Making inmates pay for food

Seriously. Pexx? I can understand where you're coming from with having nutritious food and appropriate nutrients and vitamins as opposed to calories. Obviously, (and I'm sure you can vouch for this) the reason the food industry markets processed food is to save money. It's not exactly in the best interest of the consumer but rather the merchant. And the undesirable effects that result from metabolizing said processed food can be countered with medication and treatment. Which brings business for the medical industry. I do agree with your stance on that. Some things have to change.

But when it comes down to prison inmates? I feel that they should work to obtain food whether it be nutritious or not. I have to do the same thing on the outside and I am a law-abiding citizen with no criminal record whatsoever. Health and wellness is a personal responsibility. NOT a right. That's fair treatment.

Some people eat six small meals per day.

But do I eat twice a day? Maybe. Approximately two or three times.

Yeah yeah yeah and some people fast and some people are gluttons but I did not ask an open ended question. I asked a yes or no question.

Do you eat two meals a day? Yes or No? No snacks, no cokes, no anything else. Do you eat two meals a day?

[edit on 26-12-2008 by titorite]

In that case? Yes. What's your point?

reply to post by Marked One

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My point is free man you lie. Your asking me and everyone else to believe you have two meals a day and you don't snack, You don't fill up on soda, you don't have a third meal you only eat two meals a day.

In your first reply it was a maybe followed by an approximation of two to three meals.

Did your eating habits change in the two seconds it took you to reply? I doubt it.

inmates should pay for their food.
pay a deductible for dr visits
pay for clothing

Did your IQ drop sharply while I was away? I'm not answering any more of your trick questions. You're not making any sense. You're just equivocating a filibuster.

Well! We've found the messiah. The one human being on the planet that needs no solace. You must be very proud. Make that very deluded. No wonder you have no empathy for others, you have none for yourself.

reply to post by eyewitness86

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You're probably right about what the law says, but there are many ways that prisons get around them. Tick off the wrong person in the Federal pen, and you'll get 'diesel therapy', where you're constantly shipped from one prison to the next, getting nothing but bologna sandwiches and being denied all communication with the 'free world'. Being locked in solitary is heaven compared to that.

In all seriousness. I understand all of your concerns. I do believe prison inmates can and will be mistreated. And as a result you're only fighting fire with fire. Instead of doing any actually reforming, you're only punishing. There's no comprehension involved. Just sheer punishment. And I do agree. That is wrong. There's a lot of work that needs to be done with the system in America. Not just America but in the rest of the world. As a dominant superpower we have to set an example for the rest of the world. It begins here.

On a separate note. I do not feel there is anything wrong with having inmates pay for their own food. If I have to do so on the outside world and I don't even have so much as a traffic violation on my record. Why not prison inmates inmates do the same? Food, TV, living arrangements, health-care etc. Are NOT a right. They are a personal responsibility. Now to some those particular things may be a right to an individual under a socialist regime. It may work in places like Canada, parts of Europe. But it won't work in America. If you have a good explanation as to why it WOULD work? Then explain away.

But my statements still stand. As to why they are in prison in the first place? That's a different topic all together. Some of the reasons people are in prison I don't agree with. And I don't agree with corrections officer's abusing the inmates. I also don't agree with inmates raping each other. Hurting each other. Stealing from each other. But there's not very much you or I alone can do to prevent it. But if it involves teaching prison inmates how to handle their own responsibilities while in prison in order for them to learn to do the same on the outside world on their own and be productive members of society and staying out of trouble? I am all for it.

As for everything else? The world isn't perfect. It never was. And it never will be. Period.

reply to post by Marked One

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You realize that you're talking about a 'company store' situation right? Wherein prisoners are locked into a debt spiral from which they can never extricate themselves. It's enslavement pure and simple, and those on the inside profit handsomely from it. Notice I used the present tense because it is happening now, just not to the extent you propose.

en.wikipedia.org...

I’m all for inmates doing all the maintenance on the prison they can, but for-profit ventures in prison set up a situation where it’s in the PTB best interest to keep the prisons as full as possible. In my mind this is the only reason the USA has more prisoners than China.

Please keep in mind that there are plenty of innocent people in USA prisons. 19 wrongly convicted people have been proven innocent out of Dallas County alone in the last few years.

www.cnn.com...

ipoftexas.org...

These are people the gov swore up and down could not possibly be innocent. There but for the grace of God go all of us.

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I do agree on this. I also recall instances where people are wrongly executed. There was this one instance where a man was convicted of murdering three police officers. It was actually his own father who was responsible for the murders and simply set everything up so his own son takes the fall for it. They didn't find out about this until after he was executed that his nephew along with other members of the family heard a confession from the man's father, explaining he was the actual murderer and not his son. When the son was executed his last words were something to the effect of "I maintain my innocence. God bless you."

Absolutely. These things do happen.

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Yes. I have heard of this. Yet I still stand by what I say.

On a separate note. It is true. The one nation in the world with the largest prison population is the United States Of America. Former Soviet Union comes in second place. Third place is owned by South Africa.