reply to post by Hanslune
Easy, wherever there are no graves
There are some ancient civilizations, before Bronze age, which had sophisticated art and even alphabet, and did not have state. But then something
happened and people started to build walls...
From then on history is only about that.
Spiritual civilizations are created by people who find ways not to be enslaved and who don't participate in existing economic and political
There are many individuals who are like this, but we can't classify them as "groups" because their connection and "form" is personal.
Spiritual communion is personal and it is not part of public culture or tradition. They are practically invisible in society since they have no social
You can only detect such civilization if you participate in it, and making compromises is very difficult.
I can find some examples, maybe Christian horizontal civilization, that is, before Saul organized them into church with vertical hierarchy and which
since then became visible in history.
Perhaps some of druid communions could be counted as such, but there are no material artifacts. Their literacy was verbal and they devised mnemonic
techniques, which don't leave archeological traces.
It may be possible to unveil such traditions from art or myths, but one should try not to apply some stereotypical ways of interpretation.
It is commonly assumed that rituals are part of some religion or cult, but what do we know of rituals if we never participated in them.
Rituals are a form of meditation and without such experience we will only be able to register what is apparent to eye and hardly the spiritual
experience which is attained.
Take a look at tradition of Australian Aborigines. What do we really know of that? It is all secret because it involves personal experience and cannot
be analyzed by empirical and formal means.
Aboriginal tradition goes god knows how many millenniums in the past, and if we are looking for some historical events, like wars or kings we may find
none, so we conclude they don't have history, which is practically like they never really existed.
For spiritual tradition death is never considered as a no option. They found a way to negotiate and assimilate the experience of death. Let me remind
you that fear and misunderstanding of death is the basic premise of slavery on which historical societies are based.
I think it is more than worth exploring, especially because we all seem to be stuck when asking question: what to do, how to oppose the violence of