Everyone Hates America....Dont they??, page 6

Originally posted by haika
reply to post by alyosha1981

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What do you mean with "love it or leave it"? Remember that there are a bunch of people in ATS that don't even live in the USA, let alone the whole American continent.

And I applaud your view on the country. Everyone should feel the same way about their own country. All those other GREAT countries in the world, many in which people are educated, know about other cultures, speak other languages and are not paranoid about terrorist attacks or their own government spying on them.....oh wait? That sounds like freedom, doesn't it?

Originally posted by Dermo:
Please.. someone from the US, just answer me this question intelligently ---> Who are all these people around the world that are oppressed, have no freedoms, liberties and pride in their countries that make you want to go on and on about how you are so lucky to have them??


To the first question I believe this sums up how I feel.
America — Love It or Leave It

by Harry Browne

April 25, 2003

Until the 20th century, America minded its own business. John Quincy Adams put it very simply: "America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy."

But today there are people living here who don't like the American tradition of peace and friendship. They want America to roam the world — attempting to right all the wrongs — no matter how often it fails to achieve its utopian goals.

To those people I say, "If you prefer constant aggression and conflict, why don't you go live in Lebanon?"

America was once the land where individual privacy and civil liberties were highly prized, where government had no power to pry into your political associations, your financial transactions, or your luggage.

But today there are those who don't like that American tradition. They say that national power and nation-building are more important than individualism and privacy.

To them I say, "If you prefer nosy government, why don't you go live in China?"

Insecurity

While European, Asian, and Middle Eastern nations fought their endless wars, perpetually invading and being invaded, causing their citizens to live in constant insecurity and fear, Americans could live happy, peaceful lives.

But some people don't want Americans to live that way. They like the state of siege the Bush administration has foisted on us.

To them I say, "If you prefer living in an insecure, armed state, why don't you go live in Israel?"

America was traditionally the land of free markets and free minds.

Now the politicians and bureaucrats want to control every aspect of our lives. Republicans and Democrats alike endorse the endless forms we must fill out, the government's takeover of medicine, and the myriad regulatory agencies.

To those who approve of that I say, "If you prefer big government, why don't you go live in Sweden?"

Americans were always skeptical of their government — and they still are. Polls routinely show politicians in lower repute than used-car dealers.

But today there are subversive voices telling us to support our government, right or wrong — telling us we must trust our President, even when it's obvious he's been dispensing false information — telling us to cheer for the military, even when they're in the wrong place.

To those who claim we must support our Glorious Leader no matter what he does, I say, "If you prefer blind obedience, why don't you go live in Iran?"

The Pot Attacks

What is truly strange is that these critics of the American way of life — people who prefer the alien values of the Old World — have the audacity to criticize those of us who love America — calling us, of all things, "un-American," "unpatriotic," or "anti-American."

Supposedly it is now naïve, unrealistic, or cowardly to believe in the uniqueness of America. So we are attacked for trying to preserve and restore the very qualities that made America the world's most attractive country.

After all, if we aren't going to be that unique place called America — the place that was once the beacon of liberty and peace, providing light and hope and inspiration to the whole world — what's the point of living here?

The critics of America may try to wrap themselves in the American flag, but their allegiance is actually to some other flag. I don't know where they'd be happiest, but it obviously isn't America.

So to those people I say: America — love it or leave it.

This also answers the second question and it is how I feel, I would also like to comment on the American people who would take all that this great country has to offer yet give nothing in return, those who ride the welfare "system" for years on end but refuse to work thus allowing law abiding tax paying citizens to foot the bill for their miserable existience and keep reproducing so the cycle never ends, they are a cancer on our society and only fuel the fire as many of them are the gov bashers that criticize the country for being so bad yet won't do anything to better the future for their children. I love the USA good or bad and I feel like I am free, now by free I don't mean that I can do whatever I want as everything has it's limits, I mean that I am free to persue life liberty and happiness, and that is what I do as do many millions and millions of other Americans.

reply to post by dangleb3rry

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The only Korean's who really don't like the idea of American troops on their soil are the young college generation kids, I had the pleasure of being thanked by the older Korean citizen's who were actually alive during the Korean war They want us there it's not our fault that the children are being taught that America is tramping on their right to be their own country, even though the number of American troops there is less then 30000 the fact that their there adds to the reason why ol Kim Jong and his hordes don't take a little trip south.

reply to post by alyosha1981

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Here's the problem, and I hope you take it just as I intend it, with humility.

As the gears turn, different nations at different times are seemingly given more power than most others.

With this increase in power is more responsibility.

Responsibility not to abuse that power just because you have it.

Responsibility to help others less powerful.

And responsibility to not fear using that power when deemed necessary.

The US has done all three. Our trick is balancing the effort.

We truly do not use that power with evil intention. Sometimes we simply make a mistake - a human characteristic - in judgement.

reply to post by alyosha1981

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That doesn't make very much sense at all and you didn't answer my question.


Also, might i add.

Wasn't the US borne of war? On multiple fronts against multiple enemies? Just because it took a short break doesn't mean anything.

Also again, didn't the US get involved in 'Foreign' wars in the last century simply because the revenue generated would power boost its economy & Status as western leader? Whether or not the US was asked to partake does not matter.

reply to post by intrepid

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Exactly. I love this Country but, I am not always proud of things that does happen here but, in the end the good many times outweighs the problems mostly due to the generosity of some. As for leaders, yeah I believe as you do about leadership. At 35 I don't think I've seen many politicians that gives a rat's a** about this country.

526 bridges are at extreme risk for collapsing in South Carolina due to poor infrastructure, faulty designs, age. I would rather halt the nation building/tearing down and worry about our own people. That is just one point among many.

reply to post by DantesLost

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I know what country you were talking about, I was being petty. But in my defense, the title of your thread does not specify whether you were referring to America as a country or continent. Your title says: Everyone hates America....don't they? Like I said, I was being petty, arguing semantics, my apologies.

reply to post by resistancia

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well you will be glad to know that we wont be able to brag much longer bc the illegal immigrants from Mexico are ruining this country

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