Do you hate Christians and why?, page 2

reply to post by dunwichwitch

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Wanted to amend my previous statement....

Maybe the point of the riddles is for all of this to happen in search of the answer. Think about once all of the fighting between religions and sects of religions and non believers of religions is over and people finally start coming to an agreement on who we are and why....

Think of what we could do then. THEN, there will be true progress and freedom.

There may be disagrement, but I get the feeling that once the big mysteries of now are better agreed upon, we can overlook stuff like who has more than who, who looks better, who's more fit, or who's idea is more feasible or petty stuff like that....

It's very simple... but it's a cycle.

I'm going to go not think about religion or mysticism for a while.

reply to post by angel of lightangelo

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I am a Christian, so I don't know if this disqualifies me to respond, but I will regardless. I'm a Christian, and I love other Christians, not to mention many other people as well. I know, it sounds cliche, but I believe it's how it's supposed to be. It doesn't matter what you believe or how, it is our job to love everyone and show them peace and joy. I don't really know how to write this without sounding superficial/cliche or just plain insane, but it's true. I've said it many times here and I'll say it again: The image of Christianity is skewed. People, namely Christians that are supposed to represent our God to the rest of the world, seem to of forgotten what its truly about, and this is exactly where we get the mentality to create this thread.

I'm not here to bash the thread, not at all, as I see civil conversation in a thread such as this an important key to both sides understanding each other better, and that is why I am here. Jesus came to show us love and love alone. Sure, you can deny Jesus' exsistance, but it's what I believe, so I act upon it. We are taught that we are all created in God's image, and it makes us all equal, and that love is for all, whether you believe or not. However, the redemption that can be found only in Christ Jesus' death is something a lot of "non-Christians' if you will, can't wrap their heads around.

I'm sorry that the average "Christian" seems to piss people off, and I hope we can change that. Honesty, humbleness, giving and love are the main points of our relationship with God. The want to obey God's rules will come the more you love him. That's what people don't get. They think God will love them if they obey, but obeying requires so much that people don't want to give up. People need tor realize that they are loved, and from there act accordingly.

I hope this clarified something.
Peace.

Originally posted by For(Home)Country
reply to post by angel of lightangelo

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I am a Christian, so I don't know if this disqualifies me to respond, but I will regardless. I'm a Christian, and I love other Christians, not to mention many other people as well.

Thanks for taking the time to say that. Trust me, I do not judge everyone so broadly. I do have a habit of generalizing the jerks that steal the spotlight unchallenged for so long. I know there are good and bad in all religions but Christians (not you apparently) are the only ones that have ever lobbied to decide what me and my lover do. They are the only ones that have tried to turn this country into a Christian nation. Everyone else seems happy to just be here. I liked your post though.

reply to post by angel of lightangelo

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Well thankyou. See, here is the thing. We are taught that God loves us, not our sin. It's simple, really, because if it weren't for that, we'd be nothing. When it comes to country, this is where I must truthfully say that maybe we may clash a little. I believe that Christian principles of love and unity are one that can hold a country together. Maybe I'm blind, but I see western countries being extremely prosperous when founded on a more "stable" if you will religion, as compared to eastern nations that are engulfed in civil war. HOWEVER, I must be careful as I say this because this statement could come off as prejudice, racist, and a stupid assumption, so please, if you feel differently, correct me. When it comes down to it, I am against abortion and same sex marriage. However, I know what it is like to develop a relationship that you just can't see yourself without, so in saying that, i don't believe Gay's need to be discriminated on, but maybe an alternative to marrige for them would be my ideal solution. Please, don't be offended though, if you do fit into the category I'm talking about.

I don't want to put down fellow Christians because I am in no place to judge, but I try to act according to what I am taught. I am taught in church, straight of the Bible, mainly new testament. It is all about God's love, and what we can do for him and others. It's the belief and faith in Jesus Christ as the only possible sacrifice for our sinful nature that could get us to heaven, but it's not just about a free ticket to heaven. It's about giving your life spiritual meaning and spiritual fulfilment. I know what I believe is real, but this isn't my thread to hi-jack.

Originally posted by For(Home)Country
reply to post by angel of lightangelo

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Well thankyou. See, here is the thing. We are taught that God loves us, not our sin. It's simple, really, because if it weren't for that, we'd be nothing. When it comes to country, this is where I must truthfully say that maybe we may clash a little. I believe that Christian principles of love and unity are one that can hold a country together. Maybe I'm blind, but I see western countries being extremely prosperous when founded on a more "stable" if you will religion, as compared to eastern nations that are engulfed in civil war. HOWEVER, I must be careful as I say this because this statement could come off as prejudice, racist, and a stupid assumption, so please, if you feel differently, correct me. When it comes down to it, I am against abortion and same sex marriage. However, I know what it is like to develop a relationship that you just can't see yourself without, so in saying that, i don't believe Gay's need to be discriminated on, but maybe an alternative to marrige for them would be my ideal solution. Please, don't be offended though, if you do fit into the category I'm talking about.

I am not talking about marriage. You are considerate. I am a straight white male. The thing is, if I wanted to have a man in my bed, who should get to stand at pulpit and preach that me and my kind are sinners and bad and must be "fixed" or corrected or, yes even punished - apparently by the holy hand of god as it speaks through ignorant rednecks. If everyone wants to debate the friggin word "marriage" I could care less. That part just seems really stupid to me. To deny someone from being at their soulmate's side as they die because you don't want them using a word is as silly as them insisting a civil union that offered the exact same rights is not acceptable to them.

I don't want to put down fellow Christians because I am in no place to judge, but I try to act according to what I am taught. I am taught in church, straight of the Bible, mainly new testament. It is all about God's love, and what we can do for him and others. It's the belief and faith in Jesus Christ as the only possible sacrifice for our sinful nature that could get us to heaven, but it's not just about a free ticket to heaven. It's about giving your life spiritual meaning and spiritual fulfilment. I know what I believe is real, but this isn't my thread to hi-jack.

I think you have no idea of how rare you are, or how quiet the rest of you are. You get it but you do know as well as I do that there are Christians out there that openly oppose homosexuality no matter who the homosexual is. You know what I am talking about. They exist and the discriminate and try to legislate their morals and keep the world closed to homosexuals. So far, in my lifetime in the United States, Christians are the only ones who ever do that. No, not all of them but it only takes one bigot with a microphone. Christians have lots.

reply to post by Cassidy WolfPaw

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When I used to be a Christian you had to eat a peice of cardboard that was reffered to the Body of Christ.

that must have been horrible for you,

I came from a family of preachers, they were all good people and I never recall them being hateful to anyone, so I have fond memories.

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