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Topic started on 21-12-2008 @ 08:36 AM by doctordoom
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One thing about predictions, or "prophecies".
We don't ever know if they are right, until it happens. What a paradox!
So I sort of rely on reviewing history, conditions of the planet, attitude of the people, and feelings.
If animals can sense an earthquake, and they show emotional behavior, then just think about the capabilities of humans to sense approaching danger.
The network of human thought.
Let's back up our thoughts with some facts. Greed, corruption, and pure evil is loose on the planet.
There's genocides happening on a daily base.
There's chemical poisonings on an epic scale, polluting our oceans, and our
atmosphere.
There's political greed is on a backbreaking (to the "lower" class) scale.
There's "higher education" failing, and producing corrupt elite like Bernard Madoff and more importantly, the people who were "duped" by him.
There's clashes between cultures, and religions, all over the world.
Disease is rampant, and new diseases appear every day.
Africa
In Policy Update #84, there were 39 numbered items number 23 of which said: “We recognize that Africa faces a number of serious challenges,
including poverty, hunger, climate change, and land degradation and desertification, rapid urbanization, lack of adequate water supplies and energy
supply, and HIV/AIDS, malaria, tuberculosis and other endemic diseases.
www.maximsnews.com...
Ukraine
KIEV, Ukraine (AP) — The currency has lost half of its value, tens of thousands face layoffs, residents in the capital are bundling up in winter
clothes as the heat sporadically goes out and Russia is threatening to cut off gas supplies.
It's going to be a tough winter in Ukraine.
www.google.com...
Studies such as “Militarizing American Police: The Rise and Normalization of Paramilitary Units” by Prof. Peter Kraska of the University of
Eastern Kentucky and “Overkill: The Rise of Paramilitary Police Raids in America” by Radley Balko of the Washington-based Cato Institute, have
documented this policy of escalation being adopted by police departments across the U.S. that involved obtaining more powerful and sophisticated
weaponry to go along with their more aggressive policing methods.
With American troop availability already spread thin fighting conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan, along with unpredictable political relations between
India and Pakistan possibly resulting in American military intervention, veterans are concerned that yet another responsibility is going to be placed
on the already overburdened armed forces.
news.newamericamedia.org...
Next, will be a short lesson on "how to hook up a generator to keep your house warm".
People are already falling off the bridge to nowhere.
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reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 08:54 AM by Ex_MislTech
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reply to post by doctordoom
Network of human thought you say ?
Hehehe, have I got some information for you.
Black Box Variations in the Global Random Generator Network
The fact that these spikes in variations from standard random
number generations happens "prior" to major world events
points to something that can see-feel the future, but it is global
in scope on all the boxes.
It "saw" the 2004 Tsunami, it "saw" 9/11 all before it happened.
I find it quite spooky if u ask me, and they have no idea how or
why it works.
They don't know what is going to happen, just that something is
about to happen.
Like some other things, it boggles the mind and makes me wonder
if there is some world wide metaphysical presence that transcends
time and space and trembles prior to the oncoming difficulties of the world.
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reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 08:55 AM by Anti - Government
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Yes it’s plainly obvious to see that present times are looking fairly dark and the future is looking much worse especially with ever increasing
threat of nuclear war not far on the horizon
If animals can sense an earthquake, and they show emotional behavior, then just think about the capabilities of humans to sense approaching danger.
I agree with you here we as humans are animals and im sure that we can sense earthquakes just as well as animals although we may not realize
it just yet we should be more spiritual in our daily lives and become a little bit more in touch with nature
Let's back up our thoughts with some facts. Greed, corruption, and pure evil are loose on the planet.
This is not a new thing this has been happening for a long time from the Stone Age to present day and there has always been greed and a desire for
power and then for even more power that’s the problem with people we like to control other people
Examples like Adolf Hitler who everyone thought was a good and kind person at one point and who was even voted man of the year look how he actually
turned out so anyone can actually turn out to be one of the worst killers in human history so it’s not very easy to trust others in this present day
and age
Also your thread title I thought was quite interesting about us being able to sense the end time and I’ve read allot about it in the past and have
you noticed that you could be spending an entire day with a dyeing loved one and the first 5 minutes that you leave them alone they pass and that’s
due to the fact that we are able to hold on that little bit longer so we can die on our own and in peace
Also I think that us as humans are very easily capable of predicting end times not bye prophesying but just by sensing it as it nears almost
anticpating it every day getting closer we as humans are much more capable that we would like to think
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reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 08:57 AM by captiva
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I agree with your OP in as much as i have felt the end times are coming for about 2 years now. The thing is, i dont need evidence or examples to fuel
this thought. I just know. People , friends, who dont pay that much attention to the media or use forums like ATS also feel it, so I guess its written
in our body clock somewhere. I also agree that a change is needed, a fresh start... and with it, whatever it takes to ensure that fresh start.
respects
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reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 09:17 AM by uplander
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I don't feel like the "end of time" is coming at all. I have my doubts about the economy and know that it's going to get worse before it gets
better. However, this does not equate to a doomed existence on this planet to me.
I am sure that if it were to get out, there are genocides going on RIGHT now in the world. Not just the onle you hear about.
Sickness, disease, greed, lust, well those are just the summation of the human condition. From start to finish (whenever that is) we will all be
this way in varying degrees.
Try to do the best you can with what you've got. For example, it's been foggy and raining here for about 3 days straight. Looking outside right
now it's gorgeous! In the 60's! That's something to think well of in and of itself.
Oh yeah! My family loves me too and I cannot bare to think of them suffering.
So here's my plan, stay with me here, maybe it'll work for you.
1. I'm going to get my lazy ass out of bed and go to work 5 - 6 days a week, like I'm supposed to do.
2. I'm going to work really hard at work - they are paying me so I might as well.
3. I'm going to go to church or do a weekly prayer thingy here at the house. That will involve some meditation and light yoga.
4. I'm going to love my family and spend all the time I can with them in positive ways - no bickering and mess like that.
5. I'm going to live within my means and pay my bills on time.
6. I'm going to be as happy as I can - no matter what ills and ruin may follow.
Because you see, dear friend, you cannot dwell on the future. Seriously. How in the hell can you be present and live today if you are bogged down in
the misery of what you think is ahead?
Sure save your money and buy a few extra groceries here and there, but don't sweat it. Whatever will be will be. Live for today.
Gosh I hope you understand what I'm saying. I love my life and act like it. If you don't love your life C H A N G E it, ok? Then you'll love it
even more.
I have more to say but I think maybe noone wants to listen who is down in a hole and can't see daylight because they are in it so deep.
If you do want to listen, just U2U me. Maybe I can solve some issues for you. I can call this my cheritable work and help my Karma.
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reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 10:03 AM by Kandinsky
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If you read up on your history, you'll find that the end of the world is always around the corner. It seems to be part of the human condition for a
lot of people. Satan, nuclear holocaust, virus, climate catastrophe, asteroid strike, aliens, global warming etc They've all been predicted by people
that were wrong.
This link shows the hundreds of 'end times' prophecies that have failed to happen. One day, maybe one will be right but only by laws of
probability. end of the world
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reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 11:02 AM by Dan5647
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Could this thread have anything to do with 12/21/2012? Since we are almost exactly 4 years away from the end of the world, predicted by the ancient
Mayans, it could bring this sense in mind.
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reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 11:06 AM by -0mega-
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There is one big problem with verifying prophets that have prophecies that happened. Or even verifying the prophecies as being real prophecies in
itself.
Person A predicts that person B will get slapped on the 4th of july.
Person C has heard or read this somewhere (eg.: the internet).
Person C decides to slap person B on the 4th of july, or get person D to slap him.
Prophecy fulfilled.
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reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 11:08 AM by FlyersFan
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Originally posted by doctordoom
Can't you just feel it? The End Is Here
I heard the same thing from people in the early 90's. 'I feel it' 'Can you feel it?' 'I just know this is it'. etc etc. And yet, here the
world is 15 years later .. still alive and still a mess.
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reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 11:24 AM by mortje
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There have always been doomsday-thinkers in every generation.
Numbers and graphs can always be explained afterwards by connecting some event to it, not the other way around.
Having said that, even I'm anxious to see what's going to happen in the next few years. But all those negative info pouring into my brain makes me
very negative which I dislike  . The problem is if you see what's wrong with the system/world it becomes a hell to live in it. You always have
people saying, notice the little things which make life worthwhile and beautiful. But common, it should be the bigger things...
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reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 11:40 AM by INTHESKYWITHDAIMONDS
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I can agree that things look bleak for humanity at this time in history. I do believe that we are being poisoned and that a genocide is coming to
America in the future. I think that over the next few years the world as we know it will change completely. But will it end?....I think not. For in
all this doom and gloom prophecy you speak of you have forgotten to mention a very important variable. Humanity itself. There is still hope for
humanity to overcome this fate.
There IS a global awakening happening right now at a very rapid pace. People are waking up, not only to the corruption of the elites ruling our world,
but to a spiritual consciousness. Humanity will overcome this. Through love and unity. They are few and we are many. We just need to realize it.
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reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 11:52 AM by elysiumfire
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Ok! I can accept that we (as a species) are putting ourselves into positions of great peril, but it has nothing to do with anything supernatural,
spiritual, religious, or anything metaphysical. It is quite simply down to societal systems crumbling due to populations distrusting each other,
domestically and internationally.
There is no political cure for this, for 'trust' is the glue of society, without trust, you don't have a cohesive society. You lose ethical and
moral behaviour because those we entrusted act and live contrary to the ethics and morals they preach. If to be human is to be more than animal, if it
is to act socially responsible in a self-sentient manner, we are very much failing, because we are abrogating social responsibility. If we do not see
it in those we consider to entrust our governance, manage our industries, and other vital societal functions, what incentive is there for any of us to
adhere to the societal systems?
There does not seem to be particular people out there imbiding within their nature altruistic leadership for the common good, it just seems all too
cliquey, and cabal-like, each group seeking to take advantage over others, and to seek to rule. Current governments are merely propping up an
antiquated system that no one wants to adhere to, they're just plastering over the cracks whilst new ones appear in greater numbers. None of their
policies attend to the problems, but merely compound them, making the situation worse.
I think it is inevitable that we have to accept the thinking in current governments, that the scenario is one of failing and hopelessness, and that
their attempts to 'fix', are nothing more than acts of 'breaking'...we just simply do not agree to their solutions, we don't accept them.
Governments are getting more draconian, because they see it as a way of taking charge of the situations, but in the process, they are making enemies
of us all, and they will sacrifice as many as it takes to put society back to what they think it should be, whether you agree with it or not...they
too, feel as hopeless and desperate as we do.
They know that they are incapable of creating a better future for the world, so all their attempts are based upon propping up the present. Their
attempts are not about freedoms and liberties, but about restricting them for the so-called common good. We have all simply lost the wit and the will
to work towards a better future.
Based on present reality, present situations, we will see governments contract away from the people in order to save themselves and their support
agencies. The world will socially polarise, and out of the polarising conflicts will ensue. 2009 we will see social violence escalate, and even more
draconian measures from governments. This will see the full conjoing of governments around the world into that which we most fear...global
government...both draconian and totalitarian. It is not resonant with human hope. We will have to accept the 'new world order', or we have chaos and
total anarchy. That, and only that, is the stark choice for our immediate future.
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reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 12:05 PM by JanusFIN
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Its always closer in places like ATS...
The End.
But then you open TV, or take a walk in the park, and talk with someone "normal" ... Its nowhere to been seen.
Then you open your computer again, connect to the web, look to your screen, and its demanding you to see, and you feel it... The end.
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reply posted on 22-12-2008 @ 02:30 PM by lizziejayne
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reply to post by doctordoom
It may sound a bit bizarre, but I've realised since I was quite young that "the end" will take place within my lifetime. It's a bit hard to
explain, but it is that I just "know" (far from helpful as a description I appreciate!).
As a child, I just "knew" that one day I would have to hide to preserve my life. I "knew" that I would have to live covertly in order to survive.
The feeling seems to permeate throughout my family - even though my family are non-conspiratorial - and seems to take takes various guises (including
the need to perfect rationing etc).
I think that the knowledge is in each of us - perhaps some are more open to it than others... I don't know
What I do know is that these feelings have intensified over the last few years (although I do feel we're still some years off whatever is meant to
happen). Indeed, more and more people I'm talking to are sharing that they also feel that "something's afoot", as it were.
From my perspective, it's as though the cogs have started turning and the countdown has began. It's very hard to qualify; although I'm recognising
key events and *know* that they link together, essentially laying a path to the end events - I haven't got the intellectual capacity to work that
jigsaw out
Hope this makes sense!
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 08:03 AM by Tallsorts
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Originally posted by elysiumfire
Ok! I can accept that we (as a species) are putting ourselves into positions of great peril, but it has nothing to do with anything supernatural,
spiritual, religious, or anything metaphysical. It is quite simply down to societal systems crumbling due to populations distrusting each other,
domestically and internationally.
Populations distrust each other due to the lack of spirituality, and the vast proportion of the World population have quite low levels of
spirituality. That's what causes crime, drug and alcohol addiction, low morals, war, torture, hunger, and a whole host of other unpleasant things.
I am not speaking of religion, supernatural or metaphysical matters; for spirituality is not necessarily associated with any of these things, although
they can be the bottom rungs on the ladder to higher spirituality.
It is very easy to believe in a religion, since it is a matter of faith, yet not to have elevated spiritually through this belief. We see people who
have erected invisible fences around themselves with their religion, through belief, dogma and dress code. By so doing they exclude other members of
society, from other religions and from no religion.
In extreme cases members of religions go to war with each other, and this is due to low levels of spirituality. For when one accepts that all humanity
is related, how can we behave that badly to our brothers and sisters? Such people contribute greatly to the dreadful state of our planet, but whether
it is finished or not, I don't know.
Maybe later today, or tomorrow, there will be a very loud bang, and just like the population of that ancient Roman city of Herculaneum, we'll all be
buried under mountains of hot volcanic lava, and get fried in the process; or not as the case may be.
If it does happen, there's nothing to be done that will stop global meltdown in a geophysical sense, so I'm going to make the best of today, and see
what tomorrow brings.
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 08:15 AM by Copernicus
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What bugs me is that I dont have any faith in humanity. I dont think we will do any better in the future than what we are doing now, not without
outside help anyway. So whats the point of us surviving? Its not like we are contributing to anything or have a purpose. We are not doing anything
worthwhile here anyway.
Im not even depressed, I just think thats a fairly objective look at us as a species.
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 08:53 AM by doctordoom
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It "saw" the 2004 Tsunami, it "saw" 9/11 all before it happened.
I find it quite spooky if u ask me, and they have no idea how or
why it works.
I chalk it up to God. Why do some die, and some don't?
But anyway, I imagine it's would be possible to input into a connection in
the human network that would change feelings.
Heads or Tails.
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 08:57 AM by ChrisCrikey
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I felt it 35 years ago and decided to devote my life to the arts. Was that a mistake? I'm perpetually broke, btw, but still happy to live every day
of my life.
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reply posted on 4-1-2009 @ 12:25 PM by Oldtimer2
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I think that some tough times are ahead but as far as the end of the world I think not,I remember hearing all the doomsday crap,I remember last end of
world was in 1984,so yes the world will end eventually,no one knows the day
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