That Led Zepplin Devil Worship Discussion, page 4
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reply posted on 17-12-2008 @ 09:45 AM by DarrylGalasso
reply to post by BlackOps719



I can not agree with that. Page although one of the greatest composers of our time was a terrible guitarist. He is sloppy, his phrasing is terrible and his licks are rather simplistic and once again in my opinion not very good at all. Next to Vinnie Vincent, he may very well be the worst technical guitarist I have ever heard. I never much cared for Zeppelin because of that fact. Even two finger Tony from Sabbath was in my opinion a better guitarist (although no where near the composer). When I was young and Zeppelin was popular I always wondered why someone who couldn't cleanly play the pentatonic scale (the most dominant scale in rock and roll by far) could be so popular. I saw Zeppelin twice and was not impressed either time. Plant also is a terrible vocalist live (thank God for studios).

As popular as Zeppelin was I am sure my post will not be popular, but that is how I personally feel and luckily for me opinions is one of the things they haven't outlawed yet in this country.


reply posted on 17-12-2008 @ 09:48 AM by asmeone2
reply to post by MajesticJax



Call the devil, and he may just show up....



reply posted on 17-12-2008 @ 09:59 AM by Primordial
reply to post by FlyersFan



Crowley went through many stages during his life and at points did perform rituals which involved spirits which could be considered demons or the devil but he also did rituals which involved calling on gods and angels to help and protect him. He didn't worship them, more like call on whichever one could best help in the particular situation.

Crowley is a little hard to get because he ran his mouth sometimes. He went through stages where he believed himself superior, then other times useless. Then there is that whole drug addict thing again.

If you actually read his teachings and rituals, he was more about trying to find the truth than worship. If he needed to call on the devil to get a piece of the puzzle, so be it.


reply posted on 17-12-2008 @ 10:01 AM by asmeone2
reply to post by Primordial



I beleive I've also read that he was a big practical joker, and that some of the "devil" references were an attempt to spite those who thought he actually was the spawn of Satan.


reply posted on 17-12-2008 @ 10:05 AM by FlyersFan
ROBERT PLANT

His official website displays nothing of the occult.
www.robertplant.com...

Rolling Stone Magazine talks about Plant believing in Psychic Phenomenon.

An interview with Plant reveals a sense of humor – or a slip of the tongue – or just a metaphorical statement -

It could be argued that the road down which Plant has travelled began at the house of Sonny Johnson, who, Plant claims, “was the original blues singer to sell his soul to the devil - he did it five years before Robert Johnson had even thought about it and 30 years before us guys from middle England decided to sell our souls to the junkman. He wasn’t as immediately exotic as Robert Johnson, who took the slinky bits from Son House and turned them into something quite sensual, but he did have a rabbit’s foot around his neck and a great dark style.”


“Let’s set up a feast for the photograph,” he says as we sit down by the dining table. “We’ll put some cutlery out, light some candles, then get Jimmy Page over and do a black mass.”


Robert Plant wrote the lyrics - after Page wrote the music – for Stairway to Heaven. This is the song that many folks say has Satanic verses when played backwards. It looks like Plant had some automatic writing taking place when he wrote the lyrics. It doesn’t look like he was looking for the writing – but that it just happened. Considering how they all played with the occult, I’m not surprised that something showed up.

“Robert described the ‘automatic’ nature of the lyric “I was just sitting there with Pagey in front of a fire at Headley Grange. Pagey had written the chords and played them for me. I was holding a paper and pencil, and for some reason, I was in a very bad mood. Then all of a sudden my hand was writing out words. ‘There’s a lady who’s sure, all that glitters is gold, and she’s buying a stairway to heaven.’ I just sat there and looked at the words and then I almost leaped out of my seat.” (Stephen Davis, Hammer of the Gods, p 164)

“He (Robert Plant) often remarked that he could feel his pen being pushed by some higher authority.” (Stephen Davis, Hammer of the Gods, p 262)

It should be noted that in most of the Led Zepplin = Devil Worshippers urban legends, Robert Plant is supposedly the only one of the band that did not sell his soul to the devil. (and I’m not sure how someone would actually go about doing that - does the devil have a little red phone in the underworld that rings when ever someone calls his name or something?)

This site is Christian and puts forth their argument as to why Led Zepplin is indeed a devil worshipping group. I am not endorsing their argument, but am posting for general information as to why some feel that the group is demonic.



reply posted on 17-12-2008 @ 10:07 AM by asmeone2
reply to post by DarrylGalasso



They were very sloppy live, that is true. Plus in the "later years" they were not really all together... a lot of substanc.e

But give them credit where it's due, they were very innovative in the studio. Half of their problem playing livke was having to condense a song of many tracks into 4 parts.

They were still talented, and at least quite dynamic to see on stage. Plus a lot of backstage antics. (Can we say, mudshark incident? :@@


reply posted on 17-12-2008 @ 11:04 AM by WatchNLearn
Is this an Urban Legend?

Let's look at the facts:

1. Imagine how impossible it would be to write coherent lyrics that were not complete gibberish so that they would say something else in reverse. Try it some time, and good luck.

2. Aleister Crowley was a complete nut job with no credibility what so ever.

3. The devil is made up - not true - not real

4. In
episode 3 season 3 of South Park it is obvious that the only way to banish a demon is to play it's favorite song backwards. So this means that every time someone plays Stairway to Heaven (about 4 million times a minute since every new guitarists learns it in the first month) the demon is banished. So it kind of nullifies the whole thing. So why would you bother going to all the trouble of coming up with lyrics that say something else in reverse.

5. The band deliberately created this "on the edge" image because it was good for record sales.

6. The band started (or at least encouraged) the reverse speech rumor because it was good for record sales.

So is it an Urban Legend? With the above facts in place, add a pinch of Occam's razor, and hey presto!

IT IS AN URBAN LEGEND!!

ps. I deliberately used South Park as a reference because I think it is just as valid as the Bible when it comes to justifying things like the devil and demons.


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