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reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 05:27 PM by muzzleflash
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it is totally possible its just VERY UNLIKELY heh

know what im sayin?


reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 05:32 PM by BornPatriot
good thread and thanks moderators for not locking it.... DEW is a sore subject on most 911 websites. even though their is ample evidence that an advanced weapon was used on 911 to vaporize steel... "without heating it" just like Judy says - a means to alter the molecular structure of metal -
or matter -
The Hutchinson effect is quite interesting - however, the people running the show ... well, they were advanced enough 5,000 years ago to encode computer codes into the Tora and the Koran ... I found it interesting that the Koran kept popping up over and over again as the evidence mounted against the muslims actually doing 911... I mean Mohammad Atta must have been a Koran Salesmen he left so many of these books around... so it is clear it was a total setup.... and we have 100K$ from Pakistan to Atta and then we have Atta calling his father on Sept 12th saying he is alive and well.
I wonder how much time Atta has to spend in hiding for his 100K... seems cheap for 3200 american lives... so, he is a patsy ... a red herring ...
--
Now the evidence of a DEW is a 70 story spire of steel that goes poof... I thought about it for a while and it dawned on me that they could not bring the building down to ground level without flooding lower manhatten... and that is where the Black Ops guys come in... this DEW is claimed to have been in WTC7 doing the dirty work ... I beg to differ -- I think it was on the "International" Space Station... so all govt's that belong to this ISS should be highly suspected of being also involved in 911... to this date I have not found a list of the owners of the ISS...

also, the video that was shot on 911 ... needs to be spectrum analyzed for weird light wavelengths... I have not seen a study into spectrum analysis... you see energy does not disipate it changes form ... so if Dew was used then we need to locate the evidence this energy weapon left... as near as I remember, we only have Fuzzy Steel as evidence of something weird happend to steel on 911.
more if interested....


reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 05:34 PM by muzzleflash
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right nothing is "impossible" actually.

when speculating, we must view things in a different aspect.

instead of it being "possible or impossible" we should look at them as "likely or unlikely"

he should have said "Thats quite unlikely" or something to that effect, it would be alot more accurate imo


reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 05:36 PM by jfj123
reply to post by nikiano



OK fair enough. Then show me evidence to suggest a Directed Energy Weapon was involved. Please keep in mind that I have a background in computers, lasers, optics, electronics.


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reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 05:36 PM by Seymour Butz










reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 06:02 PM by nikiano
Interesting Info on the Battle of Jericho

from Hubpages:

According to the Holy Bible, the Hebrews left Egypt in a massive exodus, probably around 1446/1445 b.c. (The exodus, too, is a matter of great debate, but not precisely relevant to the events at Jericho.) After a forty-year tour of the Arabian desert to weed out those deemed unfit for entrance into Canaan (the Hebrews' Holy Land), the people of the twelve tribes of Israel approached their target. Their first battle was with the Amorite kings Sihon and Og, whose forces they obliterated. That victory gave them clear access to the Jordan River north of the Dead Sea for their cross- ing. They easily crossed the Jordan owing to an earthquake that blocked the riverbed upstream. (Similar blockages have been recorded in later accounts, as in 1267 during Sultan Baybars' campaign against the crusaders and in 1927 when archaeologist John Garstang was excavating in the region.) The timing of the earthquake certainly must have had a positive psychological effect on the invading Hebrews.

link:
hubpages.com...

Ok, first interesting thing: we see a well timed earthquake.

It's interesting that some of the eye witnesses (at 9/11, not Jericho) also described shaking ground. For example, this is from a witness on Dr. Wood's website:

I could hear rumbling, the street under me was moving like I was in an earthquake. I've been in those, so I know what they feel like. It felt like an earthquake. There was no where safe to go.

link: www.drjudywood.com...

I tried to find more online, but I couldn't so I just went directly to the source: the Old Testament.

See my next post for that....



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reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 06:18 PM by nikiano
The Battle of Jericho

Ok, so I found the battle of Jericho, It is told in the Old Testament (aka the Torah) in the book of Joshua. Interesting reading....especially if you think about it from a 21st century perspective.


13 Once when Joshua was near Jericho, he looked up and saw a man standing before him with a drawn sword in his hand. Joshua went to him and said to him, ‘Are you one of us, or one of our adversaries?’ 14He replied, ‘Neither; but as commander of the army of the Lord I have now come.’ And Joshua fell on his face to the earth and worshipped, and he said to him, ‘What do you command your servant, my lord?’ 15The commander of the army of the Lord said to Joshua, ‘Remove the sandals from your feet, for the place where you stand is holy.’ And Joshua did so.

Now Jericho was shut up inside and out because of the Israelites; no one came out and no one went in. 2The Lord said to Joshua, ‘See, I have handed Jericho over to you, along with its king and soldiers. 3You shall march around the city, all the warriors circling the city once. Thus you shall do for six days, 4with seven priests bearing seven trumpets of rams’ horns before the ark. On the seventh day you shall march around the city seven times, the priests blowing the trumpets. 5When they make a long blast with the ram’s horn, as soon as you hear the sound of the trumpet, then all the people shall shout with a great shout; and the wall of the city will fall down flat, and all the people shall charge straight ahead.’ 6So Joshua son of Nun summoned the priests and said to them, ‘Take up the ark of the covenant, and have seven priests carry seven trumpets of rams’ horns in front of the ark of the Lord.’ 7To the people he said, ‘Go forward and march around the city; have the armed men pass on before the ark of the Lord.’
8 As Joshua had commanded the people, the seven priests carrying the seven trumpets of rams’ horns before the Lord went forward, blowing the trumpets, with the ark of the covenant of the Lord following them. 9And the armed men went before the priests who blew the trumpets; the rearguard came after the ark, while the trumpets blew continually. 10To the people Joshua gave this command: ‘You shall not shout or let your voice be heard, nor shall you utter a word, until the day I tell you to shout. Then you shall shout.’ 11So the ark of the Lord went around the city, circling it once; and they came into the camp, and spent the night in the camp.
12 Then Joshua rose early in the morning, and the priests took up the ark of the Lord. 13The seven priests carrying the seven trumpets of rams’ horns before the ark of the Lord passed on, blowing the trumpets continually. The armed men went before them, and the rearguard came after the ark of the Lord, while the trumpets blew continually. 14On the second day they marched around the city once and then returned to the camp. They did this for six days.
15 On the seventh day they rose early, at dawn, and marched around the city in the same manner seven times. It was only on that day that they marched around the city seven times. 16And at the seventh time, when the priests had blown the trumpets, Joshua said to the people, ‘Shout! For the Lord has given you the city. 17The city and all that is in it shall be devoted to the Lord for destruction. Only Rahab the prostitute and all who are with her in her house shall live, because she hid the messengers we sent. 18As for you, keep away from the things devoted to destruction, so as not to covet* and take any of the devoted things and make the camp of Israel an object for destruction, bringing trouble upon it. 19But all silver and gold, and vessels of bronze and iron, are sacred to the Lord; they shall go into the treasury of the Lord.’ 20So the people shouted, and the trumpets were blown. As soon as the people heard the sound of the trumpets, they raised a great shout, and the wall fell down flat; so the people charged straight ahead into the city and captured it.


What if...
a) The man who said he was the "Commander of the Army of the Lord" was just someone who knew how to use the Ark as a weapon, and taught Joshua how to use it? How to "turn it on?"
b) What if the man who said he was the "Commander of the Army of the Lord" but was really just some guy from an advanced society pretending to be from their God. What if they had a stake in the outcome of the battle of Jericho, so they decided to intervene and teach them how to use the Ark of the Convenant as a sound weapon to bring down the walls?
c) What if the marching for 7 days was just a "diversion" to make them think that they really brought down the walls. It was just "for show." Kind of like the running of the planes into the WTC.

Well, it LOOKED to them like the marching and the shouting and the trumpets brought down the walls of Jericho, just like it looked to us like the airplanes and the fireballs and the smoke brought down the WTC center.

Now, this is most interesting. When the walls of jericho came down, everyone was still alive inside. It was a weapon of mass destruction that brought down the city, but spared the people.

(see next post.)

[edit on 23-12-2008 by nikiano]


reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 06:30 PM by nikiano
What happened to Jericho after the walls came down? The people inside lived. (Only to be destroyed by Joshua's men....but still, they survived the weapon of the Ark of the Covenant.)

15 On the seventh day they rose early, at dawn, and marched around the city in the same manner seven times. It was only on that day that they marched around the city seven times. 16And at the seventh time, when the priests had blown the trumpets, Joshua said to the people, ‘Shout! For the Lord has given you the city. 17The city and all that is in it shall be devoted to the Lord for destruction. Only Rahab the prostitute and all who are with her in her house shall live, because she hid the messengers we sent. 18As for you, keep away from the things devoted to destruction, so as not to covet* and take any of the devoted things and make the camp of Israel an object for destruction, bringing trouble upon it. 19But all silver and gold, and vessels of bronze and iron, are sacred to the Lord; they shall go into the treasury of the Lord.’ 20So the people shouted, and the trumpets were blown. As soon as the people heard the sound of the trumpets, they raised a great shout, and the wall fell down flat; so the people charged straight ahead into the city and captured it. 21Then they devoted to destruction by the edge of the sword all in the city, both men and women, young and old, oxen, sheep, and donkeys.

22 Joshua said to the two men who had spied out the land, ‘Go into the prostitute’s house, and bring the woman out of it and all who belong to her, as you swore to her.’ 23So the young men who had been spies went in and brought Rahab out, along with her father, her mother, her brothers, and all who belonged to her—they brought all her kindred out—and set them outside the camp of Israel. 24They burned down the city, and everything in it; only the silver and gold, and the vessels of bronze and iron, they put into the treasury of the house of the Lord. 25But Rahab the prostitute, with her family and all who belonged to her, Joshua spared. Her family* has lived in Israel ever since. For she hid the messengers whom Joshua sent to spy out Jericho.


Ok, so here, we have this mighty city Jericho that was a fortress. Nobody went out...nobody went in. But something....a weapon (the Ark?) brought it down. Without hurting anyone inside. Or was it the marching and the shouting? I highly doubt it. The instructions were to carry the Ark. Maybe the sound of the trumpets activated the Ark. Or maybe the Ark was activated from a remote location when the "Commander of the Army of the Lord" heard the trumpets. That was their signal....to turn on the weapon.

What if the same....um....interested party....the same people claiming to be the Commander of the Lord's Army" keeps passing this weapon to humans, over and over again.

Just like we arm the primitive tribes of certain countries, because we have a stake in them winning the battle.....maybe there is a secret advanced society.....aliens even.....who are supplying advanced weapons to humans. Because they have a stake in who wins.

And they tell them to go through these elaborate shows of faith...marching for 7 days....shouting for 7 days....or maybe learning how to fly airplanes? Maybe these same "Commanders of God" told the "terrorists": Hey, watch this. We'll bring down your enemy. All you have to do is learn how to fly a jet plane, then fly it towards the WTC. We'll take care of the rest. All you need is faith."

Joshua and his men had faith in the Ark, because it was the WORD of God. (Word= sound. Sound = energy.) They had no idea it was a weapon. They thought their trumpets and marching brought down the walls. But what if it was the Ark, and the ARk was a weapon??

Sick, isn't it? Someone pretending to be a commander of God's army...to help one group of humans kill another group of humans. Yet....in every war, people want to believe God is on their side.


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reply posted on 23-12-2008 @ 07:08 PM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by SPreston




Greetings SPreston,

I thnk if you take a look at the links below, you will discover that for quite sometime, "Scalar Weapons" have been on the scene. The U.S. was the last of several Nations to get them. Some say groups like the Yakuza already had them before U.S.

Here is the link: "Col Tom Bearden"
www.prahlad.org...

You will also find Nikola Tesla, of great interest concerning the kinds of weapons that are being used in secret.

Nikola Tesla - The Complete Patents of Nikola Tesla - The Man who ...
Nikola Tesla, the man who invented the twentieth century, was born July 10, 1856, ... In the life of Nikola Tesla we see the portrayal of our own future, the ...
www.hbci.com... - 135k -


Another good source is: Rosalie Bertell

Planet Earth Weapon by Rosalie Bertell,
Planet Earth Weapon by Rosalie Bertell, ozone,haarp, chem trails, space war,van ... U.S tactics to USE OUR EARTHS atmosphere for yet again more killing! ...

video.google.com...

Last but not least - Angels Don't Play This H.A.A.R.P.

HAARP.net - The Military's Pandora's Box by Dr. Nick Begich and Jeane ...
That book, Angels Don't Play this HAARP: Advances in Tesla Technology, has 230 pages. ... Angels Don't Play This HAARP further quotes Brzezinski: ...
www.haarp.net... - 92k - Cached



WE ARE IN A LOT OF TROUBLE!

Best Wishes
Ngon'e
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