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Microsoft wants to get under your skin




Topic started on 16-12-2008 @ 05:21 PM by Grock


Microsoft's HealthVault, the medical records database, is to be integrated with VeriMed's human-embedded RFID tags, allowing doctors to access the medical records of unconscious patients with a quick scan of the arm.

VeriMed consists of an RFID tag that is embedded in the arm of a hopefully willing participant, and responds with a 16-digital identity code when queried at 134KHz. This code can then be used to identify the person through VeriChip's website, and will soon be able to link to their medical records as stored on Microsoft's HealthVault system.

"VeriMed adds an exciting RFID-based option for HealthVault users trying to keep themselves and their families safe," says Sean Nolan, the chief architect for HealthVault, quoted in RFID Journal. If you're excited about the idea of being electronically indexed then this is probably the technology for you.

www.theregister.co.uk...

Seems that we are now one step closer to The Beast...



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reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 06:10 PM by infolurker


One of the reasons I am against Government healthcare.... once you have no choice, how hard is it to say this type of thing is "mandatory".



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reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 06:18 PM by Jkd Up


Ahhh... I see. RFID chips for safety and security post- 9/11 didn't work now it's to help with medical records... Very interesting.... They just keep remolding the same pitch till the populace swallows it don't they?



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reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 06:23 PM by guliver


Like everything else that comes from MS, you can be modified...........



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reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 06:31 PM by Blaine91555


My Wife adopted two cats from a shelter that required chips which they put in the cats neck. One developed cancer at the exact location of one of the chips and had to be put down. He started drooling blood and suffered greatly.

I contacted the shelter which is run by the Humane Society about the safety of the chips and they refused to respond. They still require them. The Vet won't even talk about it.

At the time this happened, about 13 months ago, I found articles saying that the fact these cause cancer was hidden by the company that manufactures them.

After seeing this, I'm going to get aggressive with the Humane Society to get them to tell me how many animals are developing cancer at the site of the chip. I imagine they will refuse again but if these are going into humans, their knowledge could save lives.

The cancer was described to me as being 100% fatal and very rare but the Vet did not want to talk about whether the chip caused it. He was so freaked by it that he paid for extensive lab tests out of his own pocket. Since when does a Veterinarian spend hundreds on tests out of their pocket without the customer asking for it? I think I know why?

If anyone reading this is involved with the Humane Society could you see if they have data on this. When they start putting these in humans, anyone who knows the danger and does not speak up will be partly to blame for any death and suffering.



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reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 06:36 PM by logician magician


Originally posted by Blaine91555
Since when does a Veterinarian spend hundreds on tests out of their pocket without the customer asking for it? I think I know why?



Why? Because he's concerned or because he's a reptilian?

I think I know why?



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reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 07:12 PM by Blaine91555


Mice Studies Show RFID Chips Cause Cancer.

RFID tags have been shown in several studies to induce malignant tumors when they're implanted in mice, the Associated Press reported this weekend...

...VeriChip tells the AP that it wasn't aware of the mice studies, and the FDA declined to detail which studies it reviewed...

...There's one more wrinkle in this story. At the time that VeriChip was looking for FDA approval of its device, the head of the Department of Health and Human Services was former Wisconsin Gov. -- and just-failed Republican presidential candidate -- Tommy Thompson. Shortly after Thompson left HHS, he joined VeriChip's board and he became so forceful an advocate of human chip implantation that he promised to get chipped himself.


Chip Implants Linked to Animal Tumors.

A series of veterinary and toxicology studies, dating to the mid-1990s, stated that chip implants had "induced" malignant tumors in some lab mice and rats.

"The transponders were the cause of the tumors," said Keith Johnson, a retired toxicologic pathologist, explaining in a phone interview the findings of a 1996 study he led at the Dow Chemical Co. in Midland, Mich.

Leading cancer specialists reviewed the research for The Associated Press and, while cautioning that animal test results do not necessarily apply to humans, said the findings troubled them. Some said they would not allow family members to receive implants, and all urged further research before the glass-encased transponders are widely implanted in people.


Our cat developed a malignant tumor at the exact site of the implanted chip.

Lab testing that was ignored verified this.

The top dog who made the approval of their use in Humans is now employed by the company who manufactures them.

Need I say more?



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reply posted on 17-12-2008 @ 12:08 AM by Grock


Good point. What are the health concerns involved in this? have they been studied? can they make something unhealthy mandatory?

Brings up alot of interesting questions...



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reply posted on 17-12-2008 @ 12:21 AM by munkey66


Originally posted by Grock
Good point. What are the health concerns involved in this? have they been studied? can they make something unhealthy mandatory?

Brings up alot of interesting questions...

They put flouride in the water don't they?
They allow GM foods on the shelves, so can they make something unhealthy mandatory?, I would have to say "yes"



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reply posted on 17-12-2008 @ 12:37 AM by jaden_x


www.foxnews.com...

wouldn't it be much easier to just:

use a device such as on the link above.
scan what's already in us.
convert that to a unique hash or id#.
link that to the required data.
save it to a database.
?

next time they want to know anything, just scan your hand.

we already have sim cards, credit cards, id cards, cell phones, etc, which we carry with us at all times and can be linked to information about us at any time or can even be used to track us from a remote location and we're already ok with that.

why do they always want to stick something in us? damn!



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reply posted on 17-12-2008 @ 04:12 AM by Grock


Originally posted by munkey66
Originally posted by Grock
Good point. What are the health concerns involved in this? have they been studied? can they make something unhealthy mandatory?

Brings up alot of interesting questions...

They put flouride in the water don't they?
They allow GM foods on the shelves, so can they make something unhealthy mandatory?, I would have to say "yes"


which also brings up msg and aspertame...

if we dont do something about this, it WILL continue...



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reply posted on 17-12-2008 @ 09:55 AM by CeltAngel


Obligatory Microsoft jokes aside, this is the part that has me worried:


VeriMed consists of an RFID tag that is embedded in the arm of a hopefully willing participant



Does anyone see shades of the "vaccination at gunpoint" debacle, but on a much grander scale?



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reply posted on 17-12-2008 @ 04:30 PM by Grock


reply to post by CeltAngel



Thats exactly what im saying. And whats with the "hopefully willing"? Thats just plain scary...



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reply posted on 18-12-2008 @ 08:42 AM by CeltAngel


I can just see it. Somewhere someone will install a copy of MS Office or some other MS app. Little do they know that buried in the EULA will be a line that gives MS permission to chip them come heck or high water.

Actually that type of duplicity wouldn't surprise me in the least.



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reply posted on 26-12-2008 @ 01:34 AM by Grock


another good point.

what if a virus or "central command protocal" were in place?



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reply posted on 26-12-2008 @ 02:24 AM by prevenge


Originally posted by jaden_x
www.foxnews.com...

wouldn't it be much easier to just:

use a device such as on the link above.




I bet someone will make latex glove copies of other people's handprints and scam.

also.. how do you pay the hospital after you had to get an emergency dual hand amputation?

huuh huhhh??

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[edit on 26-12-2008 by prevenge]



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reply posted on 14-1-2009 @ 11:44 AM by Grock


I wonder if they could even get away with this. Are our laws so lax right now that this could happen (BE happening) currently, without our knowledge? And what about the legalities of the information gleaned and involved?



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