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Originally posted by dbates
I didn't see it, but obvously I missed nothing important.
Did they mention Jesus' words in Luke 4:25-27?
I assure you that there were many widows in Israel in Elijah's time, when the sky was shut for three and a half years and there was a severe famine throughout the land. Yet Elijah was not sent to any of them, but to a widow in Zarephath in the region of Sidon. And there were many in Israel with leprosy in the time of Elisha the prophet, yet not one of them was cleansed--only Naaman the Syrian."
Originally posted by KSoze
Leveller, How do you or anyone know they were gnostics....that "they" viewed his message as gnostic...what evidence are you basing your claims upon...more than likely, nonsense that is just as undecipherable as the Bible. Not that gnosticism is a bad thing or even wrong but where's the evidence. And I'm not talking about the Gospel of Thomas or any other long lost gospel bogus document. How about something historical with some substance to it. You talk as your views are fact when they're not. It could be, but you cant prove it.
Personally, I don't care. But to tell someone they need to study bible history just because they haven't arrived at the same conclusion as you is wrong. For one thing, bible History is filled with a big hole because someone took it upon themselves to destroy things and ideas. so how do you study something which is not there. you have absolutely no idea what they said and to say otherwise is absurd. To arrive at an answer requires data; which there doesnt seem to be enough of. In this case, you only have the ability to draw a conclusion.
Its always the same old garbage though. You have everybody wanting to tell you what the messiah really meant or who he really was. Yet they cant give any shred of evidence to support their claims. Every year there is a new theory (he had a kid, he had a wife, he went to England, etc)...Geez, does it ever end
Are we getting a new weekly Jesus TV program: If you want Jesus to be married we've got him, If you want him to be gay we've got him too; We've basically got Jesus in all sizes shapes and forms for all of your individual needs. Totally distasteful for a bunch of people that are too proud to admit they don't know anything. They think they know but they don't. If you have an "idea" then test it until substantial evidence supports your theory. Then bring out your idea but to just bring forth random crap on the TV and confuse the daylights out of people is absolutely hideous.
Originally posted by KSoze
Leveller, How do you or anyone know they were gnostics....that "they" viewed his message as gnostic...what evidence are you basing your claims upon...more than likely, nonsense that is just as undecipherable as the Bible.
Originally posted by Leveller
The main pointer that Christianity was based on these gnostic beliefs is the fact that there is NOTHING in the New Testament that hasn't been done or said before by a gnostic figurehead. The miracles, the words of Jesus, the events surrounding his life - all had been already achieved by earlier religious figures.
Originally posted by junglejake
Why are the "facts" so well hidden from the public that this is the first time I've even heard of Gnostics, much less an arguement that Jesus and company were all Gnostics.
Originally posted by Illmatic67
"If Christianity needed an Anti-christ, they needed to look no further than to Paul."
Originally posted by KSoze
Another one tying Jesus to Osiris.