Why do Masons call themselves "Worshipful Master"?, page 3

reply to post by network dude

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I have heard that B'nai B'rith (an all Jewish lodge) was Masonic in nature. Is this so? Is it even Masonic? Or just prapagnda? I have always read that Masonry was all inclusive and bars no one.

reply to post by lazy1981

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In the mid-1800's, a group of Jewish-German immigrants sought to find fraternity and fellowship with others of similar background. Although many of these men felt comfortable joining groups such as the Masons and Odd Fellows, others wanted a more ethnic-religious centered group and thus in 1844, the Jewish fraternal order of B'nai B'rith was formed, seeking to reconcile Judaism with American society through voluntary association.

www.masonicinfo.com...

Originally posted by DoctorDoom
Wow. I' amazed at the amount of Masons posting on this website

It's like I've been approached by a gang of worshippers.

Ten Masons have replied to you in a thread that you directed towards them specifically. Out of the thousand or so odd members of ATS.

The way you complain about it, it's almost like you're a troll or something.

reply to post by RuneSpider

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Thanks for the info. I was just wondering, someone said that there are no exclusive lodges and who better to here the truth then from the horses mouth. The internet will give you just about any hit, pro or con.

Originally posted by doctordoom
The term "worshipful master" has a Jonestown ring to it to me.

Let's take a look at the word "worshipful".

The American Heritage Dictionary defines worship as "the reverent love and allegiance accorded a deity, idol, or sacred object." The Greek words for worship combine the ideas of "falling down before," "paying homage to," and "serving." From these definitions it is obvious that worship involves recognition of worth in God, and the offering of our honor, praise, and adoration to the One who is altogether worthy.

www.newtestamentchurch.org...

The word worship is reserved for a deity, idol or sacred object.
What makes a Mason a deity?
It's rather quite silly if you ask me.

So, I guess my question is, do you actually worship the "Worshipful Master" if you are a lower Mason?

Also, is there a higher level than the "Worshipful Master"?

Check out a Google search of the term "worshipful"

[edit on 20-12-2008 by doctordoom]

Usually people with overly needy egos will require some measure of self-glorification. Often this becomes apparent in the assumption of titles. Sure it's old English yet the meaning is constant and clear to those assuming the title. They derive pleasure and satisfaction, maybe even a sense of accomplishment from it. Essentially, if you couldn't earn an academic title you can still call yourself "worshipful master." Whether this is contravening and insulting to God's law is of course of no great importance for some.
We've seen the parade of self styled Generallissimo's, Emperors of the Sun, Fuhrer, 'Father' Stalin, Protectors of the Realm, God's Vicar on Earth, Prophets and so forth. His Earthly Worship the Prince of Wales is pretty hilarious too!

reply to post by civilized mammal

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civilized mammal: "hilarious too! "... What I find is hilarious is that people worry about the "title" a group uses and ignoring the reason they use it.
Even more hilarious is the assumption that anyone who chose to be Master of a Lodge " couldn't earn an academic title" ....
This really is a pathetic topic

reply to post by civilized mammal

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You seriously don't think any actual WM calls himself worshipful do you? Please. I've never seen in all my years.

reply to post by civilized mammal

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They derive pleasure and satisfaction, maybe even a sense of accomplishment from it. Essentially, if you couldn't earn an academic title you can still call yourself "worshipful master."

Interesting. I usually have the same opinion who claim to understand something they don't spend a day research, or fringe scientists pushing a new cure for cancer.

reply to post by doctordoom

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It's already been explained how the context and origin of the usage was derived. If you want to assign any additional connotations, that's your prerogative, but it doesn't make your assertion any more valid.

Originally posted by BlueRaja
reply to post by doctordoom

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It's already been explained how the context and origin of the usage was derived. If you want to assign any additional connotations, that's your prerogative, but it doesn't make your assertion any more valid.

Well, there has been 15 posts since I posted last, all supporting the Masons.

Go figure.

Must have hit a sore spot

reply to post by doctordoom

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Or, could it be that the truth is so overwhelmingly obvious but you don't want to accept it, so you look for other ways to explain it?

Originally posted by intrepid
reply to post by doctordoom

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So you're saying that CO's and lawyers that use the term "Your Worship" are "tentacles of the Anti-Christian beast?"

That's really a redundent statement.....the "worship" has nothing to do with it man! LOL

Oh if the Anti Masons only knew just how little respect most "Worshipful Masters" have to put up with.....

Originally posted by LowLevelMason
reply to post by doctordoom

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Or, could it be that the truth is so overwhelmingly obvious but you don't want to accept it, so you look for other ways to explain it?

Then, we would have no conspiracy, now would we,
and this site would be moot.

reply to post by doctordoom

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We're just setting the record straight and informing the other members.

reply to post by doctordoom

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Not really, there are many conspiracies, this site does not support itself by Masonry conspiracies alone.

However, there is a difference between conspiracies or critical thinking, and blatantly ignoring information and making insulting statements both to members of this site and people you've never met in any shape or form.

Originally posted by RuneSpider
reply to post by doctordoom

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Not really, there are many conspiracies, this site does not support itself by Masonry conspiracies alone.

Why come no one seems to pick on the Odd Fellows?

I mean........their Odd.

[edit on 9/1/2009 by ForkandSpoon]

reply to post by doctordoom

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I'm not a Mason myself, but I do understand how terminology has to be taken into the original context and intent.

reply to post by doctordoom

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No, then we would acknowledge that everything ISN'T a conspiracy. The title "worshipful master" has nothing to do with worship, and is a title masters themselves never use to describe themselves. Facts. Not a conspiracy.

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