Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by Jadette
Occultism doesn't = Satanism.

True. And that's part of the discussion. The urban legend - or not urban legend - is that Led Zepplin was into devil worship and that it was pushed through their music.

The fact that they were into the occult is well established.

Now we are trying to figure out - debunk or verify - the urban legend about the devil worship. To do that we have to see how devoted they were to Crowley and what exactly Crowley believed. And we have to see if there are channels other then Crowley that they followed.

We have come up with quotes from Crowley stating that he wanted to be the devils 'Chief of Staff'. That's not worship but that's definately working for, and doing the bididng of, the devil.

We have come up with Page being a devotee of Crowley but also Page saying that he was into Magick and not devil worship. So I don't know if Page fully understood Crowleys 'religion' or motivation.

I'm sure that part of this was a marketing ploy by the band to sell more albums to the rebellious youth of the 1970s. But it went further then just that for Page. Definately much further.

The erroneous popular idea of equating Aleister Crowley with Satanism is based, partially, on his own tendency to hyperbole and rebellion against (most) expressions of bourgeois morality--and the satanic myth is also perpetuated by Establishment apologists who simply can not tolerate the basic insistence on INDIVIDUAL SPIRITUAL FREEDOM proclaimed in Crowley's vision of Scientific Illuminism....

The devil does not exist. It is a false name invented by the Black Brothers to imply a Unity in their ignorant muddle of dispersions. A devil who had unity would be a God. ["The Devil" is, historically, the God of any people that one personally dislikes....]

ALEISTER CROWLEY
Liber ABA (Book 4): Magick; Part III: Magick in Theory & Practice; Cap. XXI: Of Black Magick; of Pacts with the Devil; of the Main Types of the Operations of Magick Art; of Necromancy; and of the Powers of the Sphinx

This "Devil" is called Satan or Shaitan, and regarded with horror by people who are ignorant of his formula, and, imagining themselves to be evil, accuse Nature herself of their own phantasmal crime. Satan is Saturn, Set, Abrasax, Adad, Adonis, Attis, Adam, Adonai, etc. The most serious charge against him is only that he is the Sun in the South. The Ancient Initiates, dwelling as they did in lands whose blood was the water of the Nile or the Euphrates, connected the South with life-withering heat, and cursed that quarter where the solar darts were deadliest. Even in the legend of Hiram, it is at high noon that he is stricken down and slain. Capricornus is moreover the sign which the Sun enters when he reaches his extreme Southern declination at the Winter Solstice, the season of the death of vegetation, for the folk of the Northern hemisphere. This gave them a second cause for cursing the south.... But to us, aware of astronomical facts, this antagonism to the South is a silly superstition which the accidents of their local conditions suggested to our animistic ancestors.

ALEISTER CROWLEY
Liber ABA (Book 4): Magick; Part III: Magick in Theory & Practice; Cap. V: The Formula of I.A.O.

The men who are willing... to become the saviours of their country shall be called the Synagogue of Satan, so as to keep themselves from the friendship of the fools who mistake names for things.

ALEISTER CROWLEY
Thien Tao or the Synagogue of Satan, Sub Figura XLI

In 1971 the house was bought by Jimmy Page of the band Led Zeppelin. Page was obsessed with Crowley and the house once again became home to reputed black masses and rituals. In the 1990’s the house was purchased by the MacGillivrays who remained there until shortly after Ronald MacGillivray’s death in 2002. The house is currently in private ownership and their privacy should be respected. Below the house, and just over the B852 road, lies the Boleskine burial ground, the burial place of the Fraser Clan. There once stood a medieval church here, now long since disappeared, the only building remaining being a small mort-house. A mort-house was a mortuary where the coffined body would lay under guard until such time as it was of no use to body snatchers!

Originally posted by arizonascott They also stole and plagerized the orginal writer of the music they produced on their first works, like Stairway to Heaven. The original writer has come forward and has demanded compensation from their work.

It has been suggested that the song's introduction bears a close resemblance to the 1968 instrumental "Taurus" by the group Spirit.
In the liner notes to the 1996 reissue of Spirit's debut album, songwriter Randy California writes:
"People always ask me why "Stairway to Heaven" sounds exactly like "Taurus", which was released two years earlier. I know Led Zeppelin also played "Fresh Garbage" in their live set. They opened up for us on their first American tour."

Originally posted by autowrench
Well, old Crowley had a lot to do with the Montauk Project

"The house is a long low building. I set apart the south-western half for my work. The largest room has a bow window and here I made my door and constructed the terrace and lodge. In side the room I set up my oratory proper. This was a wooden structure, lined in part with the big mirrors which I brought from London." A.C.