Montauk Project whats your opinion?, page 1
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reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 02:24 PM by Anonymous ATS
Research Ong's Hat as well.

There appears to be a limbo region of pseudo-reality that lies between the real and the imaginative.

Notice that only arrogant, power-mad, wealthy, resourceful, manipulative, fearful sociopaths seem to be at the head of the each one of these types of reported phenomenon (ie, CEO's in the industrial complex, high ranking generals in the military complex, corrupt politicians on Capital Hill, childish jealous frontier research scientists, fantatical self-serving UFOlogists, etc.)

This is no coincidence. There is an entity that wishes to make itself known via the human sensory apparatus and it meets mankind at the intersection of evil and death in this world.

That entity is Satan and his ilk.

As one progresses farther away from evil and death, these pseudo-realities become less tangible and less relevant. That is why the mainstream is not aware of it except via indirect or hearsay evidence.

The MIB is a particular example. They only have substance through the deceptive and corrupt three letter agencies of the government (not that they are part of that government, but that government is used as a manifestation point).

These phenomenon are further legitimized and enter our normal reality through technological portals (ie, R&D and application technology, etc).

Take away the evil that men do and you take away these reported phenomenon.

I could tell you more but then, of course, I'd have to kill you.

But here is an experiment that you can try to test my theory (at your own risk): obtain and read a copy of The Mothman Prophecies by John Keel and notice what happens to the physical realities in your surroundings and life. If you pay close attention you will see some of this stuff begin to manifest. If you don't experience at least one type of odd occurance, then you are not paying attentionm which by the way is why the entire thing is able to be pulled off in the first place: most do not pay attention.

If you want to know more, let me know via this post.


reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 02:30 PM by thisnamenotinuse
I responded as Anonymous but my post is still under review by ATS.



reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 06:36 PM by hiii_98
Originally posted by TheRealDonPedros
If you're looking to be "grounded" both of those books are definitely not ones you should be reading. On the other hand, if you're looking to redefine how you view the world around you while shaking up your boxy tunnel vision then Montauk and Mothman are great beginnings.


well that made no sense... if i want to be logical and "grounded" then i shouldnt read such books... ok i follow you. Then you conclude that i have boxy tunnel vision and to avoid this I should read those same books to be less boxy and more open aware and logical!??!

You make no sense sir. I have a rational and almost skeptical point of view whenever examing outragous claims. The fact that I even investigate those claims (IN PERSON NO LESS MIND YOU) demonstrates that I am far far from having a "boxy" view of the world. I try to have an open mind, but not so open my brains fall out. ...

I can get better stories from the local loony bin. Its up to us to uphold the ATS motto and to weed the chaft from the wheat and find the kernal of truth in the slew of maddness both on the net and in fictional books IMO.

This is no coincidence. There is an entity that wishes to make itself known via the human sensory apparatus and it meets mankind at the intersection of evil and death in this world.

That entity is Satan and his ilk
I'll be sure to keep and eye out for satan... scary guy i hear, hangs out in the local pubs and gives ppl the stink eye. Maybe i"ll look out for Odin too and Zeus while i'm at it. Or...kathulu

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reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 07:22 PM by aleon1018
David Wilcock has mentioned this book and this alleged ability through his discussions. I've yet to read it or even want to. I suppose these types of videos are about as close as I'm going to get. Still, I do prefer the science fiction shows regardless of the alleged connections. One of my favorites when I get to watch their older programs is Stargate Atlantis. Somehow the fiction makes it easier to enjoy without all of the confusing details.

www.youtube.com...

I've had my own bizarre experiences that suggest some of these things and also have my own amount of skepticism about the extent of their alleged abilities such as 'physical time travel' as in jump gates etc. Even if it's an illusion, it's still a fasinating experience. The Movie Brainstorm was for me an introduction back in the 80's. Sceince fiction has had it's way of becoming science fact to some extent.

www.youtube.com...

An illusion through similar technology could suggest time travel experiences such as was also mentioned in Total Recall.

Corso had mentioned a headpiece not too disimilar from the one shown in Brainstorm. Obviously, this can be a coincidence.

These movies may have been used as a fictional presentation to invite interest and funding as well as a source of diversion by any leaks. "You saw that in a movie" etc.

Roswell Crash alleged recovered technology:

www.youtube.com...



reply posted on 24-12-2008 @ 01:12 PM by ofhumandescent
reply to post by hiii_98

Montauk was used in the past for experiments and there was even talk of a alien presence on the base.

Possibly some alien technology came out of the Montauk Project.

Rumor has it that there was a alliance between our government and some alien group in the studying of time travel as well as mind control took place with quite a few unwilling subjects.

There was also a rumor that some kind of rip in the fabric of space and time was created there.

Camp Hero where Montauk is located is now suppose to have been abandoned for quite a few years and yet security there is heavy with both cameras and men.

If it's just an abandon old base why the heavy security?

This is another place I wouldn't go wandering around by myself alone.

Excellent link to this interesting subject.
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

To read the book, The Montauk Project go here
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

Where there's smoke there is usually fire. and this place seems to be like area 51 cloaked in secrecy.

My own suspicions are that stuff happened at Montauk that the public knows nothing about and the alien presence on our planet is / was involved.



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reply posted on 26-12-2008 @ 01:26 PM by HugmyRek
reply to post by hiii_98



Oh, I see. I was confusing your talk of Montauk with what I found interesting about what I heard of the survivors of Philidelphia Experiement.



I would like nothing more than to believe in all this, it just really seems too much to me and as if the most paranoid of the conspiracy nuts concocted the mother of all conspiracies, rolled into one goverment project. I think i'm alone in this conclusion...


However, if Montauk is an extention of the Philidelphia experiement, and you found what you considered to be somewhat credible testimony there and similar testimony in Montauk, it follows that there may be similarities in the experiences of those people.

My opinion affects only me. It's not going to change the world and I'm not going to go running errands for others to prove why it is valid for me or should be concievable for them--especially when (see paragraph sentence one): It seems you want to argue your conclusion from behind the veiled 'want to believe'-and yet your conclusion is immovable as proved by each following response; And my interest is weak willed at best. I do however entertain the concept that the experiences of the survivors of the boat experiement, called the Philidelphia experiment, in time stalling, as...entertainable.
It is your research project-enjoy!

What is your definition of credible? It's funny, everyone wants credible to define their assessments, yet there is no universal definition, and even when there is a concenus, there is an aguement as to why the 'credible' is not.

I don't care anyway-It's never going to go anywhere. Even Roswell is still argued in fact and fiction.

It seemed you wondered 'what others' think" of all the phenomenal associated.

I have told you. I believe it is feasible.

Stating something 'seems' is not stating something 'is'. It 'seems' there were witnesses to Philidelphia. Did you find them credible? Apparently there was an after affect and testing of time stalling. Is this common knowledge. Do you need me to chase the link if it is?

So, your request that I provide you with witnesses to Montauk, when I spoke of as to the witnesses that are to my knowledge referenced in the Philidelphia experiment-is moot. Same technology set, different test series.

Why wouldn't it follow that one is related to the other in deciding the possibility that these effects exist, when you will never find the proof you are looking for in the first place, and are stating you think it is all way to out there to be believable in the first place?

I commend you on your reading a book on a subject matter that you don't think is possilbe. I would find that REALLY hard@!

Good day


reply posted on 26-12-2008 @ 06:01 PM by hardcoremusiclover
reply to post by hiii_98



Im curious about montauk also. I will be doing research tonight and will mostlikely post back with what I have learned.


After watching all 9 parts of the montauk interview, I feel enlightened.

I belived almost all of it up untill where he talks about "throwing" the greys into showers, and spraying lysol on them, which got them drunk. And the reptillians drinking drano to get "drunk"

So Im not sure anymore..

Definitly watch it, it was worth the hour and a half of my life.

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