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Originally posted by TruthWithin
I am certain that a few hundred thousand Japanese would beg to differ with your postulation. Are they obfuscators?
Originally posted by KyoZero
yes...they exist...I worked on them...as I said...there is no way to fit that much conventional explosive to get that yield into a device that small...I think the argument is ridiculous
Originally posted by mattifikation
Q: What do forum trolls, dumb questions, and nuclear bombs all have in common?
A: They all exist.
This is one of those times where logic will always fail to win the argument, because nothing can be proven beyond all possible doubt. Even if somebody came on to this forum who had personally constructed a nuclear weapon and tested it themselves, the OP could call them a liar and "nullify" that person's argument, by his standards.
In fact, the OP has already "debunked" any and all arguments against his theory with the immediate blanket dismissal of all refuting statements as "lying" or "ignorance," regardless of their sources, accuracy, display of evidence, or detail.
Such people, who attempt such arguments, are best left to wallow in their own ignorance until the end of time. The effort we'd put into debating them would be better spent educating a dozen intelligent, normal people.
You would all literally accomplish more by writing a letter to your representative asking them to create legislation to reduce the nuclear stockpile than you would by responding to the sheer ignorant muck that is this thread.
[edit on 27-12-2008 by mattifikation]
Originally posted by ShatteredSkies
reply to post by letthereaderunderstand
Why bother arguing with you?
You're not going to believe anything anyone tells you because you yourself haven't witnessed it first-hand, so any first-hand testimony is moot in your opinion.
Anned has already come forth, why should he lay down his personal credentials to satisfy YOUR needs? It is widely accepted through the majority of Earth's population that nuclear weapons are REAL.(Ask anyone on the streets on their opinion on nuclear weapons, take a survey even, see how many DON'T believe in them.)
The Tsar bomba was rated at approximately 65 megatons, it was dropped from a Soviet Tu-95 Bear bomber specifically modified for that mission. There are photos of it on the internet.
But those photos are of course doctored, that the Soviets had absolutely no reason to detonate the largest nuclear device in human history. The nuclear weapons the US detonated over Bikini islands is also manufactured, forget about the hundreds of thousands of natives on those islands that were displaced.
It is totally UP TO YOU to believe in this ignorant filth. There is no purpose in this thread other than to encourage arrogance and dumify (for lack of a better term) any attempt at education.
So far good sir, you have provided a weak argument to the contrary.
There are treaties designed to limit nuclear stockpiles, why would so much money and time be put into something that doesn't exist in the PUBLIC political arena? Why did we fight the better part of 4 decades of a cold war? To make people scared of something that didn't exist?
Tell the submariners on the Ohio Class boomers that nukes aren't real, see what their response to that is.
Originally posted by eyeforalie
My great uncle was on a military ship about 60 mi off site from a test blast in the 60's. Within 15 yeas he had no teeth. He was 37. When he asked the military for help they denied him ever serving. Hes long dead. thousands of $$ in medical bills fighting radiation....They are real...Thread over.