A Giant Breach in Earth's Magnetic Field, page 3
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reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 09:17 PM by Phage
reply to post by zorgon


They didn't.
kook
The earthquakes have been discussed here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

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reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 09:24 PM by basilray
reply to post by zorgon

WOW THANKS FOR THE INFO ZORGON



reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 10:12 PM by WatchNLearn
reply to post by MoonMine


My thoughts exactly! It STINKS of HAARP.

Without a magnetic field most of Earth will die. People will not even be able to walk outside for fear of being burnt to death by radiation or cosmic rays, x-rays, gamma rays etc. Not to mention we will loose our atmosphere.

Indeed, Earth will become Mar's twin. I hope the guys at HAARP thought it was all worth while!


reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 10:39 PM by squiz
Originally posted by Phage
The magnetosphere is not the only protection from the solar wind. Venus has no planetary magnetosphere and has a dense atmosphere. In lieu of a planetary magnetic field, an induced magnetic field forms, produced by interactions between the solar wind and the ionosphere. It would take a very long time with no planetary magnetosphere for our atmosphere to be stripped away if it happened at all.


The comparison to Venus may not be valid, I believe Velikovsky was correct in that Venus is a young planet and is still finding electrical equilibrium. The runaway greenhouse effect is a myth.

Planets with a weak or non-existent magnetosphere are subject to atmospheric stripping by the solar wind.
Venus, the nearest planet to Earth, has an atmosphere 100 times denser than our own. Modern space probes have discovered a comet-like tail that stretches back to the orbit of the Earth.[28]


Hmm... a cometary tail?

Mars is larger than Mercury and four times farther from the sun, and yet even here it is thought that the solar wind has stripped away up to a third of its original atmosphere, leaving a layer 100 times less dense than the Earth's. It is believed the mechanism for this atmospheric stripping is gas being caught in bubbles of magnetic field, which are ripped off by solar winds.

en.wikipedia.org...

Ewww, I used wikipedia as reference.

It probably would take a long to to strip the atmosphere, but it does happen, it's happening on Mars and Venus as mentioned above.

Solar Wind Rips up Martian Atmosphere
Obseving the atmospheres of Venus and Mars leaking into space

I'm talking about both UV radiation and high energy particles (both cosmic rays and the high energy particles from the sun). The magnetosphere does intercept some of these but even if it didn't, the atmosphere still would. The atmosphere can deal with high energy particles better than the magnetosphere can. Of course, in case of a gamma ray burst or some other truly awesome event, neither our magnetosphere nor our atmosphere would help. But for the ordinary, everyday stuff, the atmosphere works fine.


Thanks for the clarification, however I'd have to disagree with the Venus comparison. It may have a thick atmosphere but it is still being stripped.
It's just a baby is all.

I agree that the atmosphere does serve some protection, but it kind of sounds like your saying that our atmosphere would be fine without the magnetosphere. As I said before no magnetosphere no atmosphere, (eventually).

I'd also like to mention that this discovery changes conventional views of the interactions with magnetospheres and the solar wind. Even my comment regarding the polarity of the IMF seems to be no longer valid. So all bets are off.


reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 11:06 PM by soma_pills
Originally posted by zorgon
Originally posted by soma_pills
On the Yahoo front page right now link


only posted by AP 2 hrs 27 mins ago

Hehe ATS beats AP out the door



It's funny because the first thing I did when I saw it on Yahoo was come to ATS...and there was your post already on the front page! Way to beat the MSM.


reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 11:12 PM by Phage
reply to post by zorgon


I would never call you a kook, Zorgon.
I was referring to the kook who wrote the "article".


reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 11:15 PM by Springheel Jack
reply to post by WatchNLearn


Hey Watch, just doesnt suprise me. I read about this somewhere....hmmmm...oh yes...

Revelation 16:8-9 (New International Version)

8The fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and the sun was given power to scorch people with fire.
9They were seared by the intense heat and they cursed the name of God, who had control over these plagues, but they refused to repent and glorify him.

Now let the flames BEGIN!

Lol, but it is curious that a guy 2000 years ago predicted this.


reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 11:17 PM by Phage
reply to post by Springheel Jack


Predicted what? A geomagnetic storm might result in some problems with your ipod but you won't feel a thing.

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reply posted on 17-12-2008 @ 12:25 AM by zorgon
Originally posted by Phage
I would never call you a kook, Zorgon.
I was referring to the kook who wrote the "article".


Okay

HEY here is something WEIRD to toss into the ring...

The DAY BEFORE this hole appears.. they reported this

Seems the Universe is tossing more surprises at NASA scientists

Solar Flare Surprise



Above: The X9-class solar flare of Dec. 5, 2006, observed by the Solar X-Ray Imager aboard NOAA's GOES-13 satellite.

Big Picture


Dec. 15, 2008: Solar flares are the most powerful explosions in the solar system. Packing a punch equal to a hundred million hydrogen bombs, they obliterate everything in their immediate vicinity. Not a single atom should remain intact.

At least that's how it's supposed to work.

"We've detected a stream of perfectly intact hydrogen atoms shooting out of an X-class solar flare," says Richard Mewaldt of Caltech. "What a surprise! These atoms could be telling us something new about what happens inside flares."


science.nasa.gov...


The event occurred on Dec. 5, 2006. A large sunspot rounded the sun's eastern limb and with little warning it exploded. On the "Richter scale" of flares, which ranks X1 as a big event, the blast registered X9, making it one of the strongest flares of the past 30 years.

NASA managers braced themselves. Such a ferocious blast usually produces a blizzard of high-energy particles dangerous to both satellites and astronauts. Indeed, moments after the explosion, radio emissions from a shock wave in the sun's atmosphere signaled that a swarm of particles was on its way.

An hour later they arrived. But they were not the particles researchers expected.




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