Originally posted by Marked One
Originally posted by The Bald Champion
For you the point of prison is to treat them like guests at the Dubai Hotel. Believe me nobody is being treated like beef in Arpaio's prison. They
ARE being subject to reform. And trust me it works. You don't believe me? Check it out. Don't take my word for it.
A nation of laws and standards? Tell that to the prison inmates who committed the crime in the first place. I'm sure they'd be eager to listen. And
no; we don't break our own rules to enforce our laws. We seek and pursue our way to justice through loopholes in those rules. If you think that's
breaking rules then that's your problem. Not mine. Even if we ARE breaking the rules it's because those rules were put in place by bleeding-heart
liberals.
And finally? No. It's not out of love for the offenders. It is out of tough love. But you want to talk about loss of humanity, loss of dignity, and
loss of the ability to survive, etc? What about the victims and the families of the victims who suffered at the hands of the individual responsible
for the crime? (A bank teller who had the front-end of a sawed-off double-barreled shotgun aimed point-blank to their face and was demanded money. Or
the family of a 14yr old girl who was raped and strangled.)
Why don't you talk to those people about loss of humanity, loss of dignity, and loss of the ability to survive and live a normal life without the
burden of trauma and having to to pay profusely for the cost of psychological therapy and treatment for said trauma?
Tell them. Rest assured they'd be more than eager to listen.
Look at you first line.... Are you a child??? Do you want to pick a fight?
"A nation of laws and standards? Tell that to the prison inmates who committed the crime in the first place. I'm sure they'd be eager to
listen."
conservative
Tell that to the terists
tell that to the homos
tell thet to de unemployed
Same argument for everything," they did it", P$!$!$ like a five year and a menstruating dog rolled up.
Its a waste of time...
Dude... the point is not loving criminals. The point is we have standards for a reason.
We live in a society, mankind changes and grows. What was expectable 1000 years ago is not expectable now. We are nor barbarians, we are AMERICANS in
the 21st century.
What you my conservative person forget is that we progress. Otherwise we would still be stoning people, burning witches and holding town square
executions. What if we conserved those traditions and did not liberate our views? At some point I am certain
you would find a time past, where the traditions of justice would be to radical for you to conserve.
At this point we have determined that we are a nation of laws and standards. Our method of punishment as determined by LAW, is the lose of ones time
and restriction
of free movement. Once again sentencing is executed by lose of TIME and FREEDOM
OCCASSIONALY death.
NOT the lose of one's humanity.
NOT the lose of one's ability to survive.
So I remind you, it is not out of love for the offenders.
We are a nation of laws and standards - we do not HAVE to break our own rules
to enforce our laws. It is out of love for this idea.
Second the concept of modern punishment is to reform.
Logically how do you expect anyone violent, or not, to reflect reform if they have been
treated like beef for five years?
What is the point of prison for anyone?
If you are going to make monsters out of most why not just execute every criminal regardless of the crime?
I don't want people who have been treated like dogs on the streets.
Do you really think you could squeeze one single "CHANGED MAN" out of a prison without rules or standards??? ONE???
I repeat I don't want broken men MONSTERS with zero esteem coming out, ever.
I don't care if you put a thieving priest in there with APEMAN standards, he ain't coming out a thieving priest. He's coming out ANIMAL....
WHATS the point of laws if they do not apply to the righteous????