There is a lot to cover here, and I don't think I can do it all at once. If anyone wants to ask a specific question, I can try to answer it.
Yaldabaoth is the planet Saturn. This is not specifically Yahweh in the Old Testament, but the big daddy god, "El." The Gnostics interpreted the
real story of the OT as the battle between Sophia and Yaldabaoth, which is why there can still be "good" parts of the text.
Aristotle envisioned an active, masculine element bringing life to an inert, passive, female element, and this is presupposed by the Gnostics. The
story of his creation from Sophia goes back to Egyptian mythology:
Before this [sensible] cosmos became manifest, and Matter was perfected by Reason (Logos), Nature, proving herself imperfect, of herself brought
forth her first birth. Wherefore also they say that that God was lame in the dark, and call him Elder Horus; for he was not cosmos, but a sort of
image and phantasm of the world which was to be. (Plutarch, Isis and Osiris, LIV, 5-6)
Yaldabaoth means "child of chaos." He is wholly a product of emotion, which is, in modern occult parlance, "astral" substance.
The Gnostics conceived of everything as both macrocosm
, and there are two interpretations here: the psychological, or
Jungian, and the sexual. The sexual aspect is quite interesting, but I don't quite think I can do it justice at the moment.
However, note that Yaldabaoth was perceived as the creator of human bodies, and then observe that the Gnostics, both libertine and ascetic, were
almost universally opposed to having children. By doing so, they would be carrying on the work of Yaldabaoth, the Demiurge (emphasis on "urge").
In addition to the Nag Hammadi texts, the best place to go for what the Gnostics really
thought is probably the Church Father Hippolytus'
Refutation of All Heresies
. It is valuable because Hippolytus' method of "refutation" is simply to copy out extremely lengthy passages from
Gnostic texts under the presumption that they will refute themselves! He also tries to show that the Gnostics stole all of their teachings from Greek
philosophy, which is quite a step up from attributing them all to the work of Satan:
Originally posted by Shar_Chi
I've commented on this elsewhere as the concept is fascinating to contemplate, God being evil demiurge, rather than supreme creator. This concept of
the demiurge is the underlying philosophy of gnostic luciferianism as far as I can ascertain. Lucifer being the entity or such that seeks to help
mankind escape this prison universe. I personally see this doctrine as the underlying spiritual driving force behind the NWO.
My judgement of this doctrine, is based on witnessing the actions of those who seem to adhere to it... neurotically selfish, greedy, destructive,
showing nothing but disrespect to the earth and nature in some kind of childish rebellion. It's a great but painful lesson.
Understanding this concept I think is key to understanding western religious philosophy and its emanations flowing through our civilisation. I'll be
interested to follow the thread, although I'll be away a week or so.
, who was by all estimates a well respected philosopher and not a conspiracy
theorist, had much of the same ideas about how "Gnosticism" was behind totalitarian political movements. I can't say I quite buy it, but I suppose
it is possible.
Supposing for a moment that there is a great global conspiracy: the posts by this "Insider" seem to have much more in common with Neoplatonism. The
"Insider" envisions the world as being governed by divine hierarchies, all operating under the guidance of a "Divine Plan" from God. He also
specifically says that to declare the world to be evil and flawed was blasphemous, because God could not make mistakes!
So here we have him
essentially echoing the same accusations that people like Plotinus and Irenaeus made against
If this is is Gnosticism, "they" have obviously found it more expedient to side with the Archons. Moreover, if these Gnostic power-players want to
free us from the prison universe, why would they want to do just the opposite by instituting a "New World Order" police state? Or have we misjudged
their supposed intentions?
So it seems more likely that Gnosticism and so-called Luciferianism spring from a common source; those being the esoteric traditions that are
thousands of years old.
Note, moreover, a very important aspect: much of the same terminology and symbols from Gnosticism are used in Hermetic Alchemy. Yaldabaoth is the
"Black Sun" that must be transmuted into the true "Sun of Righteousness," Christ. And much more on this can be said.