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Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?

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posted on Jan, 7 2009 @ 08:12 AM
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Highspeed stuff man.

Did you suffer any ill effects? Just asking from a not-knowing standpoint.

I had a buddy who was in the AF for a while who guarded silos somewhere in the states.




posted on Jan, 7 2009 @ 10:57 AM
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Could you clarify ill effects?

mental? physical? From what...the radiation?

I haven't myself...lots of migraines though from time to time...that may be stress :-p

Funf fact

The 2W2 career field ha a high incidence of males impregnating their wives with twin girls...weird

-Kyo



posted on Jan, 7 2009 @ 11:10 AM
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That's interesting, are you telling me that I need to become a 2W2 if I want twin girls?

Hmmm, I might take that into consideration, Army or Air Force?

Shattered OUT...



posted on Jan, 7 2009 @ 12:54 PM
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Air Force

heh it's a cool little thing to bring up once in a while...here's another one

Did you know -70 degrees farenheit existed? I didn't until North Dakota

-Kyo



posted on Jan, 7 2009 @ 02:21 PM
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I think the OP packed up his little video and took it home.
Anyone notice he's been quiet as a field mouse lately?

Maybe continually running into a wall of reality, made him rethink his hypothesis



posted on Jan, 7 2009 @ 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by violenttorrent
The Sun Is Real - that's my point. What kind of honest forum poster recommends the following: "Honestly threads like this, really bring down ATS as there are plenty of real subjects to discuss and learn from." You, sir, are attempting to quell free speech. What type of person opposes free speech? An obfuscator, an operative.

While people who object to the possibility that nuclear bombs might not exist are entitled to their opinions, people who are adamantly militant about the fact that they *must* exist cast suspicion upon themselves.

letthereaderunderstand, who is obviously one of a few real posters on this thread, has made exactly the same relevant point that I wanted to put forth for this thread: The footage of nuclear/atomic test explosions is obviously fake. Why?


It's not a matter of quelling free speech- it's a matter of highlighting asinine speech. If one's argument is based upon disproving a negative, then I filter out anything else they have to say, as they're intellectually lazy, and wasting my time.

[edit on 7-1-2009 by BlueRaja]



posted on Jan, 7 2009 @ 04:03 PM
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Yeah, I guess I was getting at radiation - but it's good you didn't get any of those side effects. I heard back in the day there was a lot of that when the nukes were still new, but I guess that was to be expected.

Twin girls, huh? That is weird.



posted on Jan, 7 2009 @ 04:13 PM
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I wonder if I could go out in the desert where the nuclear bomb blast turn the sand to glass. Then I could collect the glass and sell it on the internet as jewelry, if I could get all of it I could corner the market, you know it would just be novelty thing.
Anyone want to back me, we will go 50/50 or ok 60/40 split.



posted on Jan, 7 2009 @ 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by googolplex
I wonder if I could go out in the desert where the nuclear bomb blast turn the sand to glass. Then I could collect the glass and sell it on the internet as jewelry, if I could get all of it I could corner the market, you know it would just be novelty thing.
Anyone want to back me, we will go 50/50 or ok 60/40 split.


The glass is probably kind of ugly. You can't just melt sand and expect to have something that would look good set in jewelry. Perhpas the novelty alone would sell it, but then there's probably fear that it's still radioactive working against you. You'd really have to check how radioactive the glass is before making a call. My guess is not very.



posted on Jan, 7 2009 @ 05:04 PM
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The glass they found in arab desert was a nice green but that was from cosmic event. I don't think the glass from nuclear blast is ugly, it depends on how pure the sand was. Question would be how well glass retains radiation. I know where I'm at they are dumping the radioactive water of Fermi 1 meld down into river, it's kind of nice though cause if you get up to get a drink of water at night you don't have to turn light on.



posted on Jan, 7 2009 @ 05:41 PM
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Talked about here...
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jan, 7 2009 @ 05:44 PM
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Yes mazzroth, but discussed in GREATER detail, HERE.

(Not a one liner)

Shattered OUT...



posted on Jan, 7 2009 @ 05:52 PM
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I think the people of the the Marshall Islands believe nuclear weapons are real. Here's an excerpt from this book:

Early in the morning of March 1, 1954, sometime around five or six o'clock, American planes dropped a hydrogen bomb on Bikini Atoll. Shortly before this happened, I had awakened and stepped out of my house. After only a few minutes had passed we saw a light to the west of Rongelap Atoll. When this light reached Rongelap we saw many beautiful colors. I expect the reason people didn't go inside their houses right away was because the yellow, green, pink, red, and blue colors which they saw were such a beautiful sight before their eyes.

The second thing that happened involved the gust of wind that came from the explosion. The wind was so hot and strong that some people who were outside staggered. Even some windows fell as a result of the wind.

The third thing that happened concerned the smoke-cloud which we saw from the bomb blast. The smoke rose quickly to the clouds and as it reached them we heard a sound louder than thunder. When people heard this deafening clap some of the women and children fled to the woods. Once the sound of the explosion had died out everyone began cooking, some made donuts and others cooked rice.

Later some men went fishing, including myself. Around nine or ten-o'clock I took my throw net and left to go fishing near Jabwon. As I walked along the beach I looked at the sky and saw it was white like smoke; nevertheless I kept on going. When I reached Jabwon, or even a little before, I began to feel a fine powder falling all over my body and into my eyes. I felt it but I didn't know what it was.

I went ahead with my fishing and caught enough fish with my throw-net to fill a bag. Then I went to the woods to pick some coconuts. I came back to the beach and sat on a rock to drink the coconuts and eat some raw fish. As I was sitting and eating, the powder began to fall harder. I looked out and saw that the coconuts had changed color. By now all the trees were white as well as my entire body. I gazed up at the sky but couldn't see the clouds because it was so misty. I didn't believe this was dangerous. I only knew that powder was falling. I was somewhat afraid nevertheless.

When I returned to Rongelap village I saw people cooking food outside their cook-houses. They didn't know the powder was very dangerous. The powder fell all day and night long over the entire atoll of Rongelap. During the night people were sick. They were nauseous, they had stomach, head, ear, leg and shoulder aches. People did not sleep that night because they were sick.

The next day, March 2, 1954, people got up in the morning and went down to get water. It had turned a yellowish color. "Oh, Oh" they cried out and said "the powder that fell down yesterday and last night is a harmful thing." They were sick and so Jabwe, the health-aide, walked around in the morning and warned the people not to drink the water. He told them that if they were thirsty to drink coconuts only.

. . . At three o'clock in the afternoon of March 2, 1954 a seaplane from Enewetak Atoll landed in the lagoon of Rongelap and two men came ashore. Billiet and I asked them why they had come to Rongelap and they responded by saying they had come to inspect the damage caused by the bomb. They said they would spend twenty minutes looking at all the wells, cement water catchments, houses and other things. The two men returned quickly to their plane and left without telling anyone that the food, water, and other things were harmful to human beings.

More of the book talks about how the vast number of birth defects and deaths over the following years and how they all had to leave. I don't think TNT has this sort of health impact.



posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 10:51 AM
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Here's a good video of a Naval Nuclear test.

www.wetasschronicles.com...



posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 09:41 PM
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My mother's side of the family comes from hiroshima.

Yes nuclear bombs do exist.



posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 03:12 AM
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I did a little research and happened to find out the both Hiroshima and Nagasaki both have active volcano's.

Here is the Nagasaki Volcano who's last eruption was in 1991.



I figured out why we need to have the appearance of Nuclear Weapons and why every other country goes along with it. I believe they fool us, so that there will never be another world war by saying it would "end us all". I can respect that only I think our governments have forgotten the importance of that.

I also checked out War Games from 1983 and I found it to be funny that the computer that controls all of the weapons systems in the movie is called the W.O.P.R.....The Whopper....lol. I'm asking "Wheres the Beef?"

Peace


[edit on 9-1-2009 by letthereaderunderstand]



posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 04:51 AM
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Check out the following article from infowars: www.infowars.com...

LTRU Now we know who we're dealing with: as I suspected, military operatives. You guys don't have the balls to risk living outside the system.



posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 05:40 AM
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I am afraid so, that they excist.
Sadly, I do wish they didnt



posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 06:59 AM
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I am going to be posting the "Witnesses" of Hiroshima blasts testimonies, which are not a lot weird enough. I can only find maybe 10 on any given site. The population of Hiroshima was 350,000 the day the "bomb" was dropped. Should we not have thousands of testimonies? Search yourselves and see.

I would like people to read the ones I will be posting and ask yourself, who talks like this, and why are they packing so much non-important emotionally charged rhetoric into their testimonies.

These testimonies do not sound like normal people telling their stories instead, They sound concocted and overly dramatic.

And why do no Japanese blame the Americans for what they did? They instead, blame "mankind" so that all of mankind learns this important lesson. Are you kidding? A country supposedly drops a bomb that kills most your family and it is mankind's fault?


Testimony of Hiroshi Sawachika

Mr. Hiroshi Sawachika was 28 years old when the bomb was dropped. He was an army doctor stationed at the army headquarters in Ujina. When he was exposed, he was inside the building at the headquarters, 4.1 km from the hypocenter. Being rather far from the hypocenter, he was not seriously injured. Afterwards, he was very busy getting medical treatment to the survivors.

MR. SAWACHIKA: I was in my office. I had just entered the room and said "Good morning." to colleagues and I was about to approach my desk when outside it suddenly turned bright red. I felt very hot on my cheeks. Being the chief of the room, I shouted to the young men and women in the room that they should evacuate.

As soon as I cried, I felt weightless as if I were an astronaut
. I was then unconscious for 20 or 30 seconds. When I came to, I realized that everybody including myself was lying at one side of the room. Nobody was standing. The desks and chairs had also blown off to one side. At the windows, there was no window glass and the window frames had been blown out as well. I went to the windows to find out where the bombing had taken place. And I saw the mushroom cloud over the gas company. The sound and shock somehow suggested that the bomb had been dropped right over the gas company.

I still had no idea what had happened. And I kept looking towards the gas company. After a while, I realized that my white shirt was red all over. I thought it was funny because I was not injured at all. I looked around and then realized that the girl lying near by was heavily injured, with lots of broken glass stuck all over her body. Her blood had splashed and made stains on my shirt. In a few minutes, I heard my name called. I was told to go to the headquarters where there were lots of injured persons waiting. I went there and I started to give treatment with the help of nurses and medical course men. We first treated the office personnel for their injuries. Most of them had broken glass and pieces of wood stuck into them. We treated them one after another.

Afterwards, we heard the strange noise. It sounded as if a large flock of mosquitoes were coming from a distance. We looked out of the window to find out what was happening. We saw that citizens from the town were marching towards us. They looked unusual. We understood that the injured citizens were coming towards us for treatment. But while, we thought that there should be Red Cross Hospitals and another big hospitals in the center of the town. So why should they come here, I wondered, instead of going there. At that time, I did not know that the center of the town had been so heavily damaged. After a while, with the guide of the hospital personnel, the injured persons reached our headquarters. With lots of injured people arriving, we realized just how serious the matter was. We decided that we should treat them also. Soon afterwards, we learned that many of them had badly burned. As they came to us, they held their hands aloft. They looked like they were ghosts.

We made the tincture for that treatment by mixing edible peanut oil and something. We had to work in a mechanical manner in order to treat so many patients. We provided one room for the heavily injured and another for the slightly injured. A treatment was limited to the first aid because there were no facilities for the patients to be hospitalized. Later on, when I felt that I could leave the work to other staff for a moment, I walked out of the treatment room and went into the another room to see what had happened.

When I stepped inside, I found the room filled with the smell that was quite similar to the smell of dried squid when it has been grilled. The smell was quite strong. It's a sad reality that the smell human beings produce when they are burned is the same as that of the dried squid when it is grilled. The squid - we like so much to eat. It was a strange feeling, a feeling that I had never had before. I can still remember that smell quite clearly.

Afterwards, I came back to the treatment room and walked through the roads of people who were either seriously injured or waiting to be treated. When I felt someone touch my leg, it was a pregnant woman. She said that she was about to die in a few hours. She said, "I know that I am going to die. But I can feel that my baby is moving inside. It wants to get out of the room. I don't mind if I had died. But if the baby is delivered now, it does not have to die with me. Please help my baby live."

There were no obstetricians there. There was no delivery room. There was no time to take care of her baby. All I could do was to tell her that I would come back later when everything was ready for her and her baby. Thus I cheered her up and she looks so happy. But I have to return to the treatment work. So I resumed to work taking care of the injured one by one.

There were so many patients. I felt as if I was fighting against the limited time. It was late in the afternoon towards the evening. And image of that pregnant woman never left my mind. Later, I went to the place where I had found her before, she was still there lying in the same place. I patted her on the shoulder, but she said nothing. The person lying next to her said that a short while ago, she had become silent. I still recalled this incident partly because I was not able to fulfill the last wish of this dying young woman. I also remember her because I had a chance to talk with her however short it was.

INTERVIEWER: How many patients did you treat on August 6?

ANSWER: Well, at least 2 or 3 thousand on that very day if you include those patients whom I gave directions to. I felt that as if once that day started, it never ended. I had to keep on and on treating the patients forever. It was the longest day of my life. Later on, when I had time to reflect on that day, I came to realize that we, doctors learned a lot through the experience, through the suffering of all those people. It's true that the lack of medical knowledge, medical facilities, integrated organization and so on prevented us from giving sufficient medical treatment. Still there was a lot for us, medical doctors to learn on that day. I learned that the nuclear weapons which gnaw the minds and bodies of human beings should never be used. Even the slightest idea using nuclear arms should be completely exterminated the minds of human beings. Otherwise, we will repeat the same tragedy. And we will never stop being ashamed of ourselves.


One doctor treated 2 to 3 THOUSAND patients in one day? This guy is some kind of superman, not to mention he felt weightless like an astronaut in 1945.



posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by violenttorrent
They didn't need to fit TNT into a warhead, just like they didn't need to add extra jet fuel to the 911 planes - because they could have planted explosives on the ground in Hiroshima, just like they planted explosives in the WTC.

Why do all the naysayers insist on keeping their minds closed to the mere possibility that nuclear bombs might not exist? If I were to suggest the possibility that the Federal Reserve were a private bank, would you tell me that is an impossibility? They lied about WWI&II, they lied about JFK and the moon landing, they lied about AIDS and SARS and polio and bird flu, they lied about Iraq, they lied about the recent bailouts - why the f0ck wouldn't they lie about nuclear bombs??

And to the poster who suggested I copied this idea out of some book - I've never heard of that book, and I thought this up on my own.

Before anybody replies - Please watch my short movie www.youtube.com... and comment on the footage. None of the replies so far have even mentioned the footage. Regardless of what you think - the footage is fake.


Sounds like you are deflecting here, by bringing up more conspiracies.
Watched your video and it was rather uninteresting. What is your
background that qualifies you to make such remarks.

Also, you stated in your 2nd post that you read a thread 2 or three
years ago about this. Then in this thread claim to have come up this
all on your own and certainly not from a book. So which is it? Dd you
come up with this all on your own or did you get the idea elsewhere
and run with it? You even mentioned that the original thread received
a barrage statements that go against what you say.

Get back under the bridge.

Here's a Twilight Zone Premise:
violenttorrent wakes up in a Hiroshima and is baffled by how he got
there. He picks up a newspaper and see's the date, "August 6th 1945".
Gulp...







 
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