Why do many Atheists celebrate Christmas?, page 5
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reply posted on 27-12-2008 @ 02:57 PM by civilized mammal
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
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post by clay2 baraka



I totally agree with you except on one point........I thought that Dec25th was the birth date of the sun god Ra.

I disagree. There is no Egyptian link. Christmas is actually the Catholic incorporation of two pagan cultures winter festival. These being the Roman Saturnalia and the Germanic Yule. This was done to make conversion of the European pagan tribes possible, or at least easier.
The same thing happened with the Lord's Day. The seventh day of the week is actually Saturday. Since the pagans found it easier to switch religions if left to have their Sunday (worship of the sun), the decision to switch the Saturday in favor of Sunday was made.
There is no mention of Christmas, or an urging to making any celebration like it in honor of Jesus, in the Bible.
Many people argue that this practice actually deviates from the core values of Christianity.


reply posted on 29-12-2008 @ 11:05 PM by mattifikation
reply to post by slave2thelord



Actually, on holidays my family has pie.

But I get what you're saying... if I'm not a Christian, I shouldn't be allowed to have fun, or do things I like, or celebrate seeing my family, or exchange gifts.

Because everyone knows Christians invented those things. Just like they invented Christmas, rather than simply renaming somebody else's holiday, right?

Can we say "eat your cake and choke on it?"


reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 10:59 AM by Good Wolf
reply to post by Terra Serranum


we don't do presents for adults, it's a children's thing.


What a brilliant idea! It gets rid of awful social obligation to get people stuff.
When I forge my own family down the road, I'm going to do that.


reply posted on 31-12-2008 @ 04:34 PM by Terra Serranum
Originally posted by Good Wolf
reply to
post by Terra Serranum


we don't do presents for adults, it's a children's thing.


What a brilliant idea! It gets rid of awful social obligation to get people stuff.
When I forge my own family down the road, I'm going to do that.


Glad I could be of service.

Saves $$ that way regardless. I figure adults are smart enough to shop for themselves, kids need a little help. It's great getting woken up long before the sun appears because the kids are convinced Santa came to the house!
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