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reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 11:24 AM by liveandlearn
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reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 11:27 AM by Anonymous ATS
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Here's a radical thought. Maybe it was an accident.
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reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 01:24 PM by Kratos1220
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Originally posted by ofhumandescent
Dorothy Kilgallen (journalist who was going to disclose a secret meeting of the world's military heads concerning UFO's).
[edit on 21-12-2008 by ofhumandescent]
Kilgallen was set to blow the JFK assassination case wide open as well, but she died in her sleep from a drug overdose. Her notes from the interview
with Jack Ruby and the article she was writing on the case had disappeared from her room as well. She did give a draft of the interview to a friend
probably because she was fearful for her life. Several other writers involved in the Ruby/Oswald case also died mysterious deaths. I didn't know
about the UFO stuff.
I don't hesitate to believe the government will kill their own people to keep their secrets safe or to advance their selfish ambitions. It's a sad
world we live in.
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reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 02:32 PM by zlots331
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If there actually is a God, the shenanigans of Rove, Cheney, Gonzalez and all the rest of GWB's crew will come out into the daylight.
I will be paying close attention to where this particular story goes. I mean, supposedly it is a fairly well documented case that threats were made
against this man. By whom, time will tell.
What I'm waiting for is to see this account buried and passed off as inconsiquential until it is conveniently forgotten.
I'm especially looking forward to how Fox News handles this story, seeing as Rove is on their staff.
If it is ultimately proved that Rove was involved in election fraud or threats made against this man and his family, not counting if he was involved
in a "hit', it would spell the death of FOX. Who's their next staffer, Cheney?
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reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 04:33 PM by zlots331
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I went to where I usually get my daily news (Roadrunner main page) to see what it had to say about this "accident". I had to dig a little until I
found it but it summed up what I just said above.
Nothing to see here people, move along, the exit is on your right.
www.rr.com...
COLUMBUS, Ohio(AP) An Ohio pilot who died in a small plane crash was a Republican media consultant who helped operate campaign Web sites for
President Bush and former presidential nominee John McCain. Forty-five-year-old Michael Connell of Akron was killed Friday when his plane crashed
near a vacant house in a rural area of Uniontown, about 10 miles southeast of Akron. He was attempting to land the aircraft at the nearby Akron-Canton
Airport. Connell was the CEO and founder of Cleveland-based New Media Communications, which built campaign Web sites for Bush and McCain, according
to the company's Web site. The site says the company also worked with the Ohio Republican Party, the Republican National Committee and other
political groups. No one on the ground was injured. The plane did not have any passengers.
I'll look around a little more to see what other kind of articles from the MSM have to say. Please add your own. I'm curious how this will be
handled.
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reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 05:22 PM by Anonymous ATS
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reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 05:27 PM by Clearskies
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Allegedly, Mr. Rove had threatened Connell;
Here.
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reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 05:43 PM by whiteraven
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This may have already been stated...but I may have missed it.
The idea of "running out of gas " in a plane is the "ballon" in a gas tank mob deal.
Sticks out like a sore thumb to me, but, hey, accidents happen.
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reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 07:31 PM by Anonymous ATS
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As A NE Ohio pilot and former flight instructor, I have to chime in. Anonymously, sorry. I know these planes, taught in them, and even survived an
accident in a small twin plane.
Conspiracy theorists have looked to the fatal downing of Bonanza N7472N several days earlier as a "test run" sabotage with an unknown before this
crash of N9299N with Connell. Good for fiction but way off reality. This is a bad time fo year to fly around here.
His plane was not equipped with de-ice on wings as reported elsewhere - at least it was not when advertised for sale in 2003, and rarely do these ever
get full de-ice.. It can easily go 4-5 hours on a tank of gas, so one report of out of gas is likely wrong. However, Friday had a lot of icing rain in
the area. A bit of that can significantly reduce lift. And if he was on final to Akron, holding airspeed above stall in a Saratoga TC with icing and
gear down, is very tricky. Initial reports suggest he probably did a very good job trying to perform an emergency landing, but a flagpole connected
with his wing and he would have been unable to control the landing after that.
Many off runway accidents leave the pilot alive because of training, and the availability of decent landing sites. If he had gear down, was set to
land in a spot that had a high probability of success, I have to doubt this was sabotage. He was certainly alert at the time. Just too much room and
opportunity for the pilot to survive. If someone wants a person gone in an airplane crash, there are cleaner ways to do it with more probability for
success.
This probe may have been a contributing factor in his death - stress, the need to travel during the holidays, focus on this more than flying, etc. But
I for one can not put government conspiracy into the minds of his four kids just because it satisfies our morbid curiosity of high drama in politics.
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reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 08:07 PM by Cairowoman
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Originally posted by Clearskies
Allegedly, Mr. Rove had threatened Connell;
Here.
OMG! If this is true this is really sick!
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reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 08:12 PM by The cult of Osiris
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reply to post by Leo Strauss
Reminds me of the Ron Brown plane crash during clinton's days in the office.
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reply posted on 21-12-2008 @ 08:15 PM by Cairowoman
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Originally posted by The cult of Osiris
reply to post by Leo Strauss
Reminds me of the Ron Brown plane crash during clinton's days in the office.
Exactly, Osirus but if you look at the post above that warns you against working the elections by liveandlearn shows thats the preferred method of
silence.
BTW liveandlearn great find!
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reply posted on 22-12-2008 @ 09:35 AM by 4nsicdoc
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Originally posted by UFOTECH
He was flying a piper super cub.
The super cub also is very light and will glide nicely without power for a considerable distance.
[edit on 12/20/2008 by UFOTECH]
No, actually it was N9299N, a Piper Turbo Saratoga, a 300 hp PA32-301T manufactured in 1997. It has a max gross weight of 3600 pounds and a max cruise
airspeed of 165 knots (about 190 mph). If you do everything right it has a range limit of 627 nm. The one way distance between Akron Canton airport
and College Park is 239nm, or round trip of 478nm. The Super Cub is a 1750 pound (max gross) 150 hp PA-18, with a cruise speed of about 100 knots.
The Cleveland Center radar track shows a gradual decrease in cruise ground speed at the cruising altitude of 6,000 feet msl followed by a gradual loss
of altitude of about 100 feet/minute to 5,600' and then a more rapid descent of 425'/minute to a level off at 3,300' followed by a groundspeed loss
of 11 knots. All of this is consistent with airframe/propeller icing. The Saratoga was not certified for flight into known icing conditions and
rarely, if ever, had deicing or anti ice equipment retrofitted, except for the standard alternate air source for induction icing. And Akron reported
.97 inches of precip that day with an afternoon high of 45 deg F. At 6'000' the temp would have been about 24 degrees, perfect for either clear or
rime icing.
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reply posted on 22-12-2008 @ 09:39 AM by AllSeeingI
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BREAKING NEWS UPDATE: Raw Story: GOP consultant killed in plane
crash was warned of sabotage: report
"Connell...was apparently told by a close friend not to fly his plane because his plane might be sabotaged," Renault said. "And twice in the last
two months Connell, who is an experienced pilot, cancelled two flights because of suspicious problems with his plane."
Here is a link to the FAA webpage for the Registration info on this aircraft: N9299N.
FAA Registry N9299N
Serial Number 3257018
Type Registration Corporation
Manufacturer Name PIPER
Certificate Issue Date 08/21/2007
Model PA-32R-301T
Status Valid
Type Aircraft Fixed Wing Single-Engine
Type Engine Reciprocating
Pending Number Change None
Dealer No
Date Change Authorized None
Mode S Code 53161471
MFR Year 1997
Fractional Owner NO
Registered Owner
Name SIERRA-NOVEMBER AVIATION INC
Street 3046 BRECKSVILLE RD
City RICHFIELD
State OHIO
Zip Code 44286-9399
County SUMMIT
Country UNITED STATES
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reply posted on 22-12-2008 @ 09:50 AM by AllSeeingI
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Just thought I would check....
....but of course, no mention of this on Karl Rove's website.
www.rove.com
Just look at his squinty smug face!
It says: 'I know something you dont know'
If anyone cares to watch him (maybe see if he is nervous or squirmier than usual) he will be on O'Reilly Dec. 22 at 8pm est, and on Hannity Dec 23 at
9pm est.
[edit on (12/22/08) by AllSeeingI]
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reply posted on 22-12-2008 @ 01:00 PM by on_yur_6
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reply to post by Anonymous ATS
Starting to lean that way myself. Some of these "death lists" do show some fishy deaths but the one thing we all have in common is that we all are
going to die.
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reply posted on 22-12-2008 @ 01:19 PM by foremanator
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reply posted on 22-12-2008 @ 01:26 PM by clay2 baraka
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The man was warned about possible tampering to his plane:
ithout getting into specific details, 19 Action News reporter Blake Renault reported Sunday evening that 45-year-old Republican operative and
experienced pilot had been warned not to fly his plane in the days before the crash.
"Connell...was apparently told by a close friend not to fly his plane because his plane might be sabotaged," Renault said. "And twice in the
last two months Connell, who is an experienced pilot, cancelled two flights because of suspicious problems with his plane."
There were prior requests made to the Justice department to place him in witness protection:
Arnebeck warned the Justice Department that Connell's safety was in jeopardy earlier this year. In July, he wrote an email to Attorney General
Michael Mukasey, requesting witness protection for the GOP operative, which was carbon copied to Democratic Congressmen John Conyers, Jr. (D-MI) and
Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), who were sympathetic to his 2004 lawsuit over Ohio's electoral votes.
SOURCE
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reply posted on 22-12-2008 @ 05:25 PM by mirageofdeceit
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If he's a witness in a serious case such as this, and request witness protection, why wasn't it granted?
Not a one-liner. It's a pertinent question.
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