Pakistan Will Be Defended At All Costs! - Following Thread

MY FOLLOWING THREAD

I will open my following thread for situation in and around Pakistan... I have very bad feeling about this; after Mumbai attacks, and when Afghanistan Forces loose their supply lines from Pakistan, I see now very great danger facing Pakistan, and its people in coming times.

To follow the events in time line, I want to open thread which follows those growing tensions in Pakistan. Other wise we will easily forget the path to the present day, and its news...

I have a very good friend, beutiful princess from Pakistan, who is there today, giving hopefully also inside information from there, and spending Christmas vacations with her family... That makes situation over there much more personal, and gives me daily worry too!


OPENING NEWS!

Pakistan will be defended at all costs says Gilani

Tuesday, December 16, 2008

ISLAMABAD: Striking a tough posture, Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani said that Pakistan condemns terrorism in all its forms, but if a war is “imposed on Pakistan” the country would be defended “at all costs”.

Addressing the National Assembly here Monday, Gilani said, “I pay tribute to the political leadership who expressed deep insight over the recent prevalent issue, and got united.”

He said Pakistan “condemns terrorism and extremism in all its forms and manifestations, however, if India tries to carry out its designs against Pakistan, it would be defended at all costs.”

www.thenews.com.pk...

- I already open a thread concerning supply routes yesterday, I post news from there to here too >


NEWS BEFORE

Truckers stop Nato supplies
www.thenews.com.pk...

Nato hard at work making deals to beat the Khyber Pass convoy trap
www.timesonline.co.uk...

Taliban take hold of vital road
www.theglobeandmail.com...

Pakistan hauliers refuse to take supplies to Afghanistan
www.google.com...


MAP FROM AREA

Time to time, its good to take a look to regions geopolitical placements...




Ok, now its open... Your comments and posts are welcome!

Here's some info about the corrupt crook in Pakistan President Zadari:

en.wikipedia.org...

The current Pak Government is in US pockets so there will be absolutely no defence of the country whatsoever if bad times fall. The miltary, weapons, infrastructure will be deconstructed to give way for invading forces.

Unless there is a change in government and people pull together, Pakistan is ripe for raping militarily and by other means.

It is also unclear whether their nuclear detterence still remains or if they have already been deconstructed by the puppet powers that be...

Pakistan is headed to disaster without a doubt and the PEOPLE of the country need to take control.

Players against Pakistan include US, Russia, India, Israel, UK. Players FOR Pakistan are no-one (not even China). So the time may be ideal for it's decimation.


[edit on 16-12-2008 by Jinni]

Again those pretexts for war...

Terrorists in Pakistan planning over 20 attacks on Britain, says Gordon Brown

The Prime Minister named Pakistan as a haven for terrorists planning attacks in Britain, revealing that around three quarters of the most advanced plots monitored by MI5 are have Pakistani links.

"The time has come for action not words," Mr Brown told Mr Zardari.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

 


Who the hell believes in G. Brown and his associates anyway!?

Those were the gangsters that were feeding the world that Iraq has WMD and attack is imminent.

UK politician opinions and accusations count for absolutely zero. In fact, if you want to have some understanding of truth just invert everything these guys say.

But I see your point - they are definetely scare mongering again - perhaps in anticpation of a major event? i.e. Invasion

[edit on 16-12-2008 by Jinni]


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[edit on 20-12-2008 by 12m8keall2c]

Something good... From Iran.

'India not preparing for Pakistan attack'

India has denied reports that it is preparing for a military strike against Pakistan in the aftermath of the Mumbai terror attacks. "We are not planning any military action, but at the same time unless Pakistan takes action against those terrorists who are operating from their soil against India and also against all those who are behind this Mumbai terrorist attack, things will not be normal," Federal Defense Minister AK Antony said.

www.presstv.ir...

- Yes I hope so!

 




It's on BBC too:

news.bbc.co.uk...




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Boys and girls, lets not delude ourselves.

India has a "FAR" supior; air force / navy/ army, both in terms of numbers as well as quality of equipment.

Basically, Pakistan could not hope to stop India with conventional weapons.

That is important enough to repeat.

Pakistan cannot defend itself from India with conventional weapons.

If India makes a full scale attack/invasion, the only thing Pakistan could do is nuke em.

Problem is India has more, better, nuclear weapons.

Originally posted by mrmonsoon
If India makes a full scale attack/invasion, the only thing Pakistan could do is nuke em.

Problem is India has more, better, nuclear weapons.

If there is a nuclear exchange, there will be no winners. And that goes for the region too. How will China react when a dense cloud of fallout from an Indian strike on Pakistan drifts over their cities, killing Chinese citizens?

Can you say, "act of war." China will defend itself, and it may escalate further from there.

China may not be happy about it, but they won't launch nukes themselves.

Think about it, if they don't like the radiation cloud caused by India/pakistani nuclear weapons, I doubt they would like the radiation clouds from "THEIRT" own nuclear weapons.

Pakistani Opposition Party to Start Blocking NATO Supplies to Afghanistan

Over a week of attacks by Peshawar-area militants on NATO vehicles and supply containers was already having a noticeable impact on the ability to ship supplies across the Khyber Pass, through which three-quarters of supplies for the international military operation reach Afghanistan. And while NATO insists that “for the moment the supplies are passing,” one of Pakistan’s oldest political parties may soon put a stop to that.

news.antiwar.com...

Pakistan, China agree to boost military ties

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan and China on Monday signed an agreement for military co-operation with a view to taking their bilateral military ties to new heights.

The accord was signed in Beijing by Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee Chairman General Tariq Majid and Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA) Chief of General Staff Chen Bingde at the conclusion of the sixth round of the Pakistan-China defence and security talks.

The two sides also exchanged views on the international security situation and issues concerning bilateral and military relations.

www.dailytimes.com.pk...\12\16\story_16-12-2008_pg7_33


Zionist warmongers...

- Messing with Pakistan, China

- Messing with Iran, Russia

- Messing with both - WW III.


India keeps up pressure, puts peace process with Pak on hold

17 Dec 2008, 0024 hrs IST, TNN

SRINAGAR: India on Tuesday kept up the pressure on Pakistan with foreign minister Pranab Mukherjee stating that the composite dialogue process had been paused in the aftermath of the Mumbai attacks even as Pakistani President Asif Zardari again ruled out handing over any terror suspects.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com...


US vows to keep pressure on Pakistan

The US rejects Pakistan's claims that Jamaat-ud-Dawa, a group allegedly involved in the Mumbai terror attacks, is a charitable organization.

US Secretary of Sate Condoleezza Rice told reporters Wednesday at the UN Headquarters in New York that Pakistan will have to adhere to the UN Security Council's ban on the group - an affiliate to Lashkar-e-Taiba blamed by India for attacks on the country's financial and cultural hub.

www.presstv.ir...

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India obliged to consider all options

NEW DELHI: India on Friday hinted that Islamabad had ‘failed’ to deliver on promises of not supporting terrorism, and said it was “obliged to consider the entire range of options that exist” – with a plan to approach the United Nations Security Council once again under consideration in the aftermath of the Mumbai terror attacks.

“If a country cannot keep the assurances that it has given ... it obliges us to consider the entire range of options that exist to protect our interests and people from this menace (terrorism),” said External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee without naming Islamabad.


In his message to an international conference – Mukherjee said although Pakistan had been giving assurances, Indian appeals had been ignored. Mukherjee said the Mumbai attacks “reflect the extent to which the terrorists have spread their network in the neighbouring country”.

He also hinted that Pakistani agencies may have ‘assisted the Mumbai terrorists’. Mukherjee noted that ‘multiple centres of power’ had emerged in Pakistan.

dailytimes.com.pk...\12\20\story_20-12-2008_pg1_1


Report: India may attack Pakistan

Indian military has prepared operations against targets in Pakistan and awaits the signal to go forward, a US intelligence report says.

"These most likely would take the form of unilateral precision strikes inside Pakistan-administered Kashmir, along with special forces action on the ground in Pakistan proper," Global Intelligence Service, Stratfor said in its latest report.

www.presstv.ir...

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It is time to split Pakistan into four saprate independnt states for the world peace.These four states, after disintegration of Pakistan, must be kept under UN administration, WHICH WILL NOT HAVE ANY MILITARY/NUCLEAR WEAPON BUILD UP FACILITY.
Delay is dangerous.It must do soon.
Once nuclear weapons and technology are fall in hands of terrorist or other countries like Libya/Sudan or Congo or Somalia, only god can save this planet.Planet Earth is important that Pakistan.
Pakistan is gangrin on this Planet and needs surgery.
India/US/Russia/Isreal /NATO-EU /JAP & ANZ must collectively take action.

War is around the corner...cant wait.....

Terror finger points at Pak army

New Delhi, Dec. 20: The Centre is now viewing the Mumbai attacks as the direct handiwork of Pakistan’s military that trained and armed the militants and planned the strike in detail, top government sources are saying.

This is a shift from India’s initial response when foreign minister Pranab Mukherjee led the government in drawing a distinction at two levels — first, between the government in Islamabad and rabid “elements in Pakistan” and, second, between the civilian administration led by Asif Zardari and the military led by Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani.

www.telegraphindia.com...


India gets set to mount diplomatic offensive on Pak

Armed with sufficient material on the terror attacks in Mumbai to nail Pakistan, India will mount a diplomatic offensive from Monday by convening a two-day closed door meeting in New Delhi [Images] with the heads of all foreign countries' missions in the national capital as part of strategy to get Pakistan declared as a 'terrorist State'.

ia.rediff.com...

Originally posted by Jinni


Pakistan is headed to disaster without a doubt and the PEOPLE of the country need to take control.




[edit on 16-12-2008 by Jinni]

Taking over by the people means more islamic extremism. In some regions, the ''people'' is already in control and look what's happening. More attack on coalition forces across the border, more attack on Pak forces inside Pakistan. More destabilisation.

A people take-over in Pakistan would equal disaster and destabilize the whole region. We are better off with the lesser evil.

Pakistan militants 'world threat'

Militant groups in Pakistan are "the greatest danger to peace and security in the entire world", India's foreign minister has said.

Pranab Mukherjee accused Islamabad of "denial" and "shifting the blame" for last month's deadly Mumbai attacks.

He said the international community had not done enough to exert pressure on Pakistan, which denies any involvement.

news.bbc.co.uk...


Defiant Pakistan says prepared to fight war

Islamabad, Dec 22: Reacting to the two-day high level meet held in India on Monday to discuss on the steps taken by Pakistan against the Mumbai terror attack, distressed Pak Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi said, “Pakistan defence forces and armed forces are ready to face any challenge as Pak has the full right to defend itself”.

www.zeenews.com...

[edit on 22-12-2008 by JanusFIN]

Originally posted by JanusFIN
Pakistan militants 'world threat'

Militant groups in Pakistan are "the greatest danger to peace and security in the entire world", India's foreign minister has said.

Pranab Mukherjee accused Islamabad of "denial" and "shifting the blame" for last month's deadly Mumbai attacks.

He said the international community had not done enough to exert pressure on Pakistan, which denies any involvement.

news.bbc.co.uk...

Funny, I don't see the Pakistani's invading Iraq, or other countries on false pretexts resulting in the deaths\murder\genocide of hundreds of thousands of people (if not, millions).

The US, UK and Israel governments are the biggest threat to world peace and they haven't just threatened. They are murdering right now as we speak.

First Iraq, then Afghanis, then Taliban, then Iranians, then Pakistanis - see a pattern here?

Pakistani's!? Yeah, right! and Iraq has WMDs. Whoever, gives their statements any credibility at all need a serious head check!

BBC? - number 1 conspirator and mass public brainwasher, perpetrators of disinfo.

P.S. US and India are speaking the same 'language' now.

[edit on 22-12-2008 by Jinni]

Pakistan scrambles fighter jets over major cities

December 22, 2008 17:55 IST Pakistan scrambled fighter jets over several major cities on Monday, including the federal capital, as it said it had stepped up "vigilance" in view of the "current environment".

The aircraft roared over Islamabad, the nearby garrison city of Rawalpindi and other cities this afternoon as Air Force spokesman Air Commodore Humayun Viqar Zephyr said in a statement: "in view of the current environment, PAF has enhanced its vigilance."

www.rediff.com...

AIR FORCE INFORMATION:

en.wikipedia.org...

[edit on 22-12-2008 by JanusFIN]

"India FM: We will act on Mumbai if Pakistan won't"

"NEW DELHI – Pakistan is shifting blame and responsibility for last month's deadly attacks in Mumbai, India's foreign minister charged Monday, adding that Delhi would take action against the perpetrators if Islamabad failed to.
India also gave Pakistan a letter written by Mohammed Ajmal Kasab, the only gunman captured after the rampage. Kasab wrote that he and the nine other gunmen involved in the Nov. 26 attack all came from Pakistan, India's Foreign Ministry said. He also requested a meeting with Pakistani envoys, the ministry said."
Yahoo News

Ok, now what?

Either Pakistan did it in which case, it gets what's coming to it;
OR
This is a muslium terrorist attempt to take the government of Pakistan by saying it was them when it was not.
Payback for cracking down on the terrorists/allowing/doing nothing about the US taking out the terrorists.