I know what your saying and the problem is my awareness isn't quite there when i'm projecting.. its like I dont bother to sense anything. Its
strange, like if you couldn't feel your body, you would have to think of feeling it to be aware of it... whereas while physical, i feel as though i
am aware of all my molecules at once, not thinking about them, i just feel them.
So like the same thing goes with the mind there, its hard to determine whats going on... like how i was saying i could feel myself blink and i would
go back to my body.. yet i don't know if its my physical body blinking or what..?
In this one site they were describing like 3 stages of projection, or 3 densities.. it was interesting.. but I get the feeling, things like
teleportation and such would be easier if I could go to a higher vibrational plane, or raise my frequency before I go out... perhaps I need to select
a destination but it sort of seems like you already have once you wake up to sleep paralysis in another plane.
Right now I only have theories man but my awareness of my energies seems lesser there..
Actually I will say this... I was trying to gather energy by pulling light into my solar plexus while projecting and it sent me back to my body..
perhaps the solar plexus is a mere physical/energetic representation of a quality, and while projecting our form is more "just for show".. What i'm
saying is I think you could just pull energy in anywhere, all the chakras are one.. thats just a feeling I got.
I don't want to touch on too many things that "didn't work" for me, because I don't want to implant any doubts in anyone.
Assume you can do anything...
ATS.P: My Astral Projection Guide, page 2
This morning upon waking I remembered about trying to AP,
attempted to enter SP, and in a second (literally), I was in SP. I didn't spend enough time trying to raise my vibration and had a hard time leaving
my body. Afterwards I just had a hard time entering SP, so I will try again tonight. reply posted on 25-12-2008 @ 12:11 PM by unity1
This is great caveman thanks!!!
I refered to your post over here...
www.abovetopsecret.com...'
Many who posted there, i believe, had gotten to the point where they were just about to experience an obe and then awoke with a jerk. I think that's the fear you are referring to?
I refered to your post over here...
www.abovetopsecret.com...'
Many who posted there, i believe, had gotten to the point where they were just about to experience an obe and then awoke with a jerk. I think that's the fear you are referring to?
reply posted on 25-12-2008 @ 07:25 PM by CavemanDD
If any mods are lingering, it would be nice if you could put this in the original post. It seems I can't edit it anymore.
reply posted on 25-12-2008 @ 07:30 PM by CavemanDD
reply to post by psycho81
hey man, my second projection I ever had happened when I became lucid in a morning dream.. I thought I wanted to project and i went straight into sleep paralysis... i didnt get out.. but i went back to sleep and got out.
My point.. I was pretty hungover during all of it. Only your energy (body) in this frequency range is drunk.
You'll get it I'm sure... if you have tasted that feeling of sleep paralysis, your subconscious will know your intent when you tell yourself ( I have sleep paralysis, sleep paralysis..sleep paralysis!!)..yell it in your mind if you have to.
Keep at it.
hey man, my second projection I ever had happened when I became lucid in a morning dream.. I thought I wanted to project and i went straight into sleep paralysis... i didnt get out.. but i went back to sleep and got out.
My point.. I was pretty hungover during all of it. Only your energy (body) in this frequency range is drunk.
You'll get it I'm sure... if you have tasted that feeling of sleep paralysis, your subconscious will know your intent when you tell yourself ( I have sleep paralysis, sleep paralysis..sleep paralysis!!)..yell it in your mind if you have to.
Keep at it.
reply posted on 29-12-2008 @ 10:50 AM by CavemanDD
reply to post by postmeme
I started writing this big long reply but I think I can make it shorter.
I will leave that entirely up to your own interpretation. They are very similar, but also different.
I just come back to.. I don't really go anywhere, as I feel i exist on a single point, all else ( all movement ) is perception.
Look at it like a different way to dream, but perhaps look at dreams as a different way you are living. Is it any less real?
I feel both are good, but perhaps some prefer to experience that awesome vibration... and again, i feel more like i'm floating as i'm projecting, as well.. i seem to keep shooting back to my body while projecting, if I blink, or try and absorb energy... i go back to my body, but still in paralysis... i don't have to deal with any of that in lucid dreams..
I started writing this big long reply but I think I can make it shorter.
I will leave that entirely up to your own interpretation. They are very similar, but also different.
I just come back to.. I don't really go anywhere, as I feel i exist on a single point, all else ( all movement ) is perception.
Look at it like a different way to dream, but perhaps look at dreams as a different way you are living. Is it any less real?
I feel both are good, but perhaps some prefer to experience that awesome vibration... and again, i feel more like i'm floating as i'm projecting, as well.. i seem to keep shooting back to my body while projecting, if I blink, or try and absorb energy... i go back to my body, but still in paralysis... i don't have to deal with any of that in lucid dreams..
reply posted on 29-12-2008 @ 10:58 AM by CavemanDD
reply to post by psycho81
ha i don't know man.. i don't think i've ever looked UP.. while in sleep paralysis.. i always seem to be looking around or down at my body.
Sounds like you were close.. but you might finding getting out to be the tricky part... its almost like you have to imagine yourself sitting up or rolling out..or you don't try and rip yourself out, you just get up as if you were getting out of bed.. like physically.. you might think.. i wonder if I just woke up and got out of bed or if I projected, and then you realise.. well i'm not awake, so something happened.
I don't know about that tunnel of light but I opened up a wormhole before on some higher plane,.. i was half way through it but got yanked out and a guy told me not to (for my own good no doubt).. I don't know what affect wormholes would have on your mind/soul.. you might end up waking up in a very strange universe. I don't think there is any real danger that you should worry about.
I think we are constantly holding ourselves, expecting there to be a danger or forbidden zone where there is none.
speaking of forbidden zones.. i projected to the moon once... as i was getting closer, there was like an atmosphere of dark clouds and i couldn't penetrate it.. something strange goin on there.
Well I'm glad you got as far as you did. Can I ask how you were meditating? on your back or sitting?
I've been unable to do it through meditation but I've been close I think.
ha i don't know man.. i don't think i've ever looked UP.. while in sleep paralysis.. i always seem to be looking around or down at my body.
Sounds like you were close.. but you might finding getting out to be the tricky part... its almost like you have to imagine yourself sitting up or rolling out..or you don't try and rip yourself out, you just get up as if you were getting out of bed.. like physically.. you might think.. i wonder if I just woke up and got out of bed or if I projected, and then you realise.. well i'm not awake, so something happened.
I don't know about that tunnel of light but I opened up a wormhole before on some higher plane,.. i was half way through it but got yanked out and a guy told me not to (for my own good no doubt).. I don't know what affect wormholes would have on your mind/soul.. you might end up waking up in a very strange universe.
I don't think there is any real danger that you should worry about. I think we are constantly holding ourselves, expecting there to be a danger or forbidden zone where there is none.
speaking of forbidden zones.. i projected to the moon once... as i was getting closer, there was like an atmosphere of dark clouds and i couldn't penetrate it.. something strange goin on there.
Well I'm glad you got as far as you did. Can I ask how you were meditating? on your back or sitting?
I've been unable to do it through meditation but I've been close I think.
reply posted on 29-12-2008 @ 11:01 AM by CavemanDD
reply to post by Kiwiemperor
By the sounds of it, more will come..... your subconscious has led you to this thread and no doubt other sources for this type of information..
you bring it more and more into your life until it eventually manifests itself.
I was probably thinking about astral projection with this desire to do it, to know it for a good solid year.. I tried other techniques that failed too but did give me other experiences I haven't been able to replicate (like feeling my heart chakra spinning out of control in some sleep-paralysis state). It will come and become more frequent over time the more you bring it into your life.
By the sounds of it, more will come...
.. your subconscious has led you to this thread and no doubt other sources for this type of information..
you bring it more and more into your life until it eventually manifests itself. I was probably thinking about astral projection with this desire to do it, to know it for a good solid year.. I tried other techniques that failed too but did give me other experiences I haven't been able to replicate (like feeling my heart chakra spinning out of control in some sleep-paralysis state). It will come and become more frequent over time the more you bring it into your life.
reply posted on 29-12-2008 @ 04:03 PM by psycho81
reply to post by CavemanDD
I was meditating lay on my back.
I got a feeling the thing stopping me is acceptance, just been trying to work out the answer and I remember thinking "How will I get out my body, will I just float out or roll out" at this point I was trying to visualize what it would be like.
The only part I could not get my head around was, if I do roll out my body will I go through my bed covers or will they move as I get up. Now I understand I don’t need to know, would it make any more sense if I did know. I am going to just accept this can happen and go with it, it was totally amazing.
The advice you gave in the Podcast was just like I said “Brilliant” I have seen wormholes 2 times before but nothing as vivid as this. It was like I was floating in some energy field, my whole body was alive. Today I am very focused and balanced, it’s like I woke up with something new and I am trying to work out what it is. I feel excited, most of all I feel so much more connected to life energy.
Thanks for all the great advice Caveman I feel I am opening up many new doors to explore.
I was meditating lay on my back.
I got a feeling the thing stopping me is acceptance, just been trying to work out the answer and I remember thinking "How will I get out my body, will I just float out or roll out" at this point I was trying to visualize what it would be like.
The only part I could not get my head around was, if I do roll out my body will I go through my bed covers or will they move as I get up. Now I understand I don’t need to know, would it make any more sense if I did know. I am going to just accept this can happen and go with it, it was totally amazing.
The advice you gave in the Podcast was just like I said “Brilliant” I have seen wormholes 2 times before but nothing as vivid as this. It was like I was floating in some energy field, my whole body was alive. Today I am very focused and balanced, it’s like I woke up with something new and I am trying to work out what it is. I feel excited, most of all I feel so much more connected to life energy.
Thanks for all the great advice Caveman I feel I am opening up many new doors to explore.
reply posted on 29-12-2008 @ 05:51 PM by CavemanDD
reply to post by TheEnlightenedOne
Right on man, let me know how it goes. I'm still waiting to here from someone if my technique works. I wish i could have been more specific about the sleep paralysis... when telling your subconscious you have it, it would help to think in your mind what it feels like.. like trying to manifest it by really telling your subconscious exactly what you want in know words..
like "I have sleep paralysis, i HAVE sleep Paralysis!".. when doing this your thinking of waking up paralyzed, with the sound and vibrations (just like before, so automatically the subconscious knows, well it should know anyway).
Maybe next podcast.
Good luck.
Some of mine are still spontaneous.
Right on man, let me know how it goes. I'm still waiting to here from someone if my technique works. I wish i could have been more specific about the sleep paralysis... when telling your subconscious you have it, it would help to think in your mind what it feels like.. like trying to manifest it by really telling your subconscious exactly what you want in know words..
like "I have sleep paralysis, i HAVE sleep Paralysis!".. when doing this your thinking of waking up paralyzed, with the sound and vibrations (just like before, so automatically the subconscious knows, well it should know anyway).
Maybe next podcast.
Good luck.
Some of mine are still spontaneous.
reply posted on 29-12-2008 @ 11:59 PM by tmk81
Please be aware that through astral projection you could be opening your mind to overt manipulation by a
quantum computer which uses electromagnetic radiation through a satellite constellation for
techlepathy and mind control.
Here is some background information: Military AI Supercomputer Mind Monitoring: What I have learned
It has projected translucent figures into my environment through my mind's eye, like faint holograms, with clear intelligible voices which communicated deep insights as well as derision pertaining to my life. The images were as though my eyes were projectors.
It has also transmitted strobed images, such as Nazi soldiers marching at a diagonal angle, when I had my eyes closed and I was not imagining anything; it was as though I were watching a movie.
It has also transmitted clear visions such as the Earth turning into a bullet and collapsing and pulling the Sun with it causing a projection of time to collapse and reverse to the dinosaurs and eventually into a black hole.
Another is of the Earth splitting inside out into quarters and turning into a lotus.
Another is the surface of the Earth inverting into a shell around the Sun from a "neutron" weapon which flipped the polarity of matter and George W. Bush escaping in a space ship outside the shell and communicating with me from possibly the future telling me what had happened.
Another is it "quarking" (to mine energy from quarks) my brain which appeared as a moving vector orthogonal to the surface of an irregular volume which as the vector moved, a purple energy cloud would leak out. A warp sound, similar to the sound a racquetball occasionally makes, would pierce through my head and my environment would shift through different angles as though I were moving into another dimension.
Another is a lighthouse projecting time as a light beam rotating in a circle.
Another is giant rotating rings at the edge of the Universe and something outside of it observing it as though it were a simulation.
Another is of a tick in a keyhole trying to leverage itself out of my mind while my legs felt like they were being patted up and down.
Another is the Earth turning into a phoenix and an image of a human with the backside of their bent wrists touching the sides of their head and their head turned up and sideways.
Another is a troll doll's face saying something like "Do you want to help us help you?" and then the troll doll putting its arms out in a shrug.
Another is an infinite plane of tiny white spheres with orthogonal vectors moving in different directions.
Another is an old man's voice saying "the history of time"(from what I can remember; it could have been something similar) and a white circle and a black circle alternating into and out of each other like a phoropter and a drop of water going through a surface then emerging at the top and repeating with a droplet sound.
There are more, all of which I consider a part of this system programming me. Sayings it repeated throughout this programming include "you are moving into a completely different world"(from what I can remember; it could have been something similar) and "you are going underground".
[edit on 30-12-2008 by tmk81]
Here is some background information: Military AI Supercomputer Mind Monitoring: What I have learned
It has projected translucent figures into my environment through my mind's eye, like faint holograms, with clear intelligible voices which communicated deep insights as well as derision pertaining to my life. The images were as though my eyes were projectors.
It has also transmitted strobed images, such as Nazi soldiers marching at a diagonal angle, when I had my eyes closed and I was not imagining anything; it was as though I were watching a movie.
It has also transmitted clear visions such as the Earth turning into a bullet and collapsing and pulling the Sun with it causing a projection of time to collapse and reverse to the dinosaurs and eventually into a black hole.
Another is of the Earth splitting inside out into quarters and turning into a lotus.
Another is the surface of the Earth inverting into a shell around the Sun from a "neutron" weapon which flipped the polarity of matter and George W. Bush escaping in a space ship outside the shell and communicating with me from possibly the future telling me what had happened.
Another is it "quarking" (to mine energy from quarks) my brain which appeared as a moving vector orthogonal to the surface of an irregular volume which as the vector moved, a purple energy cloud would leak out. A warp sound, similar to the sound a racquetball occasionally makes, would pierce through my head and my environment would shift through different angles as though I were moving into another dimension.
Another is a lighthouse projecting time as a light beam rotating in a circle.
Another is giant rotating rings at the edge of the Universe and something outside of it observing it as though it were a simulation.
Another is of a tick in a keyhole trying to leverage itself out of my mind while my legs felt like they were being patted up and down.
Another is the Earth turning into a phoenix and an image of a human with the backside of their bent wrists touching the sides of their head and their head turned up and sideways.
Another is a troll doll's face saying something like "Do you want to help us help you?" and then the troll doll putting its arms out in a shrug.
Another is an infinite plane of tiny white spheres with orthogonal vectors moving in different directions.
Another is an old man's voice saying "the history of time"(from what I can remember; it could have been something similar) and a white circle and a black circle alternating into and out of each other like a phoropter and a drop of water going through a surface then emerging at the top and repeating with a droplet sound.
There are more, all of which I consider a part of this system programming me. Sayings it repeated throughout this programming include "you are moving into a completely different world"(from what I can remember; it could have been something similar) and "you are going underground".
[edit on 30-12-2008 by tmk81]
