Here's a radical thought. Maybe it was an accident.

Originally posted by ofhumandescent

Dorothy Kilgallen (journalist who was going to disclose a secret meeting of the world's military heads concerning UFO's).

[edit on 21-12-2008 by ofhumandescent]

Kilgallen was set to blow the JFK assassination case wide open as well, but she died in her sleep from a drug overdose. Her notes from the interview with Jack Ruby and the article she was writing on the case had disappeared from her room as well. She did give a draft of the interview to a friend probably because she was fearful for her life. Several other writers involved in the Ruby/Oswald case also died mysterious deaths. I didn't know about the UFO stuff.

I don't hesitate to believe the government will kill their own people to keep their secrets safe or to advance their selfish ambitions. It's a sad world we live in.

If there actually is a God, the shenanigans of Rove, Cheney, Gonzalez and all the rest of GWB's crew will come out into the daylight.

I will be paying close attention to where this particular story goes. I mean, supposedly it is a fairly well documented case that threats were made against this man. By whom, time will tell.

What I'm waiting for is to see this account buried and passed off as inconsiquential until it is conveniently forgotten.

I'm especially looking forward to how Fox News handles this story, seeing as Rove is on their staff.

If it is ultimately proved that Rove was involved in election fraud or threats made against this man and his family, not counting if he was involved in a "hit', it would spell the death of FOX. Who's their next staffer, Cheney?

This may have already been stated...but I may have missed it.

The idea of "running out of gas " in a plane is the "ballon" in a gas tank mob deal.

Sticks out like a sore thumb to me, but, hey, accidents happen.

As A NE Ohio pilot and former flight instructor, I have to chime in. Anonymously, sorry. I know these planes, taught in them, and even survived an accident in a small twin plane.

Conspiracy theorists have looked to the fatal downing of Bonanza N7472N several days earlier as a "test run" sabotage with an unknown before this crash of N9299N with Connell. Good for fiction but way off reality. This is a bad time fo year to fly around here.

His plane was not equipped with de-ice on wings as reported elsewhere - at least it was not when advertised for sale in 2003, and rarely do these ever get full de-ice.. It can easily go 4-5 hours on a tank of gas, so one report of out of gas is likely wrong. However, Friday had a lot of icing rain in the area. A bit of that can significantly reduce lift. And if he was on final to Akron, holding airspeed above stall in a Saratoga TC with icing and gear down, is very tricky. Initial reports suggest he probably did a very good job trying to perform an emergency landing, but a flagpole connected with his wing and he would have been unable to control the landing after that.

Many off runway accidents leave the pilot alive because of training, and the availability of decent landing sites. If he had gear down, was set to land in a spot that had a high probability of success, I have to doubt this was sabotage. He was certainly alert at the time. Just too much room and opportunity for the pilot to survive. If someone wants a person gone in an airplane crash, there are cleaner ways to do it with more probability for success.

This probe may have been a contributing factor in his death - stress, the need to travel during the holidays, focus on this more than flying, etc. But I for one can not put government conspiracy into the minds of his four kids just because it satisfies our morbid curiosity of high drama in politics.

Originally posted by UFOTECH
He was flying a piper super cub.

The super cub also is very light and will glide nicely without power for a considerable distance.


[edit on 12/20/2008 by UFOTECH]

No, actually it was N9299N, a Piper Turbo Saratoga, a 300 hp PA32-301T manufactured in 1997. It has a max gross weight of 3600 pounds and a max cruise airspeed of 165 knots (about 190 mph). If you do everything right it has a range limit of 627 nm. The one way distance between Akron Canton airport and College Park is 239nm, or round trip of 478nm. The Super Cub is a 1750 pound (max gross) 150 hp PA-18, with a cruise speed of about 100 knots. The Cleveland Center radar track shows a gradual decrease in cruise ground speed at the cruising altitude of 6,000 feet msl followed by a gradual loss of altitude of about 100 feet/minute to 5,600' and then a more rapid descent of 425'/minute to a level off at 3,300' followed by a groundspeed loss of 11 knots. All of this is consistent with airframe/propeller icing. The Saratoga was not certified for flight into known icing conditions and rarely, if ever, had deicing or anti ice equipment retrofitted, except for the standard alternate air source for induction icing. And Akron reported .97 inches of precip that day with an afternoon high of 45 deg F. At 6'000' the temp would have been about 24 degrees, perfect for either clear or rime icing.

If he's a witness in a serious case such as this, and request witness protection, why wasn't it granted?

Not a one-liner. It's a pertinent question.