Originally posted by greshnik
Thanks for excellent topic. I don't believe, I KNOW that no human ever landed on the Moon. I don't need to discuss that with anybody any more.
Therefore, this question is justified: "nuclear" bombs are a mistery. I appreicate if this continues as a scientific discussion, and I will really appreciate if nobody insults the author any more...there are thousands of topics here about aliens and nobody gets insulted. As soon as real stuff gets touched, there is a bunch of "defenders" who jump on the topic and ridicule the author(s).
It is so predictable..and I know it cannot be changed, as it is the nature of the business. But, not too many people read this, so please leave it alone unless you are really interested in DISCUSSING, not destroying the topic.

Thank you.

Originally posted by TruthWithin
I am certain that a few hundred thousand Japanese would beg to differ with your postulation. Are they obfuscators?

Originally posted by mattifikation
Relax, Kyo.

All you can do sometimes is say your piece, and hope the sensible will listen. When somebody comes around convinced that nuclear bombs don't exist because they think the explosion is just "the sun coming up," you should realize right off the bat that you are never going to get anywhere with them.

Originally posted by violenttorrent
greshnik Thank you

AboveTopSecret is the most popular conspiracy forum on the web, therefore it is bound to attract the attention of the "authorities." It is becoming increasingly obvious that there are legions of paid bloggers whose job it is to mud-sling and obfuscate. Anyone who joins this forum legitimately is likely to be open-minded given the nature of the site. Posters who are immediately dismissive are probably here for a reason. They do not engage in real debate. Calling an argument "laughable" is a simplistic psytactic. Suggesting that this subject is unworthy and should be ranked among "skunk works" is petty obfuscation. They'd say that about the moon landing if it weren't already common knowledge that it was faked.

Operatives have game plans as to how to deter and manipulate - it's their job.

The "nuclear bomb" footage speaks for itself, so they stay away from arguing in favor of it being legitimate. They steer the "debate" in an impossible-to-argue direction - that of pseudo-scientific claims, which are unprovable by anyone.

Originally posted by violenttorrent
The Sun Is Real - that's my point. What kind of honest forum poster recommends the following: "Honestly threads like this, really bring down ATS as there are plenty of real subjects to discuss and learn from." You, sir, are attempting to quell free speech. What type of person opposes free speech? An obfuscator, an operative.

While people who object to the possibility that nuclear bombs might not exist are entitled to their opinions, people who are adamantly militant about the fact that they *must* exist cast suspicion upon themselves.

letthereaderunderstand, who is obviously one of a few real posters on this thread, has made exactly the same relevant point that I wanted to put forth for this thread: The footage of nuclear/atomic test explosions is obviously fake. Why?