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Originally posted by Hanslune
Advanced stone work. There would be no skyscrapers, no 10-key adding machines, no computers, no massive steel bridges, nor any other large technological advancement reminder of any kind. No satellites.
Hans: Perhaps but in many areas, huge chunks’ of concrete, masses of brick, glass, ceramic, gems, refined metal, plastic, etc. Besides the regular trash and buried bones. There would still be satellites up in the higher orbits and stuff on the Moon and Mars. The pyramids will still be there too!
10-12.000 years ago, geologists will tell you that the North American continent during a catastrophic event lost 150 species with a body weight exceeding 100 pounds. So your assumption that nothing happened 10-12,000 years ago is incorrect.
When I spoke of the time span, I postulated that if our timeline between catastrophic events were cut to even 90% of this last geological period, we'd have little to leave behind.
Your brick, concrete, glass, steel, etc., are very recent developments, and only began to show up in the last 2% of the last 10,000 years.
I stand by my assumptions.
I wonder if maybe you're giving the materials we use today too much credit. (snip) And all that would take place in less that 1000 years... but of course that's saying there is no one left to maintain them, but either way our civilization (the buildings and materials) would effectively be gone forever in a tenth of the time that Egypt, Babylon or Sumner have laid buried.
As for spoken language it is forever evolving, which means if there was a mass extinction tomorrow, the survivors could be speaking an entirely different language than us in less than a couple hundred years.
If you want an example of this look no farther than the English language. We currently have words in our language that didn't exist 200 years ago, not too mention some of the words have changed their meaning. A good example of this is the word Gay 200 years ago, even as little as 50 years ago, meant happy now it means Homosexual.
Culture, that's something that would take quite sometime to get rid of, mostly because it would comfort people to have something of the 'old' world to hold onto. Even still a couple hundred years and most of the staples of our civilization would loose their meaning or be changed to meet different requirements.
However on topic, I do have a question that maybe someone who has more knowledge in archeology might be able to answer, and hey it's even semi on topic . Is it possible that an advanced civilization could have been missed if only because another civilization rose up on its remains either destroying the previous ones 'foot print' or simply over writing it effectively hiding it from our notice?
As far as the artifacts, you speak of archaeology. There's only been development over the past 200 years.
10-12.000 years ago, geologists will tell you that the North American continent during a catastrophic event lost 150 species with a body weight exceeding 100 pounds. So your assumption that nothing happened 10-12,000 years ago is incorrect.
When I spoke of the time span, I postulated that if our timeline between catastrophic events were cut to even 90% of this last geological period, we'd have little to leave behind.
Your brick, concrete, glass, steel, etc., are very recent developments, and only began to show up in the last 2% of the last 10,000 years.
The easiest way to hide something is to ensure that no one is looking for it.
Originally posted by Hanslune
Who would have ensured this and what would they be hiding?
humans hide treasure. if they find something they cannot move then they use the arts of misdirection and/or conquest to secure it
humans hide things to maintain status quo... religion or empire or family or position
the reason why you hide a thing can change over time. you might start out hiding a treasure but that evolves into maintaining status quo which is then carried on by humans who don’t know what they are doing
can one man hide something such as Atlantis? it would be very difficult today but in the not too distant past any number of people have had the wealth, power and opportunity... what their reason might be or if they really knew they were doing who knows.
Considering we have ice cores from 750,000 years ago I think your point of argument has, in fact, melted.