Grandma, thank you for your comment in this debate. Now, I have no problems with faith itself, but problems begin to arise when people with strong faiths begin to convene. This leads to a grope mentality, and if the rong ideas rise to the surface, we have problems. It is this that the OP had a problem with. The grope mentaliy of religion, not the indevidualistic mentality of faith. I hope you have a good time with yours, Grandma.

The scapegoat must be punished and destroyed! If it does not mankind will never be pure! How dare that scapegoat even exist since it so pollutes us with the evil actions and thoughts it makes us do and have!
*please note the sarcasm*


[edit on 26-3-2009 by Watcher-In-The-Shadows]

bill maher is the last person id take seriously. Yes hard line religionists such as those who stifle personal liberties, in the name of a writing in a book made by human hands are obsurd and defeating the purpose of living. to er is to live. religions which want total domination, are ussually not religion, but rogues false flagging religion. I dont like catholics or mormon doctrines because I personally feel they are all now, masonic. So its not religion to me, its deliberate liars and conspirators giving fuel over time to a fire being stoked by these ..people.,

I dislike the fact that religion drives laws and governments to the extent that it does. Unfortunately the morals (or lack of) and values that are a part of a person drives their reasoning (yes even government officials have morals and values ) and therefore it seems impossible for decisions to be may without some religious "logic" entering into the equation.

I think tolerance is the answer but that doesn't make it any easier.

I think it's the total opposite. For mankind to survive there must be religion... all the scientific progress of the renaissance would not have occured if all the tribes of europe had not been brought to heel in some form or fashion with common social rules. I know it was cruel but really, people act pretty cruddy and crave really strange stuff that will tear a society down....

Get rid of religion? Which one or ones?

The secret religions that worship Satan? Like the Freemasons, Rosicrucians, Scientologists?

The Cabalists and Talmudics who believe they are supermen and the rest of us are vermin, goyim, subhumans, who need to die to make way for their Fourth Reichian utopia?

How about the UFOologists who think the aliens are supergods flying around waiting to come down and save us all?

How about the atheists who believe matter has godlike powers of self-existance and eternality and the ability to organize itself into infinite life forms and to produce life within itself spontaneously.

Of course the ones who believe in the Bible, in the Creator God, that Jesus is God come down to earth to sacrifice himself for our sins, those people are definitely bad and need to be stopped. Also the Muslims who say God's name is Allah and not something else. They also don't believe Jesus died on the cross for our sins, but then most Christians don't believe that either. The Muslims do believe Jesus is coming back and will destroy the antichrist, which also a lot of so-called Christians don't believe. (quesiton: who is more Christian, Muslims or some of these "Christians?")

Seems like the only ones who are not to be abolished are the agnostics, the ones who admit they just don't know who is right and who is wrong.

But anybody who leans more to one than the other, or anybody who has committed themself to any of these ideas about God needs to be, what, killed, their tongues cut out? Lobotomize them? What do we do to stop people from forming opinions and beliefs about God and origins?

Not only religion must be abolished, but other type of sinister wrongdoings such as corrupt politics must end. I agree with you that these will help mankind to become better and have a strong chance of survival, but there are also other things that must change regarding the ways humans express themselves.

Man should strive to be better and violence has to stop. Everyday, people are dying because of something wrong in the world happening so if violence was to end, there won't be anything to argue about. With ending religion and also ending corrupt politics, mankind would finally be a beautiful utopia.