I certainly looks to me, the way geese are grouped, then de-group, then re-group.

I wonder what geese flying at very high altitude in pitch black would look like on IR camera.


As a side note, for the guy who asked if it were NV or infra-red, for all intents and purposes, they are synonymous.


AB1


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IMO These are ebe/tech military craft, I believe these are the craft that are manned by the 'non terrestrial officers' names of which Gary Mckinnon found on the MOD computers.

My explanation will be short and simple, the one with all the objects moving freely but in a semi v shape Is Geese in a flock watch how they serperate due to wind or confusion then slowly reassemble into a V, as for the V shaped faster moving object looks to me like some type of military plane displaying ir markers to identify friendly units.

Those are all Canada geese headed south in V formations

Originally posted by alphabetaone
I certainly looks to me, the way geese are grouped, then de-group, then re-group.

I wonder what geese flying at very high altitude in pitch black would look like on IR camera.


As a side note, for the guy who asked if it were NV or infra-red, for all intents and purposes, they are synonymous.


AB1


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It looks nothing like geese to me.. I rarely see geese flying in a formation of only 5. And, if i do see geese flying, there is always some "sway" and movement in the formation, especially when turning. These stay pretty well locked on formation.

1st, and 3rd videos, really don't do much for me. The object doesn't hold shape, and really appears to be ballons, or lanterns just loosely tied together.

The second video looks solid as the object stays in a perfect V pattern through the entire film.

I'd say the 3rd video was the seconds attempt, the first being the first, and worst ( at makeing an object by tieing lanterns, ballons with flares or lights, what have you. The third video, the V was too large and could not hold shapes, seems as if lines broke , I don't have an explanation as to how or why they broke up.

I don't think they are birds though, I believe all 3 videos are of the same objects. Man made. most likely home-made, imo.

Only till the second video, which I believe was the final attempt, was the correct rigging used to make a nice small V shape. It does appear-to me- to me just coasting on the air current, the way it "yaws" nose down toward the end looks odd. To me , again, it gives the feel that the object is just floating on the wind current.

I'd like to see a sharp directional change, or oneof these objects stop then go the opposite direction. To me, that would then rule out, tethered balloons(w/lights), or lanterns.

Also it would be good to continue filming, because I'd bet if the cameraman did, these objects would get smaller and dimmer, until the slowly dissapear into the upper atmosphere. Or as seen in the 1st video, where there appears to be a strong right to left wind, those objects might dissapear, behind some houses, or trees. Don't know, but videos that just end after 2 minutes, before the object dissapears from view, send up a flag to me.

Again, the short lenght of the videos, and the fact that these objects do not seem to "move" under any intelligent control, they just float, in a continuos path, some slightly changing due to wind, as seen when the large group breaks apart. Just says hoax to me.

Also I would have like the cameraman, to turn off the NV, then back on a few times, confirming they can not be seen with the naked eye. But I guess we have to take his/her word on that?

Sorry, but in my opinion this is weak evidence, and again aside from the whole NV, and "cant be seen with the nake eye",twist, looks exactly like all the other latern, ballon, supposed "orb" videos I've seen.

Again except for the second video, which does hold a nice shape, but again wouldn't be not hard to do with some balsa wood/tape/string ect.

I'll wait, and hope for more conclusive video, perhaps, one stopping quickly, then darting off in the other direction, or something similiar.

But I suppose until it's proven one way or the other, these are Unidentified Flying Objects.

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Why is it that the stars can be seen through these light strings?

If they were meant to be invisible, I dont think that all we would be seeing through the IR specturm would be strings of lights in triangluar shape flying in an airplane like manner, we would be seeing hull, body etc, not just lights.

Besides, if UFO/Aliens want to be invisible, they would make sure their cloak covers a whole lot than just the visible spectrum, they would cloak across all known spectrum that us humans can work with.

Chances are..these are not UFO's, they are the black op Aurora's.

Again tho, just strings of lights in triangular formation?

Dunno this one is in unsolved file.



Cheers!!!!

Originally posted by lw2525

Originally posted by NoInfoAvailable
They don't seem birds at all. Too fast. Could someone tell us where these ufos were filmed and when (incl. season)?

Aren't the dates and locations clearly posted above each video clip???

Hahaha! That's mean. Funny. But still mean. LOL!

Obviously at night or evening cuz of the stars. See my inquery above.
They arent UFO's IMO, but case is in unsolved file for now.

Cheers!!!!

Good videos...but something doesn't seem right with them..dont know what,but something...ill star you anyway.Cheers

Its rediculous that someone would state that the huge formation that break apart is balloons if you watch the smaller groups that break off scatter then come back together adn attempt to form a V its is apparent that the video with large breaking formation is geese not balloons tied together then breaking apart i mean come on. the objects in that video even move at the speed u see geese moving in the distance. as for the other 2 videos way to fast to be balloons and the videos were all takin quite close to one another in time frame and travel in 2 different direction, unless theres some freak change in the weather the wind in an area usually remains in one direction until seaon changes. also someone suggested they could make something similar using lights balloons n balsa wood? ok maybe in theory but 1 balsawood is very weak and traveling that high and at that speed would break apart under wind condition that could push the object that fast and it doesnt RISE its clearly in one direction and isnt going up but over the cameraman since u see him follow it and it goes over his head not up out of his sight range.

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