Originally posted by karl 12

Originally posted by westcoastbuckeye
..and the unhinged,bigoted,sociopathic attitude of 'conversions by the sword for unclean non beleivers' does not seem to be diminishing-although I do realise some extremist christians would gladly adopt this homicidal attitude as well.

Welcome to haLF the USA...

The attitude is here. fortunately it is not acted out. Although the fires are being fanned...

I don't like muslims in Australia that try to "MUSLIMIFY" us.

And build their schools, their places of worship and call us dogs, infidels etc.

Absolutely no respect for those ones.

[edit on 20-12-2008 by angel of lightangelo]

This is my first post on ATS.

I am baptised a christian, but consider myself a skeptic.

I work in the middle east. In the past 8 years i have worked in the middle east, i have worked in two countries - Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates (I have been working in UAE since 2005).

KSA or Saudi is one of the most oppressive countries religionwise. it was so suffocating to work there.
While, UAE has liberal views on religion and all religions are allowed in there, except they do not agree on conversion of a native.
UAE doesnt force islam on the non muslim expatriates.
Where as, in Saudi they force it on the expatriates. The religious police in saudi made it real hard for us. we were forced to go for islam classes and like.

coming to the point,
I have met mulsims who are fanatics. i have kept my distance from them. when they saw that i am not getting touched by whatever they say, and attempts at getting me interested in ilsam, they left it.
I have met muslims who are liberal. I have friends, loads of them who are muslims and they got loads of common sense. I respect ther religion, they
respect mine.

I dont hate muslims at all.
I hate those radicals who corrupt the minds of the common muslim.
Islam is a very ambivalent religion. One part they teach forgiveness and emapthy. In another part they teach "an eye for an eye".

Since i dont subscribe to any religion, and dont ahte any religion, i am happy as i am.

They continually moan about things that don't concern them and have absolutely no intention of integrating anywhere, they don't even follow their religion and instead go off and belittle women.

If you live around them you too will grow to hate them.

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Ohh yeah, they stink and they say dogs are dirty animals? You should see their houses in Blackburn, they are so disgusting that the council has had to take the action of cleaning them up for them even though they aren't anything to do with the council.

Disgusting.

[edit on 20/12/2008 by spitefulgod]

Originally posted by spitefulgod
If you live around them you too will grow to hate them.

LOL....I can relate to that. Not regarding Muslims, but well.

Actually in the U.S. the only Muslims I have known were from the Middle East (Iran, Afghanistan, etc...) and they all seem to integrate very well. They typically strike me as similiar to old world Europeans, very very hospitable and polite. We do have some African Muslim subcutlures (most Somalians) but I don't engage with them, and don't have to deal with them.

But I also fully realize that in other countries different ethnic groups CAN cause problems.

I wouldn't go so far as to say I hate them...
But I do admit I find all Muslims Jews and Christians very capable and willing to commit to and carryout terrorist attacks against innocent people.

What I find odd is these three groups all believe in the same god yet are so very willing to kill each other over something as silly as the method of worship...

Frankly I'm Damn glad to be a Red Skin... with that said, why don't religious fruit cakes finally free Leonard Peltier

Thank you all for the posts made thus far, there have been a number of good points made and quite a few silly ones but I would catergorise them as follows.

The media has a massive impact on peoples thought processes and therefore opinions. Secondly personal experience comes in to play as well, this can be in either a positive or negative form.

Some people think that all 1 billion followers of the Muslim faith are terrorists or potential terrorists. Some people cannot see that whlist some Muslim fanatics wage war on us we wage war on them and actually kill more of them than they us.

In the following scenario what would Americana think/do/act.

A number of terrorist attacks take place across the USA, thousands of people are killed and injured. Its is found that Muslim sleeper cells have have been living amongst the greater Muslim community. The Muslim community on the whole were unaware of the terrorists amongst them and are feardul of reprisals against them.

Given such a scenario what would be the response from the media and the people.

Originally posted by Unit541
I detest fanatics of any faith. Personally, I'm more bothered by Christian fanaticism than Muslims. Muslims don't show up on my door step ever Saturday and tell me I'm going to burn for eternity in a lake of fire because I won't let them in to "save" me.

I have several Muslim friends, all of which are respectful of my beliefs and non-beliefs. Generally speaking, I find most non-Christian faiths to be more tolerant of views that differ from their own.

I'm sorry, but are you kidding me?? Because some "radical" Christians and/or Mormons come to your door and supposedly say some inappropriate things that do NOT represent the views of the majority of Christians, you think that Christian fanaticism is worse than Muslim fanaticism??

You've got to be kidding me! Radical Muslims are strapping themselves with explosives and walking into crowded marketplaces where innocent men, women and children (most or all Muslim themselves) and blowing themselves up. But someone coming to your door and handing you a pamphlet bothers you more?

Last I checked, there weren't any Christians going around and cutting non-believers heads off. And last I checked, I have yet to see any rallies where thousands of Muslims take to the streets to reject Islamic extremism. Clearly, the majority of Muslims are not terrorists and do not pose radical views. But at the same time, they do little-to-nothing to publicly condemn it.

You cannot sit there and honestly say that the majority of Christians are like those that you say come to your door and say such horrible things about you burning in hell. I am a Christian, and I don't know a single person who attends my church or any other church who thinks that way.

It's sad that such a good website and message board like ATS are so prevalent with biased views like yours. Reading your post makes me want to violate ToS and really give you a piece of my mind. But I recognize the fact that you know not what you say and that you have clearly been brainwashed by the anti-Christian media in this country. I could really care less what religion you or anyone else is, and I can say the same for most Christians. So please spare us the anti-Christian ignorance because you are making yourself look much worse than the people you are bashing.