The power of science is one thing. But to understand the power of the source is another.

[edit on 27.06.08 by spy66]

reply to post by spy66

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Ok, to answer this question I would recommend taking an in depth look that the mandelbrot set. www.abovetopsecret.com...

This is a model of the divine proportion.

So in the bible it tells us that there were twelve lost tribes of Israel. In the painting of the Last Supper we see these twelve figureheads. These are the same ones who we read about in the Bible who have children with the sons of god. So there are these twelve bloodlines and an additional 13th bloodline which becomes the bloodline of Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene. The Merovingian bloodline.

In sumerian texts it tells us that these gods came to power according to astrological precession according to the Zodiac and the proper sign for that particular age. Often times there were wars among these bloodlines as to those who felt should be in power but were not. Much like the Rockefellers and Rothschilds today.

Anyhow the Merovingian bloodline was the same bloodline as the Queen of England and that same bloodline has been in power since the days of Ancient Egypt. This was done by the fall of Ancient Egypt and the rise of the Holy Roman Empire. Established by Caesarion. Cleopatra his mother called herself Isis after Isis the mother of Horus. Horus of course born of a virgin and had all the attributes that we are told Jesus had. Cleopatra was in succession to the crown from the same powerful bloodline that spawned Horus.

So in modern day, we have the succession to the crown in which now is the Queen Elizabeth II.

The twelve tribes of Israel went on to become mighty men of valor and renown and wouldn't you know they have governments established all over the world to this very day.

So in reality all these old wars we here about where Jews or what have you were executed. We have the Roman Catholic Church which has recovered all these sacred texts pertaining to sacred geometry and the origins of life as far as man has recorded. Remember I told you earlier that the architects of the Pyramid knew the exact distance from the earth to the sun.

Jesus the Sun of God who died and was resurrected after three days obviously represents the winter solstice. The Bible goes on telling the actual story of the age and the things that would occur according to the 13 month zodiac, which of course was the reason for Julius Caesar establishing the 12 month calendar in 46 BC as he was also given the task to create a 2000 year plan to establish a one world government.

Well taking a look at Mayan Pallettes, they also knew about the 144,000. This was discovered by taking palettes of Lord Pacal and aligning them on top of each other in different orientations which revealed a larger picture. One of which had 144,000 inscribed on the forehead. It turns out that the 144,000 had nothing to do with the twelve tribes of Israel at all but rather a massive shift of global consciences that must go beyond 144,000 people strong to attain. So once we hit this critical mass of global consciousness humanity will evolve being able to communicate telepathically as well as many other things and the powers that be will not be able to stop it. Thats is of course unless they can stop it before it happens. That is why there is fluoride in your water, that is why music was changed to 440 hz from 432, the list goes on and on.

The point about god is that we can attain enlightenment by knowing that we are all one. We are God.

There is no one and only son of God. God is every living thing and we may not attain enlightenment or evolution if we are consumed with hatred and violence. Killing a part of ourselves. Take a look at a coral reef and what happens to the life around it when it dies, it all dies.

In the bible, "antichristos" means simply unannointed or non-believer. It's not a title given to one person, but a label put on non-believers in general. When John and Paul talks about the antichrist or the man of perdition with the definite article prior to the word, this displays a common practice in Aramaic and Greek and many other languages, without nessasarily talking about one particular person. We have the same thing in my native language. In english it's normal to add adjectives between the definite article and the noun, like this: the "usual" antichrist or the "typical" or "general" antichrist.

John and Paul aren't talking about the "Little Horn" or the "Second Beast", they are talking about the characteristics of the typical non-believer that opposed their testimonies.

Thank you. That was a very understandable way in describing what has apparently confused many people. And to add to what you're saying:
1 John 4:3
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Ephesians 2:2
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

It is tough to swallow for some, but the spirit as mentioned above which is working in the non-believers is the result of rejecting truth. And that truth is the Son of Yahweh who came in the flesh and was crucified for our sakes.

reply to post by 12.21.12

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" he was also given the task to create a 2000 year plan to establish a one world government. "

An interesting comment. Have you by any chance got any references to quotes/bits of text anywhere that support this idea of there being a definate plan for world government going back a couple of millenia ? Specifically the 2,000 year plan ....but anything will do.

I have only come across one thing, in Daniel 2 verse 44...but there may be others I've missed

reply to post by Neo Christian Mystic

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Yes this is the power of the human mind. We can read but not understand.

reply to post by cosmicpixie

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The book of Revelations.

There are also some gems here
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reply to post by 12.21.12

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Revelations...yes, I am aware of the stuff in that book. The last 2 chapters in particular .
Am reading through the other link now, thanks.

One other query...bit off topic sorry....In your travels researching the Jesus - Caesarian link have you come across anything that might suggest an ET/UFO presence/involvement in the lives of Cleopatra , Caesar etc....?

reply to post by cosmicpixie

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Well there was the mention in Genesis 6:2, however I am coming to find they might have less influence than one would think.

What you have to pay close attention to is the 144,000. They are the illuminatti. The Illuminattis only weakness becomes exposed if us outsiders can create our own collective consciousness with 144,000 people or greater. That is what this whole thing really comes down to. Thats what the fluoride and the poisons and toxins are for. They are trying to basically not let us evolve as we would naturally. However this late in the game, there is not much they can do to stop it from happening. Thats where the mass depopulation fits in.

reply to post by Elisha4Yah

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BTW the Little Horn of Daniel would be the Syrian king Antiochos IV Epiphanes (167 or 164 BC). Who sacrificed a pig onto Zevs in the outer courtyard making the whole temple unholy. This ended the daily sacrifice, but it was not even near the end in time. So a similar sacrifice will be done in the latter days, like Jeshu profess.

Not? You wouldn't have made this remark if there wasn't something you have understood... or?

reply to post by Neo Christian Mystic

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Please do correct me if I was wrong Spy, but I do believe he was talking about consciousness, a subject that many of us fail to grasp, some of us entirely, while some fall short of understanding it completely.