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reply posted on 18-12-2008 @ 12:42 PM by Myrtales Instinct
reply to post by Patmcc88


As I was reading through the posts, that's exactly what I was thinking may be going on.

Your physical bodies, including your brain may be tired but your mind may be ready to play. Many people claim, and I can attest to it, that right before a person goes out of body, strange noises occur. From my own expierence it is like metal grinding against metal and it's just way too tight to unwedge. And it can be very loud. I don't know how old any of you are but the older you get, the harder it becomes to go out of body.

And what is up with people assuming it is something bad and encouraging others to open a bible to ward it off? I'm a big time believer in God/Jesus/Spirit and I promise you God is not going to let nothing bad happen to you. No one knows for sure what is going on, so how do we not know that it is God himself working through Spirit trying to get one to wake up and be cognizant of his reality.

Why should anyone shut the door of possibility just because something can't be explained? Let's just wrap up the problem all neat and tidy with a medical explanation and then stamp it with the seal of approval: "Scientifically explained!" No.Lol You need to think bigger.

For those who can, keep an open mind and remember that the greatest things God has done, has been done under the cover of darkness. Don't believe me? Check into it.

I think embracing the possibilities is the better choice. If fear itself is a component, well just remember that fear of God is the beginning of knowledge itself - and the process has to start somewhere, at sometime and for some reason.







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reply posted on 18-12-2008 @ 02:15 PM by robotically
reply to post by arc de triumphe



Thank you, I am really trying to get an idea of how many people this is happening to. The fact that this has become a more recent thing with you and yours is a bit alarming.


reply posted on 18-12-2008 @ 03:04 PM by Komodo
Originally posted by robotically
reply to
post by arc de triumphe



Thank you, I am really trying to get an idea of how many people this is happening to. The fact that this has become a more recent thing with you and yours is a bit alarming.


Ok, i talked to a long time very close friend of mine and told him about this thread. I asked him if he's been having any issues with sleeping. He said, "Interesting you should ask that!?" I ask him to go on.

He said that last week sometime, just before he went to bed, like minutes before shutting off the TV, he noticed something in his peripheral vision. Here's the convo...

FRIEND: "yea, I was sitting there and noticed a 'person like image move across the room in my peripheral vision. It looked very similar to the Predator in the movie "Predator" (the first version) where it is camouflaging itself against the jungle. It was translucent but, I did see it. When I look in the direction, everything was normal.

I told him of the account of my wife who saw a black image out of the corner of her eye and thinking it was me walking from her sewing room to the living room; as well as, the black shadow standing in our bedroom doorway and felt in her spirit it had an malicious intent about 2 months ago. I took authority over it and haven't had an any issues since; however, I'm not going to let my guard down.

I'm currently talking to a Moderator to an open an official thread of ATS members on this exact subject. To me, it seems to be escalating over the last year. It's hard to determine if it was demonic , angelic, gov or 'other'.

U2U me if you need assistance for helping in dealing with this.

Regards...and in my prayers.


reply posted on 18-12-2008 @ 03:07 PM by matsplat
Sounds like everyone has equally valid points & good reasoning and probably we each have our own take on experiences.

So what do we do?
First off, decide is it an internal thing. You have a pet which isn't really behaving much different, but you yourself might be thinking so now.

Booze can help sleep until the early hours, but it can start affecting the body in adverse ways-dehydration, many will wake earlier than if they slept naturally & healthily.
Exercise is important if you know you need it - can be really hard (esp in winter) but just motivate yourself to do it. You feel better for it, most will agree with that.
Valarium, passiflora, and possibly St.Johns Wort I would consider before 'over the counter' sleep aids (this after exercise). They are essentially non addictive, and have natural chemical formulae.
Meditation isn't a must but it can be amazingly useful.

If we are dealling with something external - I certainly do believe that this is possible. I would guess that it would be extremely rare for an entity/soul to be harmful and probably very,very,very rare for evil.
As I said animals (and children) are usually open and sensitive to the ether compared to most grown ups (roughly age 10 and up with people). I had no end of nightmares, night terrors etc as a kid whilst the rest of the house slept sound. We all go through that kind of thing. Doesn't hurt to ask for assistance from guides etc, and to spring clean the atmosphere with a smudgestick.
Also the Jolts when waking suddenly, yep thats that we do from time to time. When we climb back in the 'vehicle' sometimes we do so in a less smooth way.
Sometimes when we are ill, we need sleep physically and mentally, and waking suddenly can be very draining. The whole resting thing, for me anyway, goes out the window. I'm either awake and struggling through the day conserving my energy - or I'm asleep, 10-12 hours if poss. it makes no odds to me, if I need it I will sleep. When I'm fit, I have times where physically OR mentally I can't reallt shut off, this is when the meditation/exercise balance can be tweaked.
Our energies do change from time to time.



reply posted on 18-12-2008 @ 06:51 PM by robotically
reply to post by sciencenewby



Come on man, nobody said float, I said one side of me like somebody was trying to push me over. Something just occurred to me, this bed was owned by an old lady my mother took care of and she died, not on it tho. It is a really really expensive bedroom set. Hmmm.


reply posted on 18-12-2008 @ 07:05 PM by robotically
reply to post by Komodo



Thank you, I appreciate it. This is starting to really interest me now. Time to do a bit more research.


reply posted on 18-12-2008 @ 11:02 PM by strokker
reply to post by robotically



Congratulations on your first mind out of body experience!!!! Now if you can just relax when it happens and re-enter slowly and naturally the "shock" you felt will not be so strong ....more like a static electrical poke...Have fun "out there" DIRT


reply posted on 18-12-2008 @ 11:56 PM by sakuran
Sleep deprivation can lead to such charming physiolocical effects like derealization,psychosis-like symtoms including paranoia, and hallucinations.Sinse I`m a life-long insomniac,I can proudly say that I experience derealization at a regular basis(the best description would be the state of "knurd",as Therry Pratchett put it . But in February I had the bad luck of experiencing hallucinations.At that time I was a patient at a sleep research center,and because of several month of extreme stress I hadn`t slept more than 4 hours in the previous 72 hours.Anyway,those nice people there decided that I should spend 2 nights in a sleep laboratory, where they could monitor your brainwaves and such through sensors fixed with straps and special glue.while I was laying there in the dark waiting to fall asleep,suddenly I heard loud music and the voices of two male teenagers coming from behind the wall.Since it was around half past twelve at night,I called for the supervising nurse and asked her to take care of the matter.Unfortunatly,there was no room behind that wall! At least,that was what she told me and of course I didn`t believe her,hearing those voices and that horrible music loud and clear.I then spend another two miserable hours trying to fall asleep while those two boys played the same stupid song again and again and again.Finally,I ended the whole thing for that night and went back to my hospital room.The first thing I heard after I had turned of the light was the Rammstein-like music coming from the room below!Of course,the night nurse wasn`t able to hear that music.That was the moment I realised that I was hallucinating.Well,in the end I made the best of the situation and started to write the song lyrics down.After an hour, I had about four pages of lyrics and then the music suddenly stopped.But these sounds were as real to me as the conversations I had that night,I can still remember the melody of that song coming from the wall.Actually,it was a very interesting experiment,but despite my best efforts,I`ve been unable to repeat it.Staying awake for 72 hours is a lot harder then you would think.


reply posted on 19-12-2008 @ 07:31 AM by Amaxium
Originally posted by robotically
Hello all, 3am here, havin trouble sleeping. No news there. So anybody want to talk ? lol


Alright, I'm going to go off the deep end and make a few suggestion you may or may not have tried yet. Main point is you need to get at least a "decent" nights sleep. Dunno how long it has been since you had sleep.

List of things to try (and it could take a combination of em):

Turn off all electricity in your house / apartment before you go to bed. (via circuit breaker)

This is what I use when I feel a cold coming on and it takes care of the flu. It knocks me out so it may help with getting that extra hour or two of sleep. Get a glass shot glass and fill it with Tequila. Place that on a small saucer plate. Only in the saucer plate, pour a small amount of 150 proof or higher alcohol (you will not be drinking this only burning it) just enough to put a small layer evenly across saucer plate. Cut 1 lime and 1 lemon wedge. Squeeze out some juice from both wedges into the tequila then place the wedges themselves in the shot glass (you may need a bigger shot glass for this). ****Get a fire extinguisher just in case this next part goes bad.***** light the 150 proof or higher alcohol in the saucer plate and let it burn out completely. This heats up the tequila / lemon / lime mix and changes chemically. Drink the tequila / lemon / lime shot. It will be warm and will probably hit you faster than it normally would. This alone knocks me out for the count.

Take a
Hot Toddy before going to bed.

Try re-positioning your bed. Depending on where you face (ie North, South, East, West) this will change how your body interacts with the earth's magnetic field. Hopefully you can change the direction your bed faces positioning your body in a different direction.

I do not know how old you are. This next suggestion is rated R. MODS, if this be inappropriate then delete this suggestion. Stimulate yourself

You have to change your mental attitude and thinking regarding your current sleep habit. Go to bed knowing without a shadow of a doubt that you will get the best night's sleep you have ever had. The power of the mind is larger than any of us realize.

Just a few "next level" suggestions before you go see a doctor and they stuff you full of sleeping pills which kill your body faster than the temporary low intake alcohol would.



reply posted on 19-12-2008 @ 09:54 AM by michael
reply to post by robotically



Everyone I know is having trouble sleeping. Seriously. Of course, there is a LOT to worry about these days.
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