Hey guys, you've gone four days without deteriorating into a flame fest.

Do you need a ref to get between you and push you back into your corners before you break that streak?

As I stated at the beginning of this topic, this article is in no way an attempt by the MSM to undermine sites like ATS. As I have stated before this very topic has been mentioned by researchers in the field for years now. It is simply a fluff piece and nothing more. Even if a person that doesn't follow conspiracy theories saw fit to read this article I doubt they would even remember it after a few hours. It simply isn't interesting reading. I guarantee it has made more impact on the lives of the people who are bothering to discuss it on here than anyone else.

Where is the evidence, other than one news article, that there is an "imminent attack on ATS"?

Is the idea in itself not paranoid and delusional?

As I said before, they do this to create uproar in our little community so that they will receive massive amounts of hits on the website.

I just wanted to share my thoughts on this.

Yes, I do think some conspiracy websites cause you to be delusional. There are plenty of BS artists on the net out there. There are all kinds of them. Bloggers, the owner of www.obamacrimes.com, and plenty more.

So, in a sense these conspiracy websites do make people delusional.

Maybe not ATS, a discussion based website, but I would argue that certain conspiracy theory websites DO make one go crazy.

If you need any proof you should have seen me a few years ago. I wasn't really a pretty sight.

Originally posted by rapinbatsisaltherage
I don't think anyone said it better. This IS what they are trying to accomplish. At least now we know we ARE NOT a bunch of loons, or they wouldn't be attacking this site in the first place.

That's a really good point. I do not think they thought there was anything to worry about until they saw their ad revenue start to drop. Now they see how many people are really out here reading this stuff and they must be getting scared.

Originally posted by Xcalibur254
As I stated at the beginning of this topic, this article is in no way an attempt by the MSM to undermine sites like ATS. As I have stated before this very topic has been mentioned by researchers in the field for years now. It is simply a fluff piece and nothing more. Even if a person that doesn't follow conspiracy theories saw fit to read this article I doubt they would even remember it after a few hours. It simply isn't interesting reading. I guarantee it has made more impact on the lives of the people who are bothering to discuss it on here than anyone else.

Sorry, who made you the expert again?

I believe that would be your opinion, no?

After four days of dissecting the damn thing because I'm too stubborn to let go, I am more convinced now than ever that it is deliberate propaganda.

I recommend reading it with an eye toward what an unbiased report would say.

Oh, and the main guy who researches and publishes on this in the scholarly journals?

His conclusions are quite different from ABC's, and his name is not even mentioned in this piece.

Fluff can have an impact too.

Originally posted by Yoda411
Where is the evidence, other than one news article, that there is an "imminent attack on ATS"?

Is the idea in itself not paranoid and delusional?

As I said before, they do this to create uproar in our little community so that they will receive massive amounts of hits on the website.

That does sound a little paranoid and possibly delusional.

Originally posted by Yoda411
Where is the evidence, other than one news article, that there is an "imminent attack on ATS"?

After all that, you are asking where evidence is of something? Interesting. So when the story backs up an idea that sounds good to us, it does not need any research, facts, or sources. But when someone opens a thread discussing the result of that, you ask for evidence? I hope you all enjoy your thread. There has to be something better to read here.

This is something else we often overlook on this site.

We tend to want to bicker with anyone who's opinion differs from our own.

I would make a heavy wager there are people right now sitting in D.C. laughing so hard their federal reserve notes are bleeding green down their pant legs at this. Probably saying to each other such things as: "Look at these people, they spend so much time fighting amongst themselves they have no clue what we're doing to them right now." or "These people will never be able to unite against us, they hate each other too badly." or "Don't tell me propaganda doesn't work in America Dick (Cheney), now pay up."

I got some bad news for all of us.....

United we stand, divided we fall.

We are being used as pawns against each other, gays vs. straights, men vs. women, blacks vs. whites, dogs vs. cats. So long as we maintain this stance we lose. Our power is in our unity. The government greatly fears this and that is why they have so many people on their payroll that's sole purpose is to drive wedges into society and keep us divided. The sad part is that we are playing the roles written for us as if we were vying for an academy award.

Here is where our power lies, money. Our government is a cash consuming machine. We cannot just not pay taxes, we will be in the clink. What we can do; however, is organize a no work day to get their attention, if that does not work we can organize a no work week. This will get their attention to the tune of between 10-70 billion dollars, also if we do not spend at all during that time, we will also incorporate the help of many business as they also depend on our federal reserve notes for survival.

Will this hurt us? Absolutely; however we must remember 2 things, 1) it will hurt them worse. and 2) if you have an abscessed tooth and you do nothing the pain is long term and worsens with time, in fact it can eventually cause death; however, if you go to the dentist and have it removed, it hurts pretty bad for a day or two then the pain is gone permanently. Our government has become an abscessed tooth people, it is time to have that tooth fixed.

Also I would find it extremely difficult for employers to fire 100 million people or so for taking this time off, if it were a coordinated effort with a very large participation, I can pretty much guarantee it would work.

[edit on 12/17/2008 by DarrylGalasso]

Originally posted by Spiramirabilis
and worry instead about why the article

not if it's valid - but, why is it at all?

we're weird, we're here - get used to it

so, why the article?

That's all I'm sayin. Just more tersely.