Occultism is not Satanism

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posted on Jan, 20 2009 @ 11:31 AM
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Thanks Tom, you are a good soul. It`s been a good debate, and like you, I have learned much from it. We are all pupils in this school house we call existance.




posted on Jan, 20 2009 @ 12:37 PM
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You are welcome.....oh, about the disagreeing born agains, I brought up a point last week and I thought that the lot of them were going to tar and feather me from the couch. They are stuck in religious icons that can't do no wrong. I named about 7 names of Evangelicals that are misleading and basically lying to their "flock" on TV. I mean if one is going to be an atheist, then so be it but don't be an atheist and argue for the existence of God. Well, these "Born Again" Christians are not giving Biblical principles that are supported by no stretch of the imagination. If you are Mormon then you will give the beliefs of Mormons from their book. Oh well, I go again tonight and will look for buckets of feathers....lol.........and if I smell tar melting in the backyard.....well, I'm outta there......
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posted on Jan, 20 2009 @ 12:39 PM
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this person named Yellowalert says it much better than I could. Just for another point of view.......but said much better than I did. and I'm done. Not to get the last word, I'm just thought that you might want this perspective. and that's all folks.........
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www.abovetopsecret.com...


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posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 03:50 AM
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Originally posted by gordonwest
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The catch-phrase "satanism" is also used by the more twisted and perverse elements of society who involve themselves in real crimes and real evils.


(Inrespect To SkyFloating) Just as like in any "following", there are the wannabies and there are the followers. Thereis within a secter of "satanism", a real group of people which does follow the proper ways of "satanism". Those people do NOT act all wearing black clothes, wearing goth items on their body...and so on. I do know this, because I was sortof into it.

I agree with you, Satanists are mostly ordinairy people, with their own beliefsystems. First of all, there is a wide variety of satanism, I'd say the two most important ones are LaVeyan/modern satanism and theistic satanism, and second, the term satanism is being misused by people as well. Satanism is not about sacrifices, it is not about blood, hate, evil as a lot of people seem to think. What surprises me, is that a lot of non christians see satanism as something evil as well.



posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 09:32 AM
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of course they are not the same.
occultism is just another (older) term for spirituality. In about 1900 when esoteric became more popular, it was used more often.
today one thinks more of something hidden, dark (or black magic) just because of the old term.



posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 01:11 AM
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The story of king Saul consulting the witch of Endor (sounds like a Lord of the rings character) is indeed a cautionary tale; he engaged in a practice that was forbidden and paid a heavy price.
Jacob used occult knowledge in Gen. 30:37-43 though it was not a practice expressly forbidden in the Deuteronomy passage that you quoted. Crowley wrote about this practice something about the lion and the eagle, I figured out what he was talking about, SF made a very veiled allusion to it in his thread on the law of attraction. Point is it worked out just fine for Jacob. It would work with goats cuz what they see with their eyes is pretty much all that is in their minds at the moment. I would not practice this and I think most fellow christians would be shocked at the... ins & outs of this. I read something from a pastor/commentator saying that Jacob did not know what he was doing....HA...I think he knew exactly what he was doing.
Most of the O.T. stories are presented without comment, like; this person did such and such.



posted on Feb, 19 2011 @ 09:28 PM
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Hey, cool thread dude

You said in the op youre a former practitioner, dont you practice the occult anymore, and what did you practice?
I know exactly what you mean about religion demonising anything. Yes radical religion believe's that, were not worthy type lol
You said that the occult has nothing to do with satanism. What of the black magician's?
Who are they then? I ask this because to my understanding there are two type's of satanist's, those who practice satanism for empowerment of the self but do not actually believe in satan as a being, and those who practice it for the same reason but actually believe in a dark force as a reality.
Are all the occultist's who practice black magic satanist's is my question?
If not, is there another form of dark energy apart from that of the belief of satanism that occultist's tap into?
S&F btw, nice thread.



posted on Jun, 20 2013 @ 03:45 PM
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Great thread! Being one who enjoys these thingsI can completely agree! Star and Flag!





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