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reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 02:19 PM by centurion1211
reply to post by maybereal11


I'll give you a little bit of a pass, since you haven't been here to listen to and be on the receiving end of all that demo/lib "love" as long as I have. Do some searches, you'll see what I mean. You might even notice that I've also done my fair share of criticizing Bush for failed policies.

In the meantime, trying to hide behind that "saying all demo/libs is unfair" rhetoric is just like the people that say the same thing about radical muslims. There is a group of demo/libs here on ATS that savagely attacked Bush from the moment he was nominated, and did not let up while he was in office. Now, some (not all) of those same members are starting to whine about the treatment obama is getting. That's where the deny hypocrisy statement comes from. Do yourself a big favor and don't join their club ...



reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 02:50 PM by Yoda411
reply to post by Alxandro


Let's say for your side of the argument that President-Elect Obama knew the Rod Blagojevich was selling the seat to the highest bidder.

If you were president-elect (have not yet been sworn in as President), and you had a hunch that Blagojevich was attempting to sell the Senate seat, what would you do?

Try to expose Gov. Blagojevich? What if Obama had no proof that Blagojevich was doing this? Should Obama have tried tricking the Gov. into making statements on a recorded phone call? Would that not cause Washington Insiders to question their own trust for the newly elected president?

An additional question to be raised is, do you people really believe Obama would have benefited from this corruption had it gone unnoticed?

The truth of the matter is that Blagojevich would never have told Obama about this. If you were selling crack, and had a friend who was the town's Sheriff, would you tell the Sheriff that your selling crack?

Anyone who believes Obama knew is making the presumption Obama has the time to sit around investigating state-level Governors, while awaiting his highly anticipated position at the very top of the federal-level Government.

Can you honestly say that you think Obama is sitting at home watching television all day before taking seat as President of the world's largest super power? There is much work to be done from the moment he was officially elected if he plans to successfully initiate the hoards of causes he has promised Americans.

If you disagree with his policies I am happy for you, you have the right to your own opinion and that is what makes this country GREAT. With that said, if you are letting your disagreements with his policies create assumptions and false connections to Blagojevich's failed attempt at corruption I would like to invite you to re-think this statement.

The video was created by republicans making a false link between corruption in 2008 (soon to be 2009) with a video from 2002, before Obama was even a Senator (Won the Senate race in 2004).

While many here will bash republicans at any given opportunity, even republicans should take a moment and realize they are being fed garbage. It is the same "solid evidence" that was provided by the McCain campaign in attempt to label Obama as a terrorist.


reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 03:03 PM by greeneyedleo
reply to post by Yoda411


Since dooper made such a great post with everything all condensed into one easy read....I too will quote him and ask you:

Do you really think Obama is clean or do you think he is a complete idiot or do you think Obama can do no wrong no matter what? Cause with this [growing] list, Id be quite concerned about supporting him - no matter what the answer is......


Originally posted by dooper

Why would anyone question Obama?

He sat in a church with a racists radical preacher "Reverand" Wright for only 20 years, and had no idea that he was preaching hatred for whites, following the writings of James Cone, author of Black Theology and Black Power.

He kicked off his early political career with a "coming out" party in 1995 in the home of two radical homegrown bombers, Ayers and Dohrn, but had no idea of their past.

Represented ACORN and had no idea that it was conducting voter fraud.

Sweetheart land deals and significant political contributions from Rezco, and that's not over yet, but Obama had no idea this man was a crook. Now a convicted felon.

Al Mansour, a Muslim financier who helped Obama financially while at Harvard, but Obama was unaware or unconcerned of his background.

This can't be Obama's fault.

He's the President-elect. He had no idea!

In fact, this side of Federal penitentiaries, this is the most know-nothing SOB I've ever seen in my life.



I think Obama is a complete crook and liar and can not be trusted. His words mean nothing. He speaks what others tell him to speak. If that wasnt the case, then he would have to be the dumbest man alive. Either way. I see nothing in him, his character, his past and now his present that deserves support nor the position that was planned for him to have.


With that said. He better do a good job and live up to the marketing of himself, because Im holding on to an ounce of HOPE for the sake of my country.

[edit on 12/16/2008 by greeneyedleo]


reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 03:18 PM by kozmo
reply to post by tsloan


That's EXACTLY what I've been trying to say for about 20 years!!!

My point is that there are all of the democrats pointing at Obama and claiming that politics are going to be "different" because of him. NO, they won't!
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