I suggest you start doing some research for yourself. All of you people who believe whatever the MSM tells you are all in the same boat.

and this is from a person with a computer who has done loads of reaserch watching you tube videos about evil masons. You have never set foot into a lodge or had a real conversation with a mason. While you accuse us of blindly following the MSM, you blindly and aparently without any thought follow the false info presented to you by a vampire who used to be a 91st degree mason. We have all seen those videos. I really worry about the mentality of the ones who believe that garbage. Please do some reaserch yourself. Look at some other sources. And don't anger us or we will cast a spell on you and turn you into a newt.

[edit on 23-12-2008 by network dude]

Originally posted by dalan.But, if the Masonic Lodges had not been tainted by the Rothschild's "Illuminati" then the Masons wouldn't be that bad.

[edit on 12/20/2008 by dalan.]

There is no proof that the Illuminati infiltrated the Masons.

Originally posted by Bl0rg
These "free masons are good people" threads keep coming up more than the anti-freemason threads? Funny ain't it?

The truth shall set you free.

Originally posted by strokker
Food for thought...To the initiates of the 33degree...Draw a circle...mark out 33degrees of the circle in red .That is you... now blacken the other 327degrees...That is the "dark part" you need to learn about to come "FULL CIRCLE" to realize the true meaning of your "benevolent fraternity" HAPPY TRAILS..... DIRT

That doesn't even make any sense. ^ Another ignorant soul.

Originally posted by Outlawstar
Oh and funny how some of these all singing, all dancing, freemasons are also members of satan worshipping secret societies, and mass murderers......hmm, seeing how it just doesint fit?

Where is your proof of this or are you just going to slander without evidence?

Originally posted by Outlawstar
Listen, no-one is "seeing darkness where there is none", no doubt that the masons are good people, and Im not saying Im right in my opinion, but like I said earlier, there is more reason than just "seeing darkness where there is none" to why people question the motives of the upper ranks.
A lot more reason.

Can you name some of these high level public officials that are also in the upper ranks? I would like names, titles, and jurisdictions.

This is why I get annoyed with conspiracy theorists. They think they have attained some sacred knowledge that no one else, but them or a select few have. And that no one else is smarter than them because they must be right. They will even claim that members of an organization are ignorant to the facts, but they, they, a non-member do know the facts. It's arrogance at its highest level.

[edit on 23-12-2008 by KSigMason]

[edit on 23-12-2008 by KSigMason]

The sooner these so called Secret Societies are disbanded - the better. If all Masons wore some form of identification to identify themselves as Lodge Members - very few people would entertain them either in business or on a personal level. They would very soon come to realise the reason for such secrecy.

In effect, all Freemasonry does is to provide its members with the opportunity to be bigoted and elitist - without fear of recrimination.

Originally posted by SCARLET HEAVEN
The sooner these so called Secret Societies are disbanded - the better. If all Masons wore some form of identification to identify themselves as Lodge Members - very few people would entertain them either in business or on a personal level. They would very soon come to realise the reason for such secrecy.

In effect, all Freemasonry does is to provide its members with the opportunity to be bigoted and elitist - without fear of recrimination.

Alot of freemasons do openly wear some form of Identification.. A ring, or pin, a sticker or even license plate on thier vehicle proclaiming them a mason. etc..
More often than not I have seen them treated with respect rather than being shunned..
Just a personal observation..

There is some almighty tosh about Free masonry here but thank God for Scientology or ther'd be a whole lot more fantastic and well-knotted fits of nonsense stretched upon this skein.

Originally posted by Bl0rg
These "free masons are good people" threads keep coming up more than the anti-freemason threads? Funny ain't it?

Not really. I think it owes far more to social dynamics than any big conspiracy. If variations of a theory are pushed hard enough - as they are on this website - then eventually there will be a 'backlash', even a relatively small one. People will feel the need to redress a balance.

Ignore the fact that this is about Masons specifically and substitute 'Freemason' for 'Christian', 'evolutionist', 'Democrat', 'Republican', 'Niburu believer', 'Niburu non-believer' and so on, and you can see similar patterns of responses as to the threads and posts that are trying to portray Freemasonry in a positive light.

Personally, I glad that these positive portrayals exist as some of the negative threads are amongst the most desperate and tenacious threads on the whole site.

Originally posted by SCARLET HEAVEN
The sooner these so called Secret Societies are disbanded - the better. If all Masons wore some form of identification to identify themselves as Lodge Members - very few people would entertain them either in business or on a personal level. They would very soon come to realise the reason for such secrecy.

I heard about a society that did something fairly similar once. I'm sure you've heard about it too.

It's funny but so much of this site deals with concepts such as 'freedom' and 'liberty'; generally railing against intrusive Orwellian governments and here you are suggesting that people wear badges that mark them out from the rest of us?

Even if they did wear some kind of identification, then what? It wouldn't stop me personally from dealing with them on a personal or business level. Why should it? For one, a persons skin colour, religion or political allegiance doesn't stop me from engaging with people, so I'm sure why Masonic membership would.

Secondly, even if the some of the claims made here and elsewhere about Masons were true, I very much doubt - and has been admitted by many detractors - that day-to-day Masons aren't actually part of some grand conspiracy. It's always a case of a perceived 'higher ranking' clique of Masons that truly know the score and that the Masons on message boards like this, and that you're likely to come across in your own life, are as removed from their orchestrations as the rest of us.

So, if that's the case, why shun a majority for the alleged/imagined actions of a minority? Do you do this with black people because you've seen news reports about black muggers or thieves? Perhaps with Muslims because a tiny fraction of them are terrorists? Or assuming that you're heterosexual, perhaps with members of the opposite sex because you got dumped once?

Here's the thing - there really shouldn't be any threads in this forum (Secret Societies) "supportive" of Freemasonry. The first sentence in the Notice at the top of every thread page in this forum says-

This forum is for the discussion and speculation of conspiracy theories, scandals, secrets, cover-ups and related historical events involving secret societies and related groups.

Therefore, any thread started regarding the positive aspects of any secret society, fraternity, organization, should be moved somewhere else. This forum is designed for conspiracies. Naturally, members of Freemasonry or any other organization are welcome to post their on-topic T&C compliant thoughts.

I know we don't always catch them all, but the threads about "how do I join the ??? club" or "my club, the Royal Order of Spotted Hyenas, is really cool because..." do not belong in this particular forum.

If one peruses the Secret Societies forum and gets the impression that there's a negative perception of secret societies, that would be an accurate observation given the nature of the forum. On the other hand, any member of any organization is free to post their perspective as well, as long as they're following the site rules.