Madoff, Banking Bailout and the Mob?, page 1
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Topic started on 23-12-2008 @ 11:03 AM by Crakeur
As I've been rather preoccupied with the madoff mess thanks to my connection to this via clients who've been bilked, I have spent quite a bit of time trying to find information on the case and on some of the players I've had contact with. My clients' family dealt with Frank Dipascali. He was their investment manager. In other words, they were being swindled by Madoff's right hand man. So, I did some digging on this guy who has been evasive with the feds so far. He's lawyered up and hasn't been saying much of anything yet, when anyone asked, they'd say nothing happened without talking to Frank first. Frank and Bernie controlled access to the 17th floor. The 17th floor was the floor where Bernie and Frank and 8 others worked. Everyone there was related to Madoff, except Frank. Odd, right?

Well, here's an interesting blog that might shed some light on it.

www.talkingpointsmemo.com...

Frank pushes phony equities and his wife writes worthless mortgages


The checks my clients received from Madoff over the years were drawn on a chase account. Frank's wife worked at chase.

Frank's wife is from Howard Beach, New York. This is one of those areas where there's a heavy mafia residence. Is it possible that Madoff was in with the Mob?

The blog linked above raises some rather interesting points.

The US Attorney General removed himself from the case as his son, Marc Mukasey, was representing DiPascali. Marc Mukasey and his dad have very close ties to Rudy Giuliani. Rudy was well known as the man who went after the mob when he was in the US Attorney's office. Giuliani was, publicly, a mob enemy but, is it possible, he was connected to the mob?
Rudy's business partner and former top NYC cop, Bernard Kerik, has been linked to the mob and has fallen from grace, taking "gifts" from a jersey construction company among his many crimes. Then there's this blog regarding Rudy and a slip-up regarding his "family."

moreyetitrouble.blogspot.com...

Sure, it's reaching but, given the history of the mafia in NYC, is it not possible that Rudy was connected and his long time friends the Mukaseys are also connected, thus, Marc Mukasey is representing mob connected Frank DiPascali?

It wouldn't surprise me one bit to see the mafia linked to this. They've been linked to wall street scams for years.

www.wallstreetscandals.com...

why wouldn't they continue to operate in an arena where the profits were there for the taking?


reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 11:49 AM by Crakeur
reply to post by marg6043



as I mentioned in another thread, the 25 clients was hogwash. he listed them in his financials but the feds think he might have had thousands of clients. I know of ten clients (not including the ones being mentioned in the papers). The MSNBC show last night had interviews with several other clients. He was lying about everything.

They're saying this will impact everything from charitable donations to the real estate market. People put their madoff investments up as collateral for loans. The collateral is gone, the loans are at risk of being called.

January will be an interesting month for sure.



reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 12:19 PM by Crakeur
reply to post by marg6043



I've read in several articles that Madoff's phony transaction date back about 30 years. That would put him ten years ahead of the crash. When I say phony transactions I mean just that. he was reporting pages of transactions to each client, every month. I spot checked a few transactions and found the price on the statement to be outside the boundaries of the trading for that day.

In plain terms, Madoff says he bought a stock on November 12th for $34.90 but the stock traded no higher than $32.25 on that day. Thus, the transaction was fraudulent.

According to the reports, he hasn't been trading in years. He's been reporting trades but they never actually ocurred.


reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 02:08 PM by warpboost
Originally posted by Crakeur
Well, here's an interesting blog that might shed some light on it.

www.talkingpointsmemo.com...




I found the second to last paragraph of the above link very interesting



For what its worth, information about the Dipascalis is fast disappearing from Google.


When I read your post not knowing anything about the Dipascali guy I googled his name and couldn't find very much on or even a picture


reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 03:06 PM by Crakeur
reply to post by jimmyx



the french guy. That Seth dude's story is very interesting in the soft core porn movie of the week kind of way



reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 03:58 PM by Crakeur
reply to post by marg6043



JP Morgan isn't going to be linked to the scam. Madoff had an account with them, which he used to issue checks to his investors. He had a couple of accounts with Bank of America as well. As far as I know, that's the extent of their involvement.


reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 05:13 PM by smokehouseslim
reply to post by Crakeur


Of course that rat bastard Giuliani was connected & its a wonder they didn't do a Robert Kennedy on his stinking rotund ass, but he was to big of a public figure there in N.Y. & they didn't want to have to go through what Giancana went through with those stinking Kennedys. "Big" Paul Castellano wasn't just whacked because Gotti & Sammy "TheBull" wanted to take over, Giuliani put out the word that Castellano was gonna rat out & its a known fact that he wasn't. Sure he was in custody by the Feds but they had him & he wasn't talking he was just gonna let the chips fall where they may. But you have to understand that a majority of N.Y.'s law enforcement including the D.A.'s office & Judges were on the take at the time. They had everyone from higher ups in legal postions locally to janitors in Courthouses to street vendors in front of police stations & courthouses covered, words could & would get back to Stodt hill & to Little Italy. I just saw on the news where one of the Investors was just found dead of an alleged suicide...Yeah right, & I wanna sell ya the old Yankee Stadium.
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