Palestinian rocket misfires, kills 2 girls in Gaza

reply to post by intrepid


That's probably the normal "Disclaimer" they print with articles of this sort.

Here's a little on the author of the article.

Dr. Michael C. Dunn

Experience

* Editor, The Estimate, a biweekly newsletter of intelligence and analysis of the region
* Professor and lecturer at numerous universities, including Georgetown University (1983-1991) and Utah State University (1976-1977)
* Consulted for major oil companies and defense firms

Education

* PhD, Georgetown University, 1975
* MA, Georgetown University, 1970
* BA, Georgetown University, 1969

Expertise
Countries
Egypt
Regional Issues
Regional Security
Military & Defense
Islam
Energy

And here's a link to the "biweekly newsletter", The Estimate, he's the editor of.

The Estimate

The Estimate, a biweekly newsletter on the Islamic world and its neighbors, has been published every two weeks since 1989. Its 12-page format provides political and security intelligence analysis of The Middle East and North Africa, Central and South Asia and the Caucasus. Its various departments provide background data, current assessments, risk analysis, biographical material and other information aimed at providing readers with the tools to make their own assessments. It seeks to provide an intelligence estimate, not a polemic or a political case. Click here for more.

And here's another link with info about him.

Michael Collins Dunn, Ph.D.

* A specialist in Egyptian history by training, Dr. Dunn lived in Egypt in 1972-1973 and 1977-1978. He has traveled widely in the Arab world from Morocco to Oman.

* Special interests include Middle Eastern security policy, political Islam, North Africa and Egypt, and the Gulf.

* Has written for most Middle East-oriented publications and the general press. Has appeared on most major television networks and news programs, including CNN, ABC News Nightline, NBC Today, PBS’ McNeil-Lehrer News Hour, and many others.

Seems like he SHOULD be pretty knowledgeable in this area.

[edit on 12/26/2008 by Keyhole]

reply to post by dooper


believe me i do fully understand what war is all about - to quote a phrase `war is about missions, objectives and body counts and perception of success`

total war - that being entropy based warfare hasn`t been seen since WW2 - but it will be again - destroying the `enemies` abaility to wage war both militarily and industrily and the perception of wanting to actually fight the war

Today the Jewish people make up less than two-tenths of one per cent of the global population. Nevertheless, throughout history this small group of people has disproportionately contributed to humanity and modern society in unimaginable, powerful and prominent ways. Despite the all too familiar encounters amid anti-Semitism, the Jewish people have achieved extraordinary triumph and success. Among them is a long list of innovators, thinkers, reformers, writers, artists, doctors, scientists, and entrepreneurs. Currently 157 Jews have won Nobel Prizes, over a hundred were listed in Who’s Who, and more than two hundred were represented in American Men of Science.

Meanwhile, Palestinians continue a legacy of hate mongering, child abuse, suicide bombers, assassinations, threats to wipe Jews from the face of the earth, and cowardly terrorist attacks. If they kept busy going to schools, working at jobs, loving their families and teaching them to love their neighbor, then they would not have time to make trouble.

Originally posted by GamerGal
reply to post by anonymousATS

 

So you are in the "Oh those poor Palestinians look at how they starve as they bomb a day care center killing a dozen toddlers." Well, you can feel bad for baby killers. I'll hope they all starve because they wasted more money on weapons and not food.

And the Israeli regime has never killed any innocent toddlers ?? Let me enlighten you...Israelis are also baby killers.

You really need to do get things into perspective and try not to be so biased. It is a two way street...both sides are guilty of atrocities and anyone that can not see that is just a waste of time, in my opinion.

Not all Israelis and Gazans are at fault. There are factions on both sides orchestrating these crimes against humanity. I believe that there are decent Israelis and Gazans and it is unfair to lump them all into the guilty basket.

May I ask you a question. Do you honestly, deep down in your heart, despise innocent little children from Gaza who know nothing of politics and warfare?


res

reply to post by John Matrix


and what of the 30,000 jews living in Iran? do they not count?

or are you only counting the zionists in Israel amoungst the total?

reply to post by Harlequin


You'll find Jews almost everywhere. However, I thought this thread was on Gaza and their next door neighbor, the Israelis.

Originally posted by GamerGal
reply to post by thedeadtruth

 

...Osama's attack on America...

You can not be serious? Tell me you are not serious?

Three words spring to mind - hook, line, sinker


Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny

reply to post by dooper


oh but it is - but some people seem to think israel = Judaism , whereas many countries accept Judaism and that includes Iran , wehere Jews are protected by there constitution.

reply to post by Harlequin

Well, by having 30,000 Jews in Iran, they certainly have increased the IQ of the country, as the Jews mere presence do in any country they're in.

reply to post by dooper


do i detect an amount of sarcasm


unlike many `pro west counties` and that includes the UK and USA - at least Iran protects the identity of Persian Jews - its the Zionist Jews , which MANY other jewish groups have a problem with.

you do know that Christians are treated as a third race in Israel? the recent burning of the New Testamaemt gives proof to that.

reply to post by resistancia


So you're saying what? America deserved too be attacked by OBL? Just like you feel Jewish school children deserve too be killed by the Pallies?

reply to post by GamerGal



You mean to say OBL and his Dancing Israeli henchmen! MWAHAHAH!!!!

No seriously, how did those Israelis from the 'removal company' now to be there on 9/11 with video camera whirring away? Was it to bounce the US into wars in the ME so that Israel can quietly mop up the Palestinians in Gaza without being noticed?

reply to post by John Matrix


Well excuse me for a typo. Israli/Palistine conflict.

Regardless, they are all the same, innocents are killed and the innocents are the ones who pay the price for these rediculous wars the governments start.

Why cant the governments pay the price instead of the innocents?

IF it were the governments paying the high price of war, then they would not be so willing to start war. But when innocents are the pawns of war and the ultimate sacrifices on both sides, its no problem waging war when someone else pays the price.

Pure and simple.

All the Palistine's ever wanted was a piece of land of their own. Not much to ask for is it. But instead, because of a stubborn neighbor who basically stole their land to begin with, have decided to take this nonsense conflict into decade after decade of retaliation strikes going back and forth that do not target military objectives, but civilian targets instead.

Both sides of that conflict are at fault. Hence, the conflict has no justification for either side...but the one thing that has remained constant in all of it...the innocents end up being killed.

Now I will be happy to listen to anyone who can show me that both are not at fault for killing so many innoncents who have nothing too do with the conflicts, and to show me why, for decades now, that it is the innocents who are targeted and targeted every time, on both sides.

What is the point to all of that...there is none. Attack, counter attack, and on and on and on. Who wins? No one. Who looses? The innocent civilians.

Prove me wrong.





Cheers!!!!

Originally posted by John Matrix
Meanwhile, Palestinians continue a legacy of hate mongering, child abuse, suicide bombers, assassinations, threats to wipe Jews from the face of the earth, and cowardly terrorist attacks. If they kept busy going to schools, working at jobs, loving their families and teaching them to love their neighbor, then they would not have time to make trouble.

Prove it. Show the documentation, the evidence, the undeniable and undisputable proof to that.

And show me the proof of Israli innocence while your at it.


Cheers!!!!

reply to post by Harlequin


I assure you no sarcasm was intended. I also don't think Iran shold be given a star for not persecuting Jews in their country. Lots of countries don't randomly punish Jews that live in their country.

Does anyone know if the Jews in Iran have to pay the TAX on non-Muslims?

Originally posted by GamerGal
reply to post by resistancia

 

So you're saying what? America deserved too be attacked by OBL?

I never said that America deserved to be attacked by OBL, you obviously do not understand what your are reading. Please get an education and learn to comprehend.

I am saying Osama Bin Bogeyman is not responsible for 9/11.
And that is a whole other thread.

No-one deserves to be attacked. Race, creed and colour are no excuse for killing and crimes against humanity. I will say it again...both sides are at fault.

Just like you feel Jewish school children deserve too be killed by the Pallies?

Wow, you can tell how I feel ? You really are special aren't you? When did I say that ? I did not say that and it is only your warped perception of what you think I 'feel'.

Innocent children (and adults) on both sides are being killed and it is clear to some of us in this thread that you particulary rabid in your hatred for Gazans. You are part of the generation that can shape and change the world we live in for the better. Actually if the rest of your generation (I am guessing Gen Y...make that Z) thinks like you then mankind really is a lost cause.

You are a victim of selective broadcasting and you believe the propaganda because you keep sprouting it in your posts.

res

reply to post by dooper


no they don`t , unlike Chritians in Israel who have to pay extra taxes for being non-jew.

reply to post by Harlequin


Wow so since Iran doesn't randomly murder Jews like the Pallies they deserve a star? Then I guess England, France, and America get a billion gold stars because they also don't do that, and never have.

funny how they changed the title of this article within the last 24 hours. Notice how no Israelis were hurt, but now they have killed over 120 palestinians. Yeah, i'm supposed to believe that the Palestinians bombarded israel with rockets and mortar rounds and not a soul was hurt in Israe. And the muslims attacked us on 9/11. It's called government sponsored terror. If you don't know about it, research it. Governments throughout history have been caught over and over again staging false flag, self-inflicted terror attacks against their own populations in order to legitimate and expand the elite's agenda which is unrivaled, unprecedented world domination. One of the most fascinating, historically documented examples of this is Operation Northwoods. It reveals the levels of depravity and deception that elites in recent U.S. History were willing to go to to accomplish their agenda. JFK refused to go along with it and we all know what happened to him. He fired senior officials in his administration for their treasonist plot and began planning the abolition of the CIA. Don't say that I am making this up, Google Operation Northwoods and read the unclassified government documents for yourself and stop being deceived, willing ignorant and led-astray sheep parroting the desires of your masters like brainless zombies and realize that they do not have your best interest in mind. The mexican-american border, the banker bail-out bill, the iraq war, it doesn't matter that an overwhelming majority of peasantry american citizens wanted these issues to go one way. The minority elite took their agenda the other way. This government is illegitimate and needs to be red of its cancerous corrupted officials.

Originally posted by GamerGal
reply to post by Harlequin

 

Wow so since Iran doesn't randomly murder Jews like the Pallies they deserve a star? Then I guess England, France, and America get a billion gold stars because they also don't do that, and never have.

Reading this thread a bit.... The above is one of the least accurate assertions I've ever heard. Of course Jews randomly kill civilians (unless you don't count Mossad as 'Jewish'), And there are many others. Even Begin, during the actions against the British killed many in terrorist attacks. Read a little Gamer Girl. Start with noted Israeli historians Ilam Pape and Norm Finkelstein. Get a clue. In addition, Americans, Brits and the French have long histories of random as well as targeted murder.

What planet have you been on? Do you just watch TV?