Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by free_spirit
My name is Ted *SNIP* NARCAP exec director, and I will happily engage this matter for the benefit of the anonymous poster Free_spirit who seems to
think he knows more than he does about our methods and our motives.
[edit on 5-1-2009 by NGC2736]
First of all how do we know you are indeed Ted Roe from NARCAP?
You didn’t provide a link for any investigation, image or even your
own website in your statement.
Second. For your information I know more of this case that you can
imagine, from the original sources.
Now let’s proceed to the subject. I contacted Mexican tv journalist
Jaime Maussan and asked him if he could care to make a comment
in response to Ted Roe’s statement on ATS regarding the Mexican
Air Force UFO case. Jaime Maussan agreed and sent me his response
authorizing me to be posted here.
STATEMENT FROM JAIME MAUSSAN IN RESPONSE TO TED ROE
January 6, 2009
Open letter to the community.
Ted Roe from NARCAP is lying regarding the case of the Campeche Ufo´s recorded by the Mexican Air Force, in March 5 2004.
First of all he is saying that he and Richard Haines were invited to attend a Press Conference and asked to support the case, which is not true. They
were invited to come to México to review and analyse the case, which they never did.
I repeat I never ask to back this case but to participate in the investigation
They had been in México, they were not here at the moment.
I send them the tape in full, not edited or manipulated, as he claims. All the information is inside the image recorded by the Flir, The information
of the radar was just in the airplane from the Sedena, was not provided to me.
It seems that NARCAP doesn´t know that the information provided by this kind of airplanes is restricted.
He claims that he didn’t assist to the Press Conference because we could damage his image, the information came from the Mexican Air Force, not from
I don´t know Ted Roe, and I dont know why he is lying about everything in this case, and he does this after 5 years. It seems NARCAP felt affected
like many others who weren´t provided first with the most important video tape ever released by a National Air Force of any country.
Mr. Ted Roe considers the investigation done by Alejandro Franz as the answer to the evidence, but he does this without doing any investigation, how
he knows Alejandro Franz is right?
National Geographic and Alejandro Franz never flew over the area were the UFOS were recorded, they never did over the same altitude, or use the same
kind of camera.
The investigation made was not just poor but also false. It’s is bussines as usual. In the US many consider that mexicans are ignorant poor and
unable to make credible investigations around a phenomenum that just belongs to them.
I am sorry about Ted Roe and my friend Richard Haines, I am sorry that they did not get involved in this fascinating case, I am sorry if now 5 years
later they still feel affected by not have participated in this. They were invited, they refused for any reason when they had the duty to get involved
in an investigation as important as this one.
(End of message)
Some facts are clear now. Ted Roe didn’t met Jaime Maussan in May 2004 and
was not at the press conference when the Air Force UFO case was released. In
fact Jaime Maussan has never met Ted Roe and never heard of him till now, only knew Richard Haines from NARCAP. According to a personal email from Ted
Roe that I have received from one of my sources he was in Mexico City in March – April 2004 attending some meetings with pilots and air traffic
nobody told him about this March 5 UFO incident involving a military airplane
over the Campeche aerial space, nobody told him because nobody knew about
this case yet, it was kept secret by the Air Force and the DoD at that time, then
Ted Roe is lying claiming he knew about it before the worldwide release in May.
Let’s see now the alleged “evidence” that Ted Roe claims was presented by
mexican debunker Alejandro Franz on the National Geographic television program Is it Real? UFOS, supposed “evidence” that both Roe and Franz
claim prove the 11 luminous objects filmed by the FLIR camera aboard the
Air Force plane were just oil well flames from the Cantarell oil plataforms.
THE HOAX BY MEXICAN DEBUNKER ALEJANDRO FRANZ EXPOSED
These are three images from the video taken by debunker Alejandro Franz with
his videocamera through a window of the airplane he and National Geographic
rented to supposedly make a recreation of the March 5, 2004 Air Force flight when the UFO incident happened. According to National Geographic the
of this flight was to replicate the same conditions and scenario to confirm if those
lights recorded by the Air Force FLIR camera were indeed oil flames from Cantarell. The attempted recreation or replica resulted a complete fiasco but
only that, both National Geographic and Alejandro Franz committed a fraud as I
will prove here now.
National Geographic TV Show: Is it Real? UFOS
Alejandro Franz take the tv crew to the actual location over the Campeche aerial
space where the Air Force incident took place in order to prove his theory of the
oil well falmes. FALSE. Alejandro Franz took the tv crew aboard the rented airplane to the ocean more than 100 miles away from the sighting location
placed the airplane directly above the oil platform, took some video with a
conventional videocamera through the window and claimed this was what the
FLIR camera recorded that day.
Exhibit 1, 2 and 3. The images above the oil platform, in the ocean.
Exhibit 4. Mexican debunker Alejandro Franz filming the oil platform with a
conventional videocamera in order to perpetrate a hoax.
RESUME: National Geographic Television and debunker Alejandro Franz never
made a legitimate recreation flight nor a replica in any way. They didn’t placed
the rented airplane over the exact location of the sighting at any time, they went
to the ocean 100 miles away to get some shots of an oil platform and created a false story to debunk the Mexican Air Force UFO case. Conclusion:
National Geographic Television along with debunker Alejandro Franz rented a
small commercial airplane WITH NO FLIR camera to perform the promised
recreation flight. With no FLIR camera the recreation is simply dismissed since
one of the main elements, the infrared camera is not available, how can you
prove a FLIR camera can detect oil well flames at a distance if you are not
doing the test with a FLIR camera? Simply ridiculous. Conclusion: Fraud.
The failed debunk planned by mexican Alejandro Franz proved to be just a
cheap naive attempt with no solid grounds, this guy Alejandro Franz has never
and will never prove his tale, not even with a legitimate aiplane equipped with
a FLIR camera and flying all over Campeche. Franz failed on the National
Geographic program and will fail again in his fantasy.
Debunker Alejandro Franz also ignored many elements of this case because those would destroy his theater, elements like the radar readings reported
the official inform and testimonials of the operator, readings that revealed their airplane was surrounde by the objects at certain moment and the
audio from the
FLIR confirms this fact. This element and many others were conveniently ignored and dismissed by debunker Franz when confronted. But the major
failiure of his
scheme was ironically the National Geographic 2006 tv show where he exposed
himself committing a fraud by pretending to deceive with a false recreation of the
March 5, 2004 incident. I’m not making this up, I’m not exaggerating anything, I’m
not slandering like Ted Roe mentioned. The evidences are there for anybody to
see in the National Geographic September 2006 program.
FINAL CONCLUSION: One has to wonder why Ted Roe who works for NARCAP
who supports the pilots and air traffic controllers that make UFO reports all over the world now is sponsoring and vouching this Alejandro Franz who
has been attacking all the mexican pilots, commercial and military for reporting their UFO
sightings, ridiculizing them by saying they are dumb, ignorant and fools etc.
Isn’t it ironic Mr. Roe?
One has to wonder why Ted Roe from NARCAP praises National Geographic
Television when is well known that National Geographic Television is a skeptic
network who has never validated a single UFO case, has never given a reasonable doubt to a single UFO case they have presented, in one word they
have debunked UFOS all the time and in some cases by using disinformation
like in this Air Force case from Mexico. Ironic Mr. Roe.
It’s clear to me that Ted Roe’s motives to debunk the mexican Air Force UFO
case and discredit the mexican DoD UFO Disclosure obey strictly to a conflict
of interest for the reasons exposed. Clear as Water.