There is already a thread concerning April Gallop, so I recommended this post be moved into the other one.

Till then, however, could you explain, Craig, why, if April doesn't believe a plane hit the building, did she sue and accept a settlement from the airlines and security companies? Was it the temptation of easy, free money? If a plane never hit the building, why did she accept that settlement?

I listened to the interview and found it very interesting. I haven't really looked into the experiences of eyewitnesses or maybe victims is the better word, who were in the building that day.

I'm not sure how much testimony there is out there, but here, clearly is someone who saw no evidence of an airplane crash as she exited the building through the alleged "impact" hole. One swallow doesn't make a spring but it's a very nice sign.

Personally, I don't put much stock in her speculation that she could possibility be the one who actually detonated the "bomb", if that's what it was, when she turned her computer monitor on. That kind of macabre touch happens in movies a lot, but the idea that 9/11 plotters would give that responsibility to April is, IMHO, out of the question.

Edit: One thing does intrigue me though. The fact that she was a call in substitute for someone else who "had to go to a meeting" and was therefore out of the office when the incident happened. Possibilities of insider awareness emerge there. The guy in charge of one of the air defense situation rooms was a last minute replacement also, I believe.

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posted by pinch
if April doesn't believe a plane hit the building, did she sue and accept a settlement from the airlines and security companies? Was it the temptation of easy, free money? If a plane never hit the building, why did she accept that settlement?

Thank you April Gallop for refusing to LIE when the Department of Defense ordered you to LIE. It is sad that so many others injured and trapped by a treacherous attack upon our Pentagon, have failed to display such honor. There should be hundreds of Pentagon personnel coming forward seeking interviews to give accounts of what they witnessed at the Pentagon on 9-11. Is it because the MSM refuses to interview them? Surely many of them have retired or left the service in the past seven years, and are out of reach of retaliation by the Defense Dept and Bush Regime. Even if their accounts supported the 9-11 OFFICIAL STORY, where are they in more detail like CIT has given us? Are MSM journalists too incompetent to give detailed decent interviews?

Why is it pinch that you fail to criticize Dubya for stealing the emergency funds raised for the victims of 9-11 to fund his bloody war of greed and naked aggression? And how is it you have inside information on how much money April has received for her injuries? Would you mind posting your links to her bank accounts? Do you not believe that a little boy should receive compensation for his brain injuries when the Pentagon security personnel were incompetent and he should have been in day care far from the explosions? In fact if April had taken him to daycare as was standard procedure, she would have been late to her office and likely would have escaped injury herself. Since her supervisor was away at a meeting, and ordered that April be allowed to take Elishah to her office, do you think April and her son were supposed to die in there?

Originally posted by SPreston
Why is it pinch that you fail to criticize Dubya for stealing the emergency funds raised for the victims of 9-11 to fund his bloody war of greed and naked aggression?

Can you find some different adjective combinations besides "bloody war" and "naked aggression"? Those have been used up, pretty much, and don't have the "oomph" that they used to have. Perhaps you can move on to Bush eating babies and putting hamsters in blenders?

As far as stealing "the emergency funds" goes, when Dubya cuts off all support to the colonists on Alpha Centauri and moves truly into the "Galactically Evil" category, *then* I'll take note. He only has another 28 days or so to do that, so he'd better hurry up!

Seriously, though, is there no end to the garbage you'll make up or believe or buy into? Apparently not.

April's attorney seems to think a missile hit the Pentagon:


Attorney, William Veale:

Defendant Rumsfeld also made a striking prediction of the attack, as if speaking compulsively about his secret knowledge, that very morning, and several days later, he publicly referred to the “missile” that hit the Pentagon.

Interesting.

Originally posted by CameronFox
April's attorney seems to think a missile hit the Pentagon:


Attorney, William Veale:

Defendant Rumsfeld also made a striking prediction of the attack, as if speaking compulsively about his secret knowledge, that very morning, and several days later, he publicly referred to the “missile” that hit the Pentagon.

Interesting.

The funniest claim they've made is that the air defense missles didn't pop out of the ground.

Is she so clueless about the the building she worked in?

Originally posted by ipsedixit


Personally, I don't put much stock in her speculation that she could possibility be the one who actually detonated the "bomb", if that's what it was, when she turned her computer monitor on.

She didn't say that she believes she detonated a bomb now.

She suggested that the timing is what convinced her at the time that she may have.

Edit: One thing does intrigue me though. The fact that she was a call in substitute for someone else who "had to go to a meeting" and was therefore out of the office when the incident happened. Possibilities of insider awareness emerge there. The guy in charge of one of the air defense situation rooms was a last minute replacement also, I believe.

Agreed.

The whole thing about getting the call on the cell phone and being told to report right to her desk with her baby and having no problem getting the baby cleared is all too weird to me.

As is the fact that she wasn't aware of the attack.

It smells to me like they wanted her in her office at 9:38 no matter what it took.

Originally posted by Craig Ranke CIT

I don't know anything about any of your allegations and I wouldn't speak for April even if I did.

I wouldn't expect the "Citizen's Investigation Team" to know anything about her case.

I find it disgusting...

As I find your actions.

Go ahead and keep trying to raise doubts on April's motives.

I will, especially when there are charlatans like slime-ball lawyers who can't even do basic elementary research on a topic to take advantage of her.

It makes you look really tough, cool, and strong.

Don't be scared, Craig. Just because this latest little scam won't see the inside of a courtroom doesn't mean you journey isn't worthwhile - at least you learned that the Camp Springs One departure does indeed fly due west (270), OVER approaching aircraft into DCA, and you learned that Captain Bob isn' treally that sharp of a pilot. Well, you should have.

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Originally posted by ipsedixit
Personally, I don't put much stock in her speculation that she could possibility be the one who actually detonated the "bomb", if that's what it was, when she turned her computer monitor on. That kind of macabre touch happens in movies a lot, but the idea that 9/11 plotters would give that responsibility to April is, IMHO, out of the question.

I don't think she is suggesting this, she is saying that from a psychological point of view, she pushed a button and there was an explosion. Action followed by reaction.
Imagine if you entered a room and flicked the light switch just as all power went out, your first instinct would be that you tripped a fuse. But you could find that there was major blackout just at that moment. Without knowing what else was happening, you'd simply believe that you had cause the power in your home to fail.

In general, it's interesting to hear her opinion. She clearly has thought a lot about what happened that day, and she's very brave for being honest about it.

One thing is for certain, I'll easily accept the opinions and estimations of a person who was there over and above the opinions of leaders who deny the claims and observations of such a witness.

posted by CameronFox
April's attorney seems to think a missile hit the Pentagon:

Attorney, William Veale:

Defendant Rumsfeld also made a striking prediction of the attack, as if speaking compulsively about his secret knowledge, that very morning, and several days later, he publicly referred to the “missile” that hit the Pentagon.

If that is the extent of Veale's statement; it looks more like he is pointing out that Rummy was leaking deliberate disinformation. Perhaps you and pinch can easily relate to that.

Thank GOD for April Gallop. She survived in a position where she and her son should have died; and now she is disturbing the status quo by REFUSING TO LIE as ordered by the Defense Department and by extension the Bush Regime.

Originally posted by Seymour Butz
Is she so clueless about the the building she worked in?

Apparently so. I was working in the building six months before April Gallop arrived and the indoc I received from the Navy Command Center bubbas highlighted the security aspects of the building (perhaps the Navy indoc folks were a bit more complete in their indoctrination briefings then the Army was!), and they were all about vehicle security or security checkpoints.

I knew for a fact there were no "air-defense" missiles, subterranean or otherwise, just as there had never been any on any naval or air force or other military base I had ever been on inside the continental US. You simply didn't need them. To believe there were some, even to this day, is absolute base ignorance, and for some high-falutin' hundreds-per-hour "Esquire" law firm to put that in a lawsuit is really one of the funniest thing I have ever seen come out of this "Truther" movement.

posted by Seymour Butz
Is she so clueless about the the building she worked in?

posted by pinch
Apparently so. I was working in the building six months before April Gallop arrived and the indoc I received from the Navy Command Center bubbas highlighted the security aspects of the building (perhaps the Navy indoc folks were a bit more complete in their indoctrination briefings then the Army was!), and they were all about vehicle security or security checkpoints.

I knew for a fact there were no "air-defense" missiles, subterranean or otherwise, just as there had never been any on any naval or air force or other military base I had ever been on inside the continental US.

Perhaps she was ignorant of the defensive abilities of Pentagon security. However you are just a mechanic, and April Gallop had a top secret clearance. So her knowledge and intellect and position outranks yours by a great amount.

Originally posted by SPreston
The World Court has repeatedly described the attack on Iraq as a war of naked aggression haven't they?

The World Court?

L O L

Next you'll be telling us that United Nations representatives are raping children in Afrca. Wait! They are!!!!

Seriously, try to find a shred of objectivity when you pick global entities that hate him.

You didn't take my advice - your old and worn out "NAKED WAR OF BLOODY AGGRESSION" is becoming more and more of a laugh-line.

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Originally posted by pinch
why, if April doesn't believe a plane hit the building, did she sue and accept a settlement from the airlines and security companies? Was it the temptation of easy, free money? If a plane never hit the building, why did she accept that settlement?

ambulance chasers?

posted by dariousg
You just don't get it preston. People like 'Pinch' have sold their soul to this government. He has a job that he thinks will provide benefits and such just as long as he follows their established status quo. .....

The lack of evidence supporting the official story along with the many many many questions and coincidences and lack of answers is just overwhelming. People like Pinch are the 'yes' men of this government and will do whatever they are told and honestly believe that they are being true patriots for doing so. .....

Pinch will never understand that. Or more likely, he does and simply chooses to ignore this because it is his job to blindly follow without thought.

I'm sorry. You are probably correct. I just assume that active military and US Military veterans will always support the men and women and veterans they served with and NOT the corrupt government which threw their lives away and refused to follow up on their commitments to those loyal warriors of their families and friends and the People.

I always forget that there are people like pinch and Reheat and Farmer around who do not share our loyalty to our fellow veterans. I should have learned after the betrayal of my brother POWs and MIAs from the NAM and the abandoning into homelessness of so many wounded and PTSD victims from all the last few useless wars of the late 20th and 21st centuries, that all military personnel and veterans do not display patriotism as many of us do.

Once again I apologize for presuming too much. I should not have assumed that everyone would place patriotism and loyalty to the American people above the political status quo.