I can't believe the total rubbish about Free Masonary on this site!!, page 1
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reply posted on 20-12-2008 @ 07:32 PM by RuneSpider
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no, they aren't. And no, they havn't.
As for the OP, this thread will probably be moved to Rants. Just so you know.
As for why people keep posting this stuff, it's better to blame something, than nothing, and have to take responsibility for the problems you see.


reply posted on 20-12-2008 @ 08:54 PM by Outlawstar
Originally posted by RuneSpider
reply to
post by dalan.



no, they aren't. And no, they havn't.
As for the OP, this thread will probably be moved to Rants. Just so you know.
As for why people keep posting this stuff, it's better to blame something, than nothing, and have to take responsibility for the problems you see.


Oh please, the upper ranks of the Masons are I suppose just by coincidence, high ranking figures in world politics and buisness, come on, put 2 and 2 together, theres clearly more to freemasonry than the "public version" shall we say.
Oh and funny how some of these all singing, all dancing, freemasons are also members of satan worshipping secret societies, and mass murderers......hmm, seeing how it just doesint fit?



reply posted on 20-12-2008 @ 09:38 PM by RuneSpider
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Sure, sorry about that. Should have added that when I originally posted.
Masonic Power Myth


reply posted on 20-12-2008 @ 10:10 PM by LowLevelMason
Originally posted by strokker
Food for thought...To the initiates of the 33degree...Draw a circle...mark out 33degrees of the circle in red .That is you... now blacken the other 327degrees...That is the "dark part" you need to learn about to come "FULL CIRCLE" to realize the true meaning of your "benevolent fraternity" HAPPY TRAILS..... DIRT




Listen..I understand the allure of believing there is some evil dark brotherhood that is out to rule the world. It makes life exciting. But before you believe in stuff like this...would you please do some research? The "degrees" in freemasonry mark points of learning, much like a university degree (although university degrees take far more work, the basic principle is the same). While the whole "OMG there are 360 degrees!!!!1111" is entertaining its based off a complete misunderstanding of the word degree.

I know you think it sounds good because Freemasonry is about geometry and it fits well, but its really not what it represents.

I think I'm going to copy and paste this somewhere because I find myself saying this often, but once more:
There is no degree higher in freemasonry than the 3rd degree, or master mason. That is in fact the entire point of the fraternity - that all its members meet on the same level. Degrees that are numerically higher than the 3rd are optional degrees from various side orders that do not confer power, rank, or authority. A 33rd degree Scottish Rite mason has the same amount of power and rank as a 3rd degree master mason.

The obsession with the Scottish Rite degrees I suspect is mainly because it has higher numbers, and that makes people think those numbers must mean higher power or authority. It is not.

All of the following people are of the same power/rank/authority within freemasonry:
Master Mason (highest degree of the blue lodge)
Inspector General Honorary (honorary degree of the Scottish Rite)
Knight Templar (highest degree of the York Rite)


reply posted on 20-12-2008 @ 10:42 PM by Secret Master
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though i usually dont get into the high/low degree debate, just this once i am gonna have to step up and back LLM.

a 3rd degree mason can be elected to the absolute highest masonic office in a state, which is the head of a grand lodge.

The head man for a grandlodge has a rediculous amount of authority over the practice of masonry through out his state. Including the ability to bring formal grievance against another grand lodge and even the right to offically cut ties with another state.

If the 3rd degree are all chumps compared to the 33rd... or the fabled 360th* why would he be allowed to preside over an entire state and have to ability to all but declare war on another GL?


reply posted on 20-12-2008 @ 10:51 PM by seek4 truth
Originally posted by Secret Master
Originally posted by seek4 truth
Masons are like christians, they dont know why they belong or how it all started. They just know if a few pesents at the bottom hand out a few poor people a dollar every once in a while they must all be great. Give me a break, both of these organizations were started by the same people and if any members at the bottom are either to stupid or to lazy to sort through the old museum relics to find out what they are involved in, they truly should be treated as war criminals. You know what they say, when it comes to the law, ignorance is no excuse.

[edit on 20-12-2008 by seek4 truth]


Um.. christianity was started by the sun worshipping pagan emporer of rome, freemasonry was started something like 1500 years later by brits and scots... are you suggesting that constantine was immortal and moved to britian where he secretly started an organization which was immediately branded an enemy of the church... the church he started, upon it's inception?

Cause if you are... i suggest you copyright that story and sell it to hollywood
I suggest you start doing some research for yourself. All of you people who believe whatever the MSM tells you are all in the same boat. You have a lot of research to do far to much to mention to convince you if at all possible. You will have to learn for yourself and the further you go behind the curtain, the more you are going to say what the hell. I cant do it for you, you have to do it for yourself, you have to break away from what has been told to you and use your head to put these things they have not together. This will take you a long time, time they dont intend most of us to ever have. what is going to piss you off the most is when you go to make a movie of it and the studios wont touch it. You will think to yourself this is the most thorough and complete work I have ever seen anybody do, why will they not touch it, and that is when it will hit you full force, that is when you will realize that this has been going on for so long that you will never live long enough to realize what all they have done to you and your family.


[edit on 20-12-2008 by seek4 truth]


reply posted on 20-12-2008 @ 11:37 PM by ShAuNmAn-X
reply to post by Seren Dda


This my friend is the reason why I usually don't frequent the secret societies forum. I agree that if all of mankind would adopt the tenets of freemasonry the world would be a better place. I have never understood why people demonize an organization that cares about their fellow man and respects everyone of all beliefs. The masons are the only people who seem to understand as a group that all people are in this together and we need to work with one another to make the world a better place. Just my .02
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