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Girl, 15, charged with child porn rap after posting of herself

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posted on Apr, 8 2004 @ 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by jhh
Unless the judge refuses to try her as an adult, she is going to prison. And I am sure with her being naive and not waiting for legal counsel to be present when she talked to the police, she probably doesn't have much of a case. Unless somehow they get a jury with enough sense to realize all but the distribution charge is bs.

Also, masturbation, along with anal sex, is illegal, regardless where it takes place.


In what country and do you mean for everyone?




posted on Apr, 8 2004 @ 06:13 PM
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You mean doing those things in public, and sending pictures doing the same sexual acts to others or if those pictures are placed on a public forum, much worse since the pictures are of a minor, is also illegal.

Adult sites have to take steps to make sure that no children can get access to porn, if they don't they will get charged and the site will be taken off the net.

[Edited on 8-4-2004 by Muaddib]


jhh

posted on Apr, 8 2004 @ 06:19 PM
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Well I tried looking through news search engines, but nothing within the last year except a group of florida men caught in a sears stores. But three years ago several gay men in Kansas were arrested for committing sodomy, even though there was consent and it was taking place in a private residence. This was mention by Bill Maher on Politically incorrect. So even though such stories are rare, I would still find out if some of these 1960 holdover laws are still on the books in your area.



posted on Apr, 8 2004 @ 07:14 PM
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???? Masturbation and anal sex are illegal? Any sex or exposure in public is illegal, not just masturbation and anal sex in public. But he meant it was illegal period, not in public. WTF!?! How are they illegal? I didn't know the government had the power to ban masturbation at home. Damn, I am gonna get the chair. BBBBZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!



posted on Apr, 8 2004 @ 07:23 PM
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Long time listener first time caller.

So the question remains, whose got the pics...just kidding! Nyuk!

What if she sent the pictures to other underaged people who in turn were sending other underaged people nekkid naughty pictures of themselves.

It could be a landmark case, a child pornography ring run by children. And they say the next generation is unmotivated.

Hell I'm 34 and (EDITED ..) . If had a web cam, a computer and the internet when I was fifteen I'd a sent pictures of myself (proudly) off to anyone willing to take a gander.

15 is as 15 does.

Spider


PS Love this site peoples! Great site!

[Edited on 8-4-2004 by asala]



posted on Apr, 8 2004 @ 07:35 PM
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Spider, FYI....TMI. Anyways, yes, a child porn ring ran by children. Remember, the kids are the future! And she is one of them.



posted on Apr, 8 2004 @ 07:38 PM
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Thats disgusting. Mastrubation is not ilegal in the privacy of your own home, only in public.

I would rather not have to sit by an old man mastrubating beside me in a theater.

Deep



posted on Apr, 8 2004 @ 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by John Nada
errr...this confuses me.


How can it be child pornography when she posted the pictures herself?


cuz....she's still under 18? and the pic is of her under 18?



posted on Apr, 8 2004 @ 07:51 PM
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My monkey reference has been edited...dang!

Zero deep I think we'd all rather not sit next to an old man doing anything with his pants around his ankles.

wOof.

Youth may be wasted on the young, but porn isn't.

The main question is did someone over the age of 18, knowingly ask a minor to send him (or her) photos.

If they did, then it's serious.

Horny kids sending eachother naked photos is just the technology of today meeting the hormones of youth.

Is it really more offensive than a woman volunteering to have a horse's "Howdoyado" shoved up her "yam yam" on a farm/sex website.

Probably, but I'm a big animal rights activist.



posted on Apr, 8 2004 @ 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by James the Lesser
???? Masturbation and anal sex are illegal? Any sex or exposure in public is illegal, not just masturbation and anal sex in public. But he meant it was illegal period, not in public. WTF!?! How are they illegal? I didn't know the government had the power to ban masturbation at home. Damn, I am gonna get the chair. BBBBZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!




If this is true I have just replaced Osama as Americas most wanted



posted on Apr, 8 2004 @ 09:15 PM
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Amuk, what's the reward? Anyways, with your qoute, not true. With that that does not kill you may leave you in a wheelchair, in a coma, missing a limb, blind, so forth. Sorry, been bugged by that for so long.

Anyways, how can it be child porn? She is a child, it is her. She didn't take it of others, she didn't force herself to take them. WTF?!?



posted on Apr, 8 2004 @ 10:39 PM
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I agree with JTL, it seems odd that if you snap a picture of yourself that it can be child porn. Seems like semantics from the law makers.

Bet you the prosecuting DA is a conservative.

I also bet you that the prosecuting DA has spent a lot of time examining those photos...IMHO.


If an adult took the photo then it's certainly child porn.

SPiderJ



posted on Apr, 8 2004 @ 10:54 PM
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Amuk, what's the reward? Anyways, with your qoute, not true. With that that does not kill you may leave you in a wheelchair, in a coma, missing a limb, blind, so forth. Sorry, been bugged by that for so long.



It may cripple your body but leave you stronger inside.

The toughest parts of you are the scars



posted on Apr, 8 2004 @ 10:55 PM
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well this is stupid but i see why it is in court. It is just another chance to create precident that will over time will get child porn in the door.



posted on Apr, 9 2004 @ 01:17 AM
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Here are a few facts that show, atleast IMO, why there is such confusion dealing with this topic. Also, why there are differences of opinion as to what is 'Child Pornography' and/or 'Consentual Ages' when it comes to Sexuality.


Pornography
"Pornography" is often defined to be the depiction of actual sexual activity. Nudist magazines with depictions of nude underage persons may not fall in this category and are widely available in some countries.

Note that there is a conflict between many countries' child porn laws and their age of sexual consent. For example, in the U.S. child porn defines anyone under 18, however, many states have ages of consent lower than 18. Therefore, it is legal to have sex with someone under 18 but not to take pictures of them in sexual situations. The young person is not even allowed to make such a picture of him- or herself for personal use. (Well that makes sense?!?!)


The United States of America covers all materials aimed at "prurient interests", even if no nudity is involved. In at least one case, nude pictures of small children in bath tubs have been declared to be child pornography, while in another case, females under 18 exposing their breasts has been found not to be child pornography because there was no physical contact (see Girls Gone Wild).

The UK Sexual Offences Act 2003 raised the age limit of a "child" to 18 years.

The Netherlands raised the age limit of a "child" to 18 years in October 2002.

The age limit in Germany is still 14.

Simulated Pornography
The question has arisen whether materials which appear to, but in fact do not involve actual under-age persons (for instance because adult actors or computer animation were used) should also be treated as prohibited child pornography.

The United States Supreme Court decided in 2002 that the American prohibition of simulated child pornography is unconstitutional (Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition).

Internet Pornography (How Ironic is this?)
Some sources claim that the prevalence of child pornography is much lower than generally thought, and that much or most of the material found online is actually bait deployed by law enforcement agents. The NAMBLA newsletter once warned its readers that most of the solicitations for child pornography are actually sting operations. (ah ha! Now we see the truth as to who is REALLY spreading the kiddie porn around. Not too much of a suprise IMO that the Cops/Feds are the real sicko's in the world.)

All that and more from here:
en.wikipedia.org...


Another thing everyone needs to think about is that it wasn't long ago that people were getting married at around 13 or so either. In fact, in some states and countries it is still common.


Consentual Age
Social and legal attitudes towards the appropriate age of consent have drifted upwards in modern times; while ages from ten through to thirteen were typically acceptable in the mid 19th century, fifteen through eighteen had become the norm in many countries by the end of the 20th century.

Albania: 14
Argentina: 15, though can be 12 in certain cases
Austria: 14 (as of August 13, 2002)
Canada: 14; 18 for anal sex, sex with an authority figure, prostitution or appearing in pornography. A 14 year old may have sex with another who is as young as 12. (Canada decided to be creative didn't they?!)
China: 14
Denmark: 15
Ireland: 17, 15 for lesbians and oral sex. (Creative!)
Israel: 16
Italy: 14
Japan: 13 nationwide, 16 to 18 in most prefectures (however, age of marriage for a female with parental approval is 16) (No suprise there.)
Mexico: 12, but 18 under some circumstances
South Korea: 13
Spain: 13
Sweden: 15
and last but not least, here are a few from the U.S. (Typical Age of Consent is from 16 to 18 unless otherwise noted below)
Colorado: 15/17
Iowa: 14/16
Missouri: 14/17
New Mexico: 13 homosexual, 17 heterosexual
D.C.: 16 (I found this interesting! Even the capitol itself carries a consentual age lower than many other states. California for example, which is said to be so Liberal has 18 for example. Just goes to show you how many lies and rumors there are floating around huh?!?!)

This taken from:
en.wikipedia.org...


Well, I hope this goes to show just how F*cked Up the entire Legal System is, again, and why there is a lot of different opinions by people when it comes to topics such as this.



posted on Apr, 9 2004 @ 01:58 AM
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www.ageofconsent.com...

The above site has practically every country's age of consent listed. Every state in the US is listed.



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