Do You Hate Muslims If So Why, page 8

reply to post by pavil

Pavil, i would like to agree with Magic that muslims do integrate but given the right opportunities.

I am what one would classify as a second generation immigrant. I have integrated and hold my own with the best of them. So does my husband who too is a second generation.

Now my parents are from a muslim background but being first generations, they had little apart from the clothes on their back and two pots they stuffed in haste into the suitcase. they tried to integrate but 'the system' stopped them from doing so. Eventually after six years of trying they finally managed to get low level positions which 'white people' wouldn't do and worked their way up. But they are part of the society and pay their taxes and have done everything to improve their english and consider this their home.

Now the second example is of my in-laws. They are non-muslims and are Asian following the Buddhist ideology. From the comments i am reading on this thread, i would have gathered that people like them would fit right in and have no problems integrating. The oopposite is true. They too took lowly jobs that normal integrated people don't do. They regressed into their own culture and after being here for 25 years, they still don't speak english. They have set up a business serving mainly the asian community and are waiting to save up enough money so they can go back to the country of their origin.

Men in both households hold several qualifications and have held national level positions in their original countries but have been reducing to scrubbing toilets and driving buses because obstacles to integration are just too high.

Now being second generation and integrated, i am an employer who employs others. I cannot recount the number of times obstacles have been put in my way from employing new immigrants - especially muslim ones. These obstacles have consisted of:

* i am sorry but this potential employee does not have enough paperwork and in order to obtain it, they have to go to court and pay solicitors (these people don't have the money to begin with)

* when i have trialled immigrants in my office, i get complaints from clients who question our business practices. However a UK accent is well appreciated.

* if we have more than one 'class' of people (immigrants with heavy accents, or a particular religion) then we get accused on discrimination towards everybody else. It's come to a point where my indian clients tell me off the record that they don't want anyone with an indian or muslim sounding name - just in case their higher ups think that they are showing favoritism. As a result i just delete resumes from all brown and arab people. And the sad part is that i am brown with both an arab and south asian heritage.

In recruitment here in australia, we recruiters joke amongst our colleagues how a client requests a WASP. A Wasp is what ALL recruiters strive to find and collect a fee. A Wasp stands for:
W - White
A - Anglo
S - Saxon
P - Protestant

... otherwise known as a 'blond haired blue eyed' perfect candidate. what ends up is that these new immigrants get so desperate that they regress back into people of similiar backgrounds because they know that when they run out of money and don't have a roof over their head, someone will extend a kind gesture and let them live in their garage or give them two cents to go buy bread.

so i implore everyone to please stop taking main stream media as your main source of information and really look at what is fuelling this non-integration and also why are we so afraid of muslims? when in reality 99% of them are our neighbours who are anti-terrorism themselves.

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